Code Word For Depopulation ?

a reply to: AaarghZombies

you may think you are smarter than us. I know I'm getting personal, but you seem so smug. You might think you're smarter than us based on our comments. But don't bet on it. Don't be so omniscient man. Dare to question yourself.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Kenzo

Dont know about good but "worldometers.info" springs to mind.

www.worldometers.info...

Folks are just blindly pointing to that site these days.

It's not any kind of an accurate, or scientific site.

In fact : it's sketchy as heck. ...

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AaarghZombies
I would love to read a link about that....can you post one please?

Hi IINA, hope all is well !

One may possibly find it in the Shill™ training-manual, in the Apologetics-101™ section.

originally posted by: zandra
a reply to: AaarghZombies

you may think you are smarter than us. I know I'm getting personal, but you seem so smug. You might think you're smarter than us based on our comments. But don't bet on it. Don't be so omniscient man. Dare to question yourself.

Bots don't have emotions.

a reply to: Kenzo

I Agree , and there is ONLY One "Normal " , and anything Following that is NOT .

a reply to: Nothin

More just for illustrative purpose.

Which web site do you suggest we view that shows projected population growth with any sort of real veracity?

a reply to: Kenzo

Yeah , The " New Normal " Is the " Final Delusion " for Joe's Masters ..................

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Merchants™ have been forming Merchant-Associations™, for as long as there has been Merchants™.

Once one begins to understand what Technocracy™ is : you can't help but seeing it everywhere these days.

Have you never heard of Agenda-21™ ? Agenda 2030™ ? The WEF ?

The UN™ was not borne of a desire for nations to meet freely and fairly.
It was a wet-dream of Robber-Barons™ and Eugenicists™.

Those are not being designed by free nations.

They are done fastidiously by the dipsticks that work for TPTB™.

Can you not see any of that ?

a reply to: andy06shake

Am not the right one to ask for those kinds of things.

Am not a believer in any sort of Official™ Stats™, Censuses™, Polls™, Questionnaires™, Election-Results™, etc ...

There is just too much potential value in manipulating and massaging those numbers.

Maybe those numbers are all we have to go-by though ?

( Bet ya that sounds like a cop-out, eh ? LoL !! )

a reply to: Nothin

Nothin. I find not one thing in your post to find disagreement with yet it brings me to wonder what is it about what I posted to lead you to think that I might not.

You ask me ''Have you never heard of Agenda-21™ ? Agenda 2030™ ? The WEF ? '' and ''Can you not see any of that ? ''

In reply to your questions I will, if I may, ask you a few in return. Have you taken notice of how often I post in forums around here? Have you happened to notice how may years I have been posting? If so, how is it you ask me if I have never heard of Agenda 21 or 30 or the WEF?

So, in the spirit of honest discussion, what is it about what I posted above that could lead you to think that I might be unaware of these things?

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Yeah ... May have seen you around here, a time or two ...


LoL !!

Just teasing !
Have probably spent hours of my life reading your posts, overall.
Love your insight on a variety of topics.

Will show you the statements, and try to explain how they were interpreted by me.

... There are conspiracy people who consider tptb as a nefarious cabal of world controllers that may or may not go back long ago with designs at world domination, I am not one of those people who believe that. ...

That's where my question-face started.
Perhaps you might like to qualify how TPTB™ are not the energies behind the WEF™, Agenta-21™, and all of the other globally streamlined Agendas™, that flow-down to us in a seemingly coordinated manner, from Government™, MSM™, Corporations™, Institutions™, Foundations™, etc ... , in unison ?

... This is not to say that I deny that society has been subjected to ''control'' but rather it's that my view of tptb are not like some would portray it to be. ...

Maybe TPTB™ means a little something different, to everyone who uses the term ?

... I see them as those who have risen to the tops of the established power system. I see that power system basically as the economic system by which stuff is produced, traded and sold. What may have begun as simply one person seeking to trade a horse for a cow, or a bushel of corn for a hammer. Each thinking that they got the better side of the bargain.
Then of course there was the guy who decided to trade a ''sick'' horse for a ''healthy'' cow without telling the other guy about it being sick.

