Evolution? The most GDed ridiculous Fing thing ever to have been imagined

a reply to: Helious

"My people parish for a lack of knowledge"

I believe in a god. Belief of God is no more ridiculous than believing that "the big bang" created everything.

That being said... If humans didn't evolve from apes, then why are we born with leftovers from them?

I do NOT believe that "god created man in his image". That is an absolute insult to God. I've seen the things men can do to each other. We are a destructive, savage lifeform on this planet.

originally posted by: Mrthunker

originally posted by: Lysergic
So who is winning?

Has anyone changed anyones mind yet?

Does everyone still believe the same things before going into the thread?

Yeah.

you should have just posted “derp”

lul Bye Felica.

originally posted by: TzarChasm


There are no winners on this forum regardless of the matter being debated or the most popularly voted comments. Have a cookie for your contribution 🍪

Might as well posted 'derp'.

There's more evidence to prove evolution than there ever has been, or will be, that "God" of your bible created everything. It's completely illogical and has the same exact merit as does every other religion who says their diety created everything. Yours is not special. Just because you choose to believe it does not mean it is real. Look around you instead of what you are told.

Half of the religious people wouldnt even be religious if they werent told and molded how to think growing up.

Want me to prove to you evolution exists? You were but a spec in your fathers nutsack at one point. Yet, you are now typing on an electronic device arguing that God created everything.

a reply to: Randyvine2

Out of all the possible lies of Satan why is evolution the worst one? It's not the only discovery that pokes a giant cavern through the Abrahamic narrative.

If you want history in the bible go for The Book of Judges onward or ones telling the narrative after they settled. Trying to line fact up with the books of the Torah is not going to lead anywhere. The New Testament is actually more historically accurate than the old because of the first five books.

How many years does it take to travel the alleged 263 miles from Cairo to Jerusalem anyway? Maybe God had to make it rain honey wafers because Moses accidentally went in Saudi Arabia and walked in circles for 40 years? And why he didn't take the well known land trade route between The Egyptian annex of Canaan and Cairo is beyond me.

Evolution is the least of the blasphemous logical assumptions that threaten the validity of the "bible's truth". Parable is fine.

And I could post all the scientific evidence possible and it wouldn't sway you one bit. Even if there are hilarious evolutionary things happening like Island Syndrome.

People are 3 feet tall and pigeons stop flying.

They don't stay as is in anycase. Definite adaptive changes due to environment. Crazy how lack of predation has relatively quick results.

I'm actually curious what other answer there could be for Island Syndrome besides natural selection?

So reverse to you. Best argument explaining Island Syndrome that removes natural selection.

a reply to: Degradation33

You're talking about shifts in isolated populations like in Australia?

Good question one I haven't tackled before. So I'm gonna read up on that.
I give you respect for not spewing forth the same old redundant BS I've
come to expect here. Meanwhile there others you can pose this question to
far more well read than a truck driver. Perhaps they can respond better
than I at the moment. Or maybe you can play devils advocate. Now this I like.


Cooperton

Where is logic

There are others but let myself concede the question for the moment.
I will get back to you.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: tanstaafl
I don't know why you guys are so fixed on mutation? That's not really what anybody is saying.

That is the only thing that can possibly be meant when you claim that ALL life currently on earth evolved from some primordial ooze.

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: Randyvine2

Definite adaptive changes due to environment. Crazy how lack of predation has relatively quick results.

I'm actually curious what other answer there could be for Island Syndrome besides natural selection?

So reverse to you. Best argument explaining Island Syndrome that removes natural selection.

Natural selection is absolutely a thing.

But the thing is, natural selection - what you are describing - is not the same thing as the claim that Man could 'evolve' from primordial ooze, or that a snail can change into a wombat.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: tanstaafl

Well it looks like Nature didn't care what you think can or can't happen. It did.
Not saying that each bigger step didn't require some 'additional encouragement'.

'Additional encouragement' is the only thing that could explain one species mutating into another.

There are stories about the possibility of alien genetic manipulation in our ancient past to mutate neanderthal into homo sapiens.

Maybe - just maybe - such genetic manipulation could eventually produce such a result, MAYBE. But 'natural selection? Trillions of identical RANDOM variations occurring SIMULTANEOUSLY in a large number of the same species, enough to result in becoming a permanent change to the entire species?

Again, that is just as (if not more) preposterous as the story of Creation.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: tanstaafl

Well it looks like Nature didn't care what you think can or can't happen. It did.
Not saying that each bigger step didn't require some 'additional encouragement'.

'Additional encouragement' is the only thing that could explain one species mutating into another.

There are stories about the possibility of alien genetic manipulation in our ancient past to mutate neanderthal into homo sapiens.

Maybe - just maybe - such genetic manipulation could eventually produce such a result, MAYBE. But 'natural selection? Trillions of identical RANDOM variations occurring SIMULTANEOUSLY in a large number of the same species, enough to result in becoming a permanent change to the entire species?

Again, that is just as (if not more) preposterous as the story of Creation.

It could be more preposterous but since that isn't what happens in evolution we don't need to worry about it.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Maybe all life in the universe?

Amino acids were found in a comets tail. Confirmed panspermia.

Amino acids form in dense interstellar clouds before the stars

Stellar nurseries are also the birthplace of the amino acids that spread the seeds of organic life throughout the universe on balls of ice. That's awesome. So freaking organic.

** And if you want to retain divinity you can marvel even more at the almighty power to program a universe to go from inflation to stellar formation to organic life clinging to balls of dirt everywhere.

Pretty ingenious and simple code too. 12 elementary paricle/anti particle pairs. (6 lepton/6 quarks), 6 bosons (if you count the graviton), and critical temperature thresholds for phase change. With that it can build upon itself in layers of complexity.

a reply to: Degradation33

** And if you want to retain divinity you can marvel even more at the almighty power to program a universe to go from inflation to stellar formation to organic life clinging to balls of dirt everywhere.

See now you're denying the way of God. If there is a God (by the general question).

He would surely be cable of telling us how life came to be. The scriptures stand
alone against multitudes of hate thru the ages. God is in everything men do including
the Bible. Thaty's my big problem with evilution. It can be oh so subtle just like the
serpant.

To suggest things can happen in a hostile environment and lead to life is truly
preposterous. So panspermia goes out the door on it's ear.

a reply to: Helious

The problem lies with common people not getting all the information. That results in a "general consensus" of the public and then, GL applying common sense against mob rule. Maybe human nature evolved that way..... Lol.

Precisely I give you the above video to clarify.

a reply to: ExiledSpirit777

All up in your language in every thought, there's no escape.

About as amusing as watching a rat in a cage.

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: tanstaafl

It could be more preposterous but since that isn't what happens in evolution we don't need to worry about it.

So, by all means, please explain precisely how primordial ooze turns into a human being without 'that' happening?

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: tanstaafl

Amino acids were found in a comets tail. Confirmed panspermia.

The presence of amino acids in comets doesn't prove that they eventually mutate into human (or any other) beings.

a reply to: cooperton

You should make a thread on this fallen and unfallen state would be interesting

a reply to: Randyvine2

Thaty's my big problem with evilution. It can be oh so subtle just like the
serpant.

What serpent? Is it the Garden of Eden talking snake thing?

a reply to: TzarChasm

Then clearly you're not in a position to be condescending or superior in your present philosophy about the nature of existence and human destiny.

How so?

a reply to: midicon

Yep the one you see comemorated all over the anciemt world.