Covid Vaccine Destroys Natural Immunity, NEJM Study Shows

At this stage I am not at all sure how those supporting and defending the vaccines can do so with a clear conscience.

It doesn’t seem to matter how overwhelming the evidence, they just robotically continue the same rhetoric.

It’s fine, we know. You know we know.

The truth is leaking out, just like the leaky vaccine. You know we know that too, and we know that you know it.

originally posted by: ARM1968
At this stage I am not at all sure how those supporting and defending the vaccines can do so with a clear conscience.

It doesn’t seem to matter how overwhelming the evidence, they just robotically continue the same rhetoric.

It’s fine, we know. You know we know.

The truth is leaking out, just like the leaky vaccine. You know we know that too, and we know that you know it.

Is it possible that they can't actually "see" from the shots?

vaxed rejecting corneas

originally posted by: GoShredAK
I always say when in doubt inject yourself with an experimental drug repeatedly.

To insure your immune system is as weak as possible, sanitize your hands many times @ day, avoid crowds, and wear a mask as much as possible.

You are guaranteed to become sicker than the general (normal) population.

palexander.substack.com...

All this to say that something is terribly wrong here and it appears that the COVID gene injection vaccine (mRNA Pfizer platform) is harming the COVID recovered natural immunity as seen in this cohort of children. Does the COVID gene injection subvert the entire immune system or only for glycosylated virus pathogen? Or only for COVID virus?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: and14263
Here is data to support the argument that the vaccine lowers immune system effectiveness and in a literal definition gives you AIDS

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A site pushing HIV denial is definitely the go to place for medical advice...

First of all, Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome is not contagious. But many people it is because of its association with the alleged HIV virus. But AIDS isn’t HIV, and HIV isn’t AIDS. They are two completely different things, it just so happens that AIDS can allegedly result as a complication of long term HIV infection.

Forget the site - look at the source data.

It really is that simple unless you are trying to use a logical fallacy to push your argument.

That would be weak.

originally posted by: and14263

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: and14263
Here is data to support the argument that the vaccine lowers immune system effectiveness and in a literal definition gives you AIDS

Link

A site pushing HIV denial is definitely the go to place for medical advice...

First of all, Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome is not contagious. But many people it is because of its association with the alleged HIV virus. But AIDS isn’t HIV, and HIV isn’t AIDS. They are two completely different things, it just so happens that AIDS can allegedly result as a complication of long term HIV infection.

Forget the site - look at the source data.

It really is that simple unless you are trying to use a logical fallacy to push your argument.

That would be weak.

The source data makes no reference to AIDs its entirely an interpretation of the article.

So the credibility of the site is relevant.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: and14263

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: and14263
Here is data to support the argument that the vaccine lowers immune system effectiveness and in a literal definition gives you AIDS

Link

A site pushing HIV denial is definitely the go to place for medical advice...

First of all, Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome is not contagious. But many people it is because of its association with the alleged HIV virus. But AIDS isn’t HIV, and HIV isn’t AIDS. They are two completely different things, it just so happens that AIDS can allegedly result as a complication of long term HIV infection.

Forget the site - look at the source data.

It really is that simple unless you are trying to use a logical fallacy to push your argument.

That would be weak.

The source data makes no reference to AIDs its entirely an interpretation of the article.

So the credibility of the site is relevant.

The data indicates immune deficiency as a result of the vaccine (correlation).

An immune deficiency that is acquired.

Surely to God I you don't need that spelling out to you?

The data is official UK Gov and ONS data but you attack the website which is not the source.

You fail badly in both respects - recognising what AIDS is and refuting an argument/point of view.

It's embarrassing for you. I don't usually waste my time with people who are entrenched in cognitive dissonance so deeply that they use logical fallacy after logical fallacy on a public forum.

Anyway, have a good evening. You stick to your truths I'll stick to mine.

originally posted by: and14263

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: and14263

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: and14263
Here is data to support the argument that the vaccine lowers immune system effectiveness and in a literal definition gives you AIDS

Link

A site pushing HIV denial is definitely the go to place for medical advice...

First of all, Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome is not contagious. But many people it is because of its association with the alleged HIV virus. But AIDS isn’t HIV, and HIV isn’t AIDS. They are two completely different things, it just so happens that AIDS can allegedly result as a complication of long term HIV infection.

Forget the site - look at the source data.

It really is that simple unless you are trying to use a logical fallacy to push your argument.

That would be weak.

The source data makes no reference to AIDs its entirely an interpretation of the article.

So the credibility of the site is relevant.

The data indicates immune deficiency as a result of the vaccine (correlation).

An immune deficiency that is acquired.

Surely to God I you don't need that spelling out to you?

The data is official UK Gov and ONS data but you attack the website which is not the source.

You fail badly in both respects - recognising what AIDS is and refuting an argument/point of view.

It's embarrassing for you. I don't usually waste my time with people who are entrenched in cognitive dissonance so deeply that they use logical fallacy after logical fallacy on a public forum.

