Mike Pence lashes out at Joe Biden's anti-MAGA speech

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: MensTeam
MAGA= The old days of the Baby Boomers who saw no rights for natives , blacks or gays .
The word AGAIN in MAGA is my proof .
Go DeSantis & down with Trump the vaccine Tsar & down with Biden & his pedophile sniffer

So according to you ... America was great, but only because of racists and racism? Interesting perspective you have. Hmm ...

What ? Gaslighting is old hat .

a reply to: MensTeam

You're the one who said it was all racism because AGAIN told you all you needed to know.

a reply to: MensTeam


What hyperbole!

You should try living in Afghanistan and see how that works out for you!

I have a friend since childhood who is gay. I was always there for him when I could be. Drive him to court after his 2nd dui, drive him to counseling after he slapped his boyfriend during a drunk fest which effected not only his neighbors, me, the police, his family. I’ve known him since childhood, and I care for him as a person. I am disappointed in how he keeps sabotaging himself.


I never once judged him! He brought up I loved Trump once, which made me have a conversation with him about it. He really believed what you were saying too, because he had been told that.


Getting too long here but to summarize:

I’m sick to death of hearing about all the victimhood

I’m furious with the indoctrination of children into twisted sex education in the school system and our libraries.

I no longer look at the gay community the same, sorry, this has pushed me further away but closer to my religion and their teachings of what is right and what is wrong!

I still believe to each their own, however, I would rather not be included in the sickness

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: MensTeam


What hyperbole!

You should try living in Afghanistan and see how that works out for you!

I have a friend since childhood who is gay. I was always there for him when I could be. Drive him to court after his 2nd dui, drive him to counseling after he slapped his boyfriend during a drunk fest which effected not only his neighbors, me, the police, his family. I’ve known him since childhood, and I care for him as a person. I am disappointed in how he keeps sabotaging himself.


I never once judged him! He brought up I loved Trump once, which made me have a conversation with him about it. He really believed what you were saying too, because he had been told that.


Getting too long here but to summarize:

I’m sick to death of hearing about all the victimhood

I’m furious with the indoctrination of children into twisted sex education in the school system and our libraries.

I no longer look at the gay community the same, sorry, this has pushed me further away but closer to my religion and their teachings of what is right and what is wrong!

I still believe to each their own, however, I would rather not be included in the sickness

Im a sickness now ?

a reply to: MensTeam


That all depends, do you like to share your ways with children? If so, that is sick!

I don’t know anything about you, but I know one thing. Being thrown off a roof for being gay sounds a lot harsher than being able to do whatever you want here in America.

originally posted by: MensTeam

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: MensTeam


What hyperbole!

You should try living in Afghanistan and see how that works out for you!

I have a friend since childhood who is gay. I was always there for him when I could be. Drive him to court after his 2nd dui, drive him to counseling after he slapped his boyfriend during a drunk fest which effected not only his neighbors, me, the police, his family. I’ve known him since childhood, and I care for him as a person. I am disappointed in how he keeps sabotaging himself.


I never once judged him! He brought up I loved Trump once, which made me have a conversation with him about it. He really believed what you were saying too, because he had been told that.


Getting too long here but to summarize:

I’m sick to death of hearing about all the victimhood

I’m furious with the indoctrination of children into twisted sex education in the school system and our libraries.

I no longer look at the gay community the same, sorry, this has pushed me further away but closer to my religion and their teachings of what is right and what is wrong!

I still believe to each their own, however, I would rather not be included in the sickness

Im a sickness now ?

You're one of those people who only sees the negative. 👎🏻

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: MensTeam


That all depends, do you like to share your ways with children? If so, that is sick!

I don’t know anything about you, but I know one thing. Being thrown off a roof for being gay sounds a lot harsher than being able to do whatever you want here in America.

MAGA is bad news for America & your comments are off base . Do not respond. I will not respond to you . Im a trans conservative who dislikes progressives & MAGA .. what is wrong with that ?
Leave me alone

a reply to: MensTeam


I’ll respond if I want to ….. whaaaa!

So you have decided to judge people based on Progressives & MAGA? Hmmm, judge much, see how that works?

I’m Independent btw :/

a reply to: MensTeam

the term AGAIN implies that the older days of Donald Trump were better or the 50s & 60s of all the Baby Boomers were better or greater than now.

You seem to believe that one cannot return to the days where children were highly educated, people made a living wage, and people were allowed to carry on their business without excessive government interference/regulation without also returning to racism, bigotry, etc. I do not believe that. I believe that we can return to the great part of yesterday without also reverting to the bad aspects.

With that world view, we must have hyperinflation and excessive homelessness, because if we do anything to combat those, we also must, by definition, reinstitute black slavery. I reject that notion wholeheartedly. Your perspective is absolute hopelessness, because it ties everything together even though reality says differently.

Children can be trained in how to read, write, and do math without forcing them to be bigots. People can make a good living at a good job without killing gay folk. Why do you think these things must exist as a unit?

when was American great in your opinion? Remember that Native Americans had no rights until the 50s & Blacks had no rights until mid 60s

For me, there were many things great about the 1970s. We didn't have people shooting up schools, for one. I consider a good thing; don't you? I can remember actually learning in school. Is that a bad thing? I can remember a time when I could, as a teenager, haul hay for farmers and mow yards to make a few spending dollars. I thought that was a good thing; it taught me the value of money at an early age and made me have respect for hard work.

How about a day when people actually talked together? That rarely happens now; instead we walk around with our heads buried in a smart phone.

Maybe the days when people could actually read a map and actually knew where they were going without some voice telling them where to turn?

Or how about the days when one could afford to have a doctor come to their house? I thought that was a great thing.

