Covid Vaccine Destroys Natural Immunity, NEJM Study Shows

The Daily Sceptic

A new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) shows not only that the effectiveness of the Pfizer Covid vaccine becomes negative (meaning the vaccinated are more likely to be infected than the unvaccinated) within five months but that the vaccine destroys any protection a person has from natural immunity.

New England Journal of Medicine Study

This news does not bode well for those who have taken the Pfizer shots. A lot of people have been lied to and the consequences of this are yet to be realized. The truth is finally starting to trickle out. When the floodgates open, there will be hell to pay.

a reply to: LunaticPandora

What is this 'New England Journal of Medicine' you speak of?
It sounds like some quack fake news site.

originally posted by: LunaticPandora
The Daily Sceptic

A new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) shows not only that the effectiveness of the Pfizer Covid vaccine becomes negative (meaning the vaccinated are more likely to be infected than the unvaccinated) within five months but that the vaccine destroys any protection a person has from natural immunity.

New England Journal of Medicine Study

This news does not bode well for those who have taken the Pfizer shots. A lot of people have been lied to and the consequences of this are yet to be realized. The truth is finally starting to trickle out. When the floodgates open, there will be hell to pay.

No that can't be right!

originally posted by: LunaticPandora
The Daily Sceptic

A new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) shows not only that the effectiveness of the Pfizer Covid vaccine becomes negative (meaning the vaccinated are more likely to be infected than the unvaccinated) within five months but that the vaccine destroys any protection a person has from natural immunity.

New England Journal of Medicine Study

This news does not bode well for those who have taken the Pfizer shots. A lot of people have been lied to and the consequences of this are yet to be realized. The truth is finally starting to trickle out. When the floodgates open, there will be hell to pay.

Somebody (the author of the first article) MIGHT want to go back over that NEJM article again.

So. Here's the NEJM article you linked

And here's some direct quotes from the article -- should note that what the document is, is a "letter to the editor" and not an actual paper (different standards, here.)

The effectiveness of the vaccine alone was higher among previously infected children than among previously uninfected children.

So, protects those who've been sick with Covid before. Nothing about "destroying immunity."

The rapid decline in protection against omicron infection that was conferred by vaccination and previous infection provides support for booster vaccination.

A total of 15 hospitalizations and no known deaths were noted among the 273,157 vaccinated children (Table S1)

The sad statistic here is that there were 309 hospitalizations total (so 15 were vaccinated and 294 weren't) and of the 7 deaths, all were unvaccinated children.

So the letter doesn't say what the author of your article claims... in fact, it's making the opposite statement. But you can see for yourself -- the NEJM letter that you linked and I just re-linked is free to read and is relatively short and free of jargon.


ALWAYS check the sources for an article and be sure it says what the author of any report is claiming.

originally posted by: TWS1969

originally posted by: LunaticPandora
The Daily Sceptic

A new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) shows not only that the effectiveness of the Pfizer Covid vaccine becomes negative (meaning the vaccinated are more likely to be infected than the unvaccinated) within five months but that the vaccine destroys any protection a person has from natural immunity.

New England Journal of Medicine Study

This news does not bode well for those who have taken the Pfizer shots. A lot of people have been lied to and the consequences of this are yet to be realized. The truth is finally starting to trickle out. When the floodgates open, there will be hell to pay.

No that can't be right!

You are correct. That wasn't right. And you can go read the original letter in the NEJM and see for yourself.

I’ll wait for this to be published on bitchute or some other platform that I trust. Maybe even rumble, we’ll see. Until then, I’ll keep on driving town to town and getting boosters every day.

a reply to: Byrd

Charts C and D suggest that it is the vaccine that is causing this worrying erasure of natural immunity. Chart D shows the effectiveness of natural immunity from previous infection among the vaccinated. Notice that the blue line, which is protection against the Delta variant among the vaccinated-and-previously-infected, hits zero at a steep gradient within seven months. Now look at the blue line in chart C, which is protection against Delta in the previously infected and unvaccinated. It, too, is waning, but much more slowly, and after eight months it is still very much in positive territory at over 50%. The same can be said for natural immunity against earlier variants (green line), which wanes slowly and remains positive after 16 months. Why is natural immunity remaining protective for the unvaccinated, whereas in the vaccinated their ‘protection’ goes negative even if they have natural immunity?

From the article.

Maybe don't ignore those charts.

Here is data to support the argument that the vaccine lowers immune system effectiveness and in a literal definition gives you AIDS

Link

I always say when in doubt inject yourself with an experimental drug repeatedly.

a reply to: GoShredAK

I know, right??

I really gotta go to Disney World in France and I'm not going to miss it, so extra extra boosters all around!!

I mean like, what would Mickey do?

Cue the 'This study does not mean what you think it means' crowd a reply to: LunaticPandora

Sorry I was too late lol

a reply to: chris_stibrany

originally posted by: and14263
Here is data to support the argument that the vaccine lowers immune system effectiveness and in a literal definition gives you AIDS

Link

A site pushing HIV denial is definitely the go to place for medical advice...