Anyway, have a good evening. You stick to your truths I'll stick to mine.

Only it doesn't.

AIDS is a specific medical condition caused by HIV.

What's embarrassing to be in 22 and still repeating HIV denial.

SPAM

originally posted by: ARM1968
At this stage I am not at all sure how those supporting and defending the vaccines can do so with a clear conscience.

It doesn’t seem to matter how overwhelming the evidence, they just robotically continue the same rhetoric.

It’s fine, we know. You know we know.

The truth is leaking out, just like the leaky vaccine. You know we know that too, and we know that you know it.

And yet nobody can present this evidence, only doom porn that claimed we'd be knee deep in corpses by now.

Sources in my signature debunk claims that the vax is ineffective. The fact that countries with 80 plus percent of adults vaxed and no corpse mountains exist debunks the rest.

a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

You're a hero.

a reply to: and14263

The data is official UK Gov and ONS data but you attack the website which is not the source.

The problem isn't the data, it's the way that it's being misrepresented.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Somewhat fallacious to say that because there aren't piles of bodies in the streets that the vaxxines aren't causing problems.

The EU is now at 16% excess mortality over the average of the four years prior to covid, 2016-2019. The EU had approximately 53k excess non covid deaths in july alone. 53k bodies makes a pretty big pile. x12, 636,000 bodies in the next year in the EU alone if the trend continues. Not to mention it is trending up, right now it's the highest it has ever been, and climbing.

Now extrapolate that to worldwide, and you have a couple million excess deaths over the next year. How big of a pile of bodies would that be?? I'd say you'd have your mountain.

originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Somewhat fallacious to say that because there aren't piles of bodies in the streets that the vaxxines aren't causing problems.

The EU is now at 16% excess mortality over the average of the four years prior to covid, 2016-2019. The EU had approximately 53k excess non covid deaths in july alone. 53k bodies makes a pretty big pile. x12, 636,000 bodies in the next year in the EU alone if the trend continues. Not to mention it is trending up, right now it's the highest it has ever been, and climbing.

Now extrapolate that to worldwide, and you have a couple million excess deaths over the next year. How big of a pile of bodies would that be?? I'd say you'd have your mountain.

First of all, source for literally everything that you've just said. If your going to throw numbers around then you really do need to show us where you got them from so that we can respond directly.

Secondly, this trend actually began before covid and its primary cause is rising levels of poverty since the 2008 economic crisis. In particular, men under the age of 50 dying due to heart disease, drug and alcohol abuse, and diabetes.

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Third, a lot of those deaths are actually due to people with comorbidity who catch covid, survive covid, but die from their comorbidity due to covid having messed them up. You'll see quite a few heart and lung disease cases in there, as well as complications from diabetes and renal failure.

We know that the vax isn't causing it because the groups who are effected the most are people from poor minority communities, who happen to be among the least vaxxed in the countries that are being effected due to long standing suspicion of vaxxing in their home countries.

Old white people are the least effected and the most vaxxed, middle aged minorities are the most effected and are among the least vaxxed.

We also know that the vax isn't responsible because, as stated above, these trends started before covid.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

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Doesn't seem to be any mention of people dying from being poor.

originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: AaarghZombies

www.youtube.com...

Doesn't seem to be any mention of people dying from being poor.

Have you seen his past videos, there's a certain ... trend going on in the.

The fact of the matter is that when you look at the curve of deaths you will see that it's simply a continuation of a much longer trend that began before the pandemic started and that things have been exasperated due to the fact that covid has a disproportionate effect on people who are obese or who have diabetes. Which also both disproportionately effect the poor.

Ask yourself this, is the vax is the main cause why are minorities from sub-Saharan Africa and Pakistan disproportionately affected, and disproportionately unvaxxed?

Surely the people who would be most effected would be middle class white seniors, who are the most vaxxed?

a reply to: AaarghZombies

If you watched the video, you would see that he shares an infographic showing excess mortality by country. You will be surprised to learn that the countries with the highest percentage of vaccinations have the highest numbers of excess deaths.

a reply to: MaxxAction
Could you post the links from below the video?

a reply to: Itisnowagain


www.ons.gov.uk... nding2september2022

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originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: AaarghZombies

If you watched the video, you would see that he shares an infographic showing excess mortality by country. You will be surprised to learn that the countries with the highest percentage of vaccinations have the highest numbers of excess deaths.

I won't be surprised at all but you'll kick yourself when you realize why this is.

Put simply, the reason that the deaths are higher is the same reason that the vax rates are higher. These places have a higher percentage of population with comorbidity. So their governments pushed the vax more.

Or, to put it another way, you're not seeing people being killed in high vax areas, you're seeing high vax rates in areas where people are most likely to die.

Just take a look at the same areas on a graph of deprivation, heart disease, renal failure, lung disease, hypertension, and obesity, or by all of the above comorbidity and age.