Do you think it is possible that we can return to any of those and still not beat up gay folks?

I do... well, I did... Biden is convincing me different.

TheRedneck

a reply to: MensTeam

Is the comment on Vegas a backhanded attempt to attack me for being gay ?

I'm interested in how you manage to walk with a chip that large on your shoulder. Must weigh 500 pounds!

What is the link between Las Vegas and being gay? Is Vegas no longer accessible to straight folks? Did they vote to become exclusively gay? If I ever take another trip to Vegas, does that mean i have to turn gay?

I'm honestly curious. I have never heard of that before. It would be a deal-breaker for the trip, though.

TheRedneck

a reply to: MensTeam

Im a sickness now ?

I know a guy who used to ask asinine questions like that. He's not so bad anymore, but at one point he had alienated everyone around him, gay, straight, everyone!

Understand something: I do not care who you bed. I do not care how you bed them. I do not care what cranks your tractor, and I do not care where you go to crank it. Your business; not mine. That's one thing that, yes, used to make America great: people didn't think every syllable uttered in their presence was an insult.

Every word you hear is not a personal insult. I hope you realize that before what happened to my friend happens to you. that is not an insult; it is a fervent hope for your future. You are on a forum that does not tolerate bigotry or racism for any reason against anyone. If someone insults you for being gay or whatever, it will not be tolerated.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: MensTeam

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: MensTeam


That all depends, do you like to share your ways with children? If so, that is sick!

I don’t know anything about you, but I know one thing. Being thrown off a roof for being gay sounds a lot harsher than being able to do whatever you want here in America.

MAGA is bad news for America & your comments are off base . Do not respond. I will not respond to you . Im a trans conservative who dislikes progressives & MAGA .. what is wrong with that ?
Leave me alone

You're also a liar. You were never conservative. Never. Show proof, or GTFOH!

In another thread you claimed to be a "registered republican" . Is that like, "I have black friends?"

a reply to: SourGrapes

For God's sake, I'm not even a registered republican.

lol

a reply to: DBCowboy

I doubt very many of us are. Honestly, it would surprise me if many of us are registered to either party although I could hazard a rough guess how many probably vote.

originally posted by: MensTeam
Im a Trans human & I support the GOP as a registered Republican voter but make America great again harkens back to a time when Trans were killed often & bullied severely.
There are millions of gay Republicans & we just beed more of them to run for office.
Joe Biden is old & panders to the lbgqt community.
Trump wants lbgqt people rounded up & I pray to a god that a lbgqt Republican can come out & save American from Biden & Trump

That's a lie. What Trump, and most Republicans and conservatives want is not to be forced to kowtow to an ideology we don't agree with, but still respecting your right to think whatever you want without forcing others to your line of thinking.

Attacking any trans person is wrong, as is attacking anyone who is not attacking you. Bullying anyone is wrong. But there are some trans people who have also bullied girls. There have been for a long time laws against attacking anyone, including trans people.

Plus perverts, some are some aren't really trans, are using the movement to satisfy their perversion while watching young girls and women in their most intimate moments in locker rooms, bathrooms, etc, and this is wrong.

Even Lesbians, gays and even some trans people are saying they are not part of the LGBTQ community anymore because the organization as a whole, same as the democrat party and the left in general, are in favor of the sexual indoctrination of children as young as 5 years old, and this is wrong.

As an adult you are entitled to your own opinion and way of living, but no one is entitled to push their ideology on others, and that's whats been happening.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: DBCowboy

I doubt very many of us are. Honestly, it would surprise me if many of us are registered to either party although I could hazard a rough guess how many probably vote.

I vote.

But I'm in Oregon, so . . . . . it's not like it counts.

"Im a trans conservative"

Now you're a banned trans conservative, good job!

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Zellio2023
If gas prices were to drop to pre Biden levels you know Anne would say Biden did it

I'm guessing the high gas prices must all be the fault of the boogeyman RUSSIA

Nevermind that gas was already a dollar higher in Bidens term before Russia Ukraine, and the keystone pipeline

I don't comment on Biden.

Is it because Trump takes up all the space in your brain?

originally posted by: MensTeam
MAGA= The old days of the Baby Boomers who saw no rights for natives , blacks or gays .
The word AGAIN in MAGA is my proof .
Go DeSantis & down with Trump the vaccine Tsar & down with Biden & his pedophile sniffer

Again lies. MAGA is not about "denying rights to natives, blacks of gays." MAGA is about defending the right of every individual to have their own individual freedoms. It isn't the right of anyone to push them into accepting an ideology they/we don't agree with.

MAGA is about lowering taxes, which President Trump proved by lowering taxes, even for the rich, helped regular Americans get $4,000-$5,000 U.S.D. extra each year.

MAGA is about responsibility, and not kowtowing to criminals like democrats and the left are doing.

MAGA is about defending the second amendment and every right enumerated in the U.S. Constitution.

As for "vaccines", President Trump said people should be able to decide whether or not to be vaccinated. He repeated this several times. Did he say people should get the vaccine? sure, but he didn't once want to force people to be vaccinated.

President Trump also talked about making available to the general public treatments against COVID such as the ones he received. Meanwhile democrats lied about treatments for COVID.

MAGA is about making the U.S. a beacon of freedom for every individual person.
MAGA is about keeping our sovereignty, instead of kowtowing to a globalist elite who want to completely control every aspect of people's lives.

MAGA is not about denying anyone any rights.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

MAGA is about lowering taxes, which President Trump proved by lowering taxes, even for the rich,

Only for the rich. He did nothing for you and me other than say that he did something for you and me. One of us believed it.

edit on 13-9-2022 by LordAhriman because: (no reason given)