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originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: andy06shake
Thanks , it does look that by 2100 will be over 10 billion .
Maybe there is allready fix for that ( vaccines , poisoned food/water , )
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: AaarghZombies
Nothing to do with the 1943 Bengal Famine my arse. LoL
Winston Churchill was a staunch imperialist and monarchist, AaarghZombies and pretty much a racist.
And the Bengal Famine was down to complete and utter failure of British policy as much as it was to do with drought or anything else.
Im criticizing him for his involvement in the death of 3 to 4 million people down to starvation, simple as that.
Great war-time PM, but he had his issues and problems to contend with, that's a fact, and reflected in the things he said and did throughout his life.
www.bbc.co.uk...
originally posted by: Athetos
Lol your insight on low income pregnancies is hilarious. They aren’t getting knocked up because they are stupid and lack understand not at all not even close.
They are getting knocked up and being single terrible mothers to a host of little retards because scocity has given them the green light and the bucks to do so. They are told it’s brave a strong to be a single mother and the there is a whole system in place to help perpetuate the problem because the state pays for it.
If those kids didn’t come with a pay cheque you best believe the girls would have flawless contraceptive use.
It’s the same here in Canada especially with natives. They arnt stupid or vulnerable or any buzz word. They are entrepreneurial!
a reply to: AaarghZombies
We call this P-Hacking, or Probability-hacking.
It's where you take a whole bunch of numbers, data or statistics and you look for similar values that - if taken together - could be made to look like a trend, if you remove all of the contradictory values. Or, where you take something that you want to signal boost and look for things that seem to be related to it.
It's based on the idea that if you get enough information together you can find things that seem similar, but are really just by coincidences or are otherwise unrelated.
For example, if you take the prophesies of Nostradamus, you can find dozens of historical events that could sort or maybe be made to fit together, to promote just about any agenda you want purely on the basis that enough things have happened in human history that some of them will fit by pure coincidence.
A good example of this are the graphs that appear to show that the introduction of the MMR vaccine is linked to a rise in the number of cases of autism.
If you look at the data from Europe and the US it appears to track pretty closely, and if you look at the data from Africa where they didn't use the MMR and didn't have a corresponding rise in autism it also seems to track. This is because the people making the graphs deliberately excluded data from countries like Japan where they had a near identical rise in cases of autism despite them using separate vaccines for years.
The actual cause now seems to be a combination of women having children later in life, and people widening the definition of autism in order to include more people because this was a good way of triggering extra funding for things like education.
Ask yourself this, would Bengal have faired any better had it not been part of the British empire?
You can try and polish the turd and justify it any way you choose
the policy of the British Empire and Churchill's actions, or rather inaction, directly contributed
attempting to judge or hold people of the past to the standards of today tends to bode badly, but that doesn't change the fact that he was an imperialist royalist who liked to call brown/black people "wogs".
Justify what, exactly?
Which was perfectly normal for the time. How else could the man have been?
As yourself this, why didn't the people who actually owned that grain send it to Bengal themselves?
originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: AaarghZombies
Justify what, exactly?
The fact that Churchill had a hand in the Bengal famine springs to mind.
Which was perfectly normal for the time. How else could the man have been?
Less racist and imperialistic might be nice, so there is that.
Racism has never been normal unless you are in a room with other racists imho.
As yourself this, why didn't the people who actually owned that grain send it to Bengal themselves?
I don't have a clue, as i was not there, same as yourself.
However, the place was still a colony where British rule held sway and Churchill was perfectly aware of the situation transpiring.
Hence his complicity, considering the failure of policy which contributed to 3-4 million dead.
As to what people will think about me in 100 years time, well i don't suppose it will be much if anything to be honest, nor do i particularly care.
I find it deeply alarming that you fail to see Churchill's shortcomings considering the comparison with the Bengal famine and what Stalin did in Ukraine aka millions of dead people.
Touch of hero worship going on there?
Nobody is perfect AaarghZombies certainly not Winston Churchill.
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
During the 1950s and 1960s China, Russia, and a host of other communist countries suffered food shortages of horrifying proportions. Millions died.
According to your logic this must have been population control.
In reality it was because the people in charge had absolutely no idea about farming or logistics. So they ordered people to plant the wrong crops in the wrong places, and at the wrong times, and if by pure effort somebody manager to produce something it ended up rotting in a train carriage somewhere because an idiot leader didn't realize that you couldn't magic a thousands tonnes of wet grain into dry bread for a population a thousand miles away.
You're example, while I get the sentiment, doesn't even support your own argument. If anything it support mine because the censorship is a knee jerk reaction because they didn't understand their potential audiences. They were incompetent and panicked to cover it up.
And Bill Gate's support for anti-malaria campaigns has probably saved millions.