And that is where I think we are today. People selling stuff to other people with promises of this and that when in reality the product is not as great as it is promoted to be. And now, basically, those ''sellers'' are for the most part major corporations that do most of the producing and own most of the transportation and selling of product. Those people at the top are to my way of seeing things the powers that be. And yes they are nefarious because they see the rest of us as nothing more than the toss away part of their profit schemes. Each will buy and sell, lie and cheat to keep their own korporate kingdoms at the apex of the wealth pyramid.

Am still getting the vibe from that, that you are describing them as nothing more than a bunch of poker-sharks, sitting around a table, each trying to grow their stacks as much as possible, with a few rotten-apples in the bunch.

That view of mine about your text, if accurate, neglects any and all possible association between the sharks, to work for common goals.
But of course : you do know that they have a myriad of types of fields of cooperation.

What about all of them ancient Guilds™, in the independent zone of The-City-Of-London™ ?
Chambers of Commerce™ ?

Can you see now what ole Nothin was getting-at ?

a reply to: Nothin

Yeah, nothin same page. That poker metaphor, sure. I"ve played a good amount of poker so I will use that. There are the sharks and there are the suckers right? The sharks do play against each other, we should not forget that but when a sucker shows up to the table it's all against that one. So yes, all the major corporations collude to wipe out the little guy, but have no love lost between each other other than bargaining how to divvy up the suckers money.

And what makes it more complected is when some how those newbies at the table manage to amass enough chips of their own to be part of that shark club at that table. See where I"m coming from here? Sometimes those old sharks get pushed out if they have depended to much on old technology and hence we have the Gates and Musks etc that were fresh enough to get a chunk of the new profits while the old sharks were looking in the wrong direction.

And that analogy or metaphor or whatever is how I see the establishment push back at Trump. I don't see it as liberal vrs conservative or even government against anti-government. I see it as the current sharks at the table are pushing back at him because they don't want him at the table. It's not that he is a good guy and they the bad, rather that he wants more than anything else to be PART of the shark's club. And the why of that is that they can see that he is the kind of player that will not only pull an Ace from his sleeve but also the kind of loser who will tip the whole table if he isn't happy with the cards he is dealt.

As far as the ''old money'' clubs go well sure, but I don't see them as being a cabal of sorts that orchestrates the whole kaboodle from a secret office ya know? In a way I see them like ''wack-a-mole. Heads pop up here or there, get sighted by us public from what ever our perspective is be it liberal or conservative. The Koch Brothers were noticed by liberals long before conservatives noticed Gates an others, though both I'm sure recognize the capacity of Vanguard and Blackwhatever to end up owning everything.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Ever get the vibe that a couple of threads you are participating in, sorta converge ?

Maybe it reflects more our state of mind, than the actual conversations though ?

Just finished writing a reply in another thread, that would also be a suitable answer to your post.
Read it here.

Do you not think that view is reasonably accurate ?
What part of it do you disagree with ?


What folks are perceiving as Depopulation-Tactics™ these days, all make sense under the umbrella of WEF™ and GPPP™ Policies™, that seem to become ubiquitous, from out of nowhere.

Look to what is being coordinated worldwide.
What do you see that is changing ?
How about you pick-out something that looks like it may be coordinated in Western nations, and we look at that, to see if we can find where the steering is coming from ?

( Sorry to say that am completely and totally disinterested in any kind of Leftist™/Rightist™, Liberal™/Conservative™, Democrat™/Republican™ Biden/Trump discussion. )

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Kenzo

Dont know about good but "worldometers.info" springs to mind.

www.worldometers.info...

Neat.

28,000,000 people left until Earth hits 8 billion people. At a positive growth rate of 197,000 people a day 8 billion is hit in 142 days.

Best estimates predict earth maxes out at 10.9 billion by 2100.

Pandemic barely made a dent.

If it is a dastardly depopulation plot it's the one from Stargate, and it will take a bit. The vaccine will cause sterility. And the Aliens will make us disclose their existence and then try to turn us into farmland.

m.imdb.com...

a reply to: Nothin

Ever get the vibe that a couple of threads you are participating in, sorta converge ?