First of all, Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome is not contagious. But many people it is because of its association with the alleged HIV virus. But AIDS isn’t HIV, and HIV isn’t AIDS. They are two completely different things, it just so happens that AIDS can allegedly result as a complication of long term HIV infection.

We'll have to see how this plays out in the years to come. I'm uncertain whether they want to destroy natural immunity so they can sell their own created immunity and a program to sell it for life to live.

originally posted by: LunaticPandora
a reply to: Byrd

Charts C and D suggest that it is the vaccine that is causing this worrying erasure of natural immunity. Chart D shows the effectiveness of natural immunity from previous infection among the vaccinated. Notice that the blue line, which is protection against the Delta variant among the vaccinated-and-previously-infected, hits zero at a steep gradient within seven months. Now look at the blue line in chart C, which is protection against Delta in the previously infected and unvaccinated. It, too, is waning, but much more slowly, and after eight months it is still very much in positive territory at over 50%. The same can be said for natural immunity against earlier variants (green line), which wanes slowly and remains positive after 16 months. Why is natural immunity remaining protective for the unvaccinated, whereas in the vaccinated their ‘protection’ goes negative even if they have natural immunity?

From the article.

Maybe don't ignore those charts.

Maybe you should go back and check your maths and stats textbooks, that line doesn't actually mean that you have less immunity than zero, if it did there is no way that this article would be allowed to be printed without mentioning it.

Plus, you'd see far more than 15 seriously sick kids.

originally posted by: chris_stibrany
Cue the 'This study does not mean what you think it means' crowd a reply to: LunaticPandora

If VAIDS were real do you really think that an article would show a chart that apparently confirmed it, and yet not include any comment on it?

If VAIDS were real and the people were involved in some big conspiracy to cover it up they'd have altered the chart to hid it.

If VAIDS were real and the people involved weren't part of some big conspiracy they'd make a big deal out of it, because it would be a big deal.

The fact that neither of these are true means exactly that this chart doesn't mean what you think it means.

originally posted by: TamtammyMacx
We'll have to see how this plays out in the years to come. I'm uncertain whether they want to destroy natural immunity so they can sell their own created immunity and a program to sell it for life to live.

One of the first groups to be vaxxed were AIDS patient.

This group is extensively monitored, and their health is regularly recorded. If there were such a thing as VAIDS they'd be among the first to die, there would be activists screaming in your ear about it.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: LunaticPandora
The Daily Sceptic

A new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) shows not only that the effectiveness of the Pfizer Covid vaccine becomes negative (meaning the vaccinated are more likely to be infected than the unvaccinated) within five months but that the vaccine destroys any protection a person has from natural immunity.

New England Journal of Medicine Study

This news does not bode well for those who have taken the Pfizer shots. A lot of people have been lied to and the consequences of this are yet to be realized. The truth is finally starting to trickle out. When the floodgates open, there will be hell to pay.

Somebody (the author of the first article) MIGHT want to go back over that NEJM article again.

So. Here's the NEJM article you linked

And here's some direct quotes from the article -- should note that what the document is, is a "letter to the editor" and not an actual paper (different standards, here.)

The effectiveness of the vaccine alone was higher among previously infected children than among previously uninfected children.

So, protects those who've been sick with Covid before. Nothing about "destroying immunity."

The rapid decline in protection against omicron infection that was conferred by vaccination and previous infection provides support for booster vaccination.

A total of 15 hospitalizations and no known deaths were noted among the 273,157 vaccinated children (Table S1)

The sad statistic here is that there were 309 hospitalizations total (so 15 were vaccinated and 294 weren't) and of the 7 deaths, all were unvaccinated children.

So the letter doesn't say what the author of your article claims... in fact, it's making the opposite statement. But you can see for yourself -- the NEJM letter that you linked and I just re-linked is free to read and is relatively short and free of jargon.


ALWAYS check the sources for an article and be sure it says what the author of any report is claiming.

You should follow your own advice and have a look at the data. The data, available in the original article (www.nejm.org...), clearly states that the effectiveness of the vaccination shots becomes NEGATIVE after 4-5 months. That means, those kids are worse off after just a few months compared to having no shots. Yes, positive effects in the short term, but negative effects in the longer run. That is the facts, that is what the data shows.

Table S2 " Effectiveness of the [...] Vaccine in Reducing the Rate of SARS-CoV-2 Infection" turns negative after week 20 latest. That means you are MORE prone to get infected after having the vaccine than without it.

a reply to: Byrd

The rapid decline in protection against omicron infection that was conferred by vaccination and previous infection provides support for booster vaccination.

Translation : "So now that you have destroyed your natural immune system, we'll be glad to offer the support of continuous, unending booster shots for the rest of your shortened lifespan".

a reply to: Byrd

So, protects those who've been sick with Covid before. Nothing about "destroying immunity."

LOL are we back to the vaccine offers immunity?

Because I thought it only helped keep you out of the hospital?