Maybe it reflects more our state of mind, than the actual conversations though ?

Yes, I notice that.
Yes, they appear to converge and
Probably the convergence is because of our state of mind AND because as I see it there is basically only one conversation.

A number of years ago and old friend and I were talking about this and that, we had conversed regularly for years on one topic and another, finding within ourselves our bests thoughts on a wide range of stuff. One afternoon he stopped me ans said,'' what are we talking about now T, is it this or that or exactly what? I looked at him and replied, All of em Fred, all of em. We have only one conversation, each topic is just part of the same conversation we have been having for years.

I think that much of what is steering us is the template we use to define our race. We know that when clocks were invented and developed it was common for philosophical types to consider the clock nature of humans. When the computer was invented, bingo, it became common to see how like computers we are. Now that we are developing AI, guess what?

So what is steering us. How about this one. It used to be that media commercials that paid for early radio and television programs were nothing more than informational spots. Here's the product if you want it. Then as younger people became educated in the work of Freud and Bernay's that shifted to rudimentary forms of cohesion, of what I think of as ''mind nudging''. That of course has now morphed into mind control. No longer is it necessary to promote the value of a product but simply to entertain a sucker for a minute or so and when they go to the store they recall only the good feeling they had during the commercial to spark them to by the product.

And to that, more and more commercials have been packed into programming. More commercials means pack them tight with control mechanisms. And make them shorter so more and be push in between slots of programming. And make the programming shorter to give more time for the commercials.

With that as the end, people are trained into short term attention spans. Fun commerical fun commercial and fun program.. ETC. And comedies? The ones with laugh tracks that tell people when someting is funny? If you never have, turn one on sometime, close your eyes and just listenn, not to the dialogue but only to the laugh track.All of them go something like chuckle, chuckle, titter, chuckle, GUFFAW, snicker, repeat and repeat and repeat. Same goes for a lot of tv news.
News snippet snippet shippet C O M E R C I A L S, snippet snippet etc.

My point being because you asked me to choose is that this manipulation is not directed by any one controlling entity but simply by the profit making success of the the entire system

And the GPPP? Yep. But my take on that is best referred to in regards Dwayne Johnson, the Rock. Early in his career, he shifted ring names a few times trying to fine one he could sell the best. At that time when some wanted him to use his old name he developed one of his best slogans. He would toss back his head and yell into the microphone. ''IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS'' So for me nothin, it's all a multi-headed-hydra.....and it's all the same conversation.

your turn.

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originally posted by: zandra
a reply to: AaarghZombies

you may think you are smarter than us. I know I'm getting personal, but you seem so smug. You might think you're smarter than us based on our comments. But don't bet on it. Don't be so omniscient man. Dare to question yourself.

I think that I provide solid sources to back up what I'm saying, so it doesn't matter whether or not I'm personally smarter than you because I've got facts and citations from people who have done the research to support me.

And in the case of communism you should remember that this is an international forum, so some of us may have been there when these events happened.

a reply to: Nothin

Am not the right one to ask for those kinds of things.

Am not a believer in any sort of Official™ Stats™, Censuses™, Polls™, Questionnaires™, Election-Results™, etc ...

I take it you don't vote then?

There is just too much potential value in manipulating and massaging those numbers.

There is always potential value in the manipulation of data and information, that's not apt to change anytime soon.

Bet ya that sounds like a cop-out, eh ? LoL

Not really as i don't imagine there is a site that records births and deaths worldwide with any sort of accuracy in real-time.

Chances are the site i provided uses a predictive algorithm as opposed to presenting real statistical information regarding worldwide births and deaths.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

I think that I provide solid sources to back up what I'm saying

Financially solid, yes. Realistically solid, hazy.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

You've been consistently debunked by a bot, how humiliating.

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: AaarghZombies

I think that I provide solid sources to back up what I'm saying

Financially solid, yes. Realistically solid, hazy.

And yet you don't provide examples.

This seems to be your thing, making these vague accusations, but never actually specifying what you're talking about so that people can't directly challenge you on them.