Trump moves closer to getting a ''special master''

a reply to: JinMI

Garland said Trump can be indicted at any time in the next 90 days.

a reply to: JinMI

It is proven. If a document has classified markings then there's no way it is Trump's personal document. It can only be a document belonging to the US government. Something Trump does not have a possessory interest in.

a reply to: frogs453

What more can I do. I showed you that the the DOJ stated in their filing that Trump was to hand over classified documents as noted in the subpoena. The filing states that Trump team acknowledged they recieved that subpoena. They also provided a signed statement that the documents(which again as noted in the subpoena were classified) were turned over.

I still haven't seen where the agents conducting the raid had clearance to even know what they were looking for. If the classification was so far up the top secret food chain, how were the fbi agents vetted to retrieve them? Or was the idea to just let them grab folders with the markings and sort it out later? That is important because if Trump is as dirty as you claim what was to stop him from just emptying the folders? Just because a warrant was served it does not mean any old agent has the clearance to even touch them. A special monitor is to insure both sides are playing by the rules. If anything the fbi does not warrant any trust due to their actions on public record.

a reply to: hangedman13

Agents were instructed to recover any document with classified markings, any other objects stored with those documents, and any Presidential/ government records. From what I can find, most FBI agents have at least Top Secret clearance. This being the Counterintelligence division, I would not be surprised if they all had TS/SCI clearance.

That is important because if Trump is as dirty as you claim what was to stop him from just emptying the folders?

Looks like he did just that. Investigators retrieved 43 folders empty folders with classified markings.

a reply to: hangedman13

You must have missed it. 43 empty classified folders were found. That's very concerning.

And regarding security levels:

The FBI agents who conducted the search at Mar-a-Lago needed special clearance to view the documents found there, the Department of Justice (DoJ) has said.

In some instances even the FBI counterintelligence personnel and DOJ attorneys conducting the review required additional clearances before they were permitted to review certain documents,” the agency said in its filing.

Link

a reply to: Xcalibur254


REVELATION

Trumps security clearance is still in effect,

because there have been no violations.

Docs seized were declassified in Jan 2020.

Only the Classified Markings remained.

a reply to: carewemust

John the Revelator you are not.

No one has said that Trump's security clearance was revoked. However, just because he has a security clearance gives him no claim of ownership over these documents.

As for the documents being declassified in 2020, Trump's lawyers certainly aren't making that argument. So why are you?

a reply to: Xcalibur254

I did read and posted here before that they were so leary of Trumps handling of classified docs while in office that he was not even extended the courtesy of intelligence briefings once he was out of office as other Presidents were.

His clearance doesn't miraculously go away, however any classified or even declassified info is the property of the U.S
Government.

Now that it's after 6:30 in Florida, I'm going to assume Cannon won't be making her decision until Tuesday at the earliest.

That leads me to believe she'll probably end up going with the DOJ's suggestion of allowing a special master for attorney-client privilege but not executive privilege. If she were going to drop a bombshell she would've done it at the end of the day today and gotten out of town.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Good oberservation. Most likely a quiet weekend.

a reply to: carewemust

Best president ever... he obviously packed all that stuff up himself by hand so he could sell it to russia russia russia and then left the empty evidence that no one knows what is instead of just tossing it in the fire place.

None of it adds up, no motive and everyone is debating total speculation.

What's really convenient is that we will never know what these documents are supposed to be bcoz they're like top secret lol, how convenient.

And leave the stuff sitting around for 2 years... gimme a break, he set "them" up and they bit, that's what it looks like to me.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI

I don't see any violation. Are you suggesting that law enforcement has to know exactly where the goods at any given address are, like 2nd drawer of office desk, before a judge can sign a warrant?

You're naive.

Youre whatabouts need not apply as they arent the topic nor relevant to.

I'm not the one who said that Trump's 14th Amendment "equal protection" rights were violated. I'm the one saying look at how the law regularly treats these kinds of issues if you want to see the equity curve. Trump is way above it. There are people sitting in jail for a whole lot less, when it comes to the Espionage Act.

He's lucky he's not being questioned at Guantanamo right now.

speaking of spies,

who told the fbi where to look?

and what was their clearances?

someone had to write the warrant with places to look, right?

i doubt it said to search every desk , that is too broad.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

No one has said that Trump's security clearance was revoked.

NO, but, White House Reviewing Whether To Revoke Trump’s Access To Intelligence Briefings

Biden says Trump should no longer receive classified intelligence briefings

Pretty sure it was granted. And rightly so.

a reply to: iamthevirus

gimme a break, he set "them" up and they bit, that's what it looks like to me.

Yeah, those drugs you found when you searched my house, I put them there to set YOU up. LMFAO.

Those diamonds you found that I stole, I was simply setting YOU guys up.

You guys are a trip and the gymnastics you use to justify the former dude.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: hangedman13

You must have missed it. 43 empty classified folders were found. That's very concerning.

And regarding security levels:

The FBI agents who conducted the search at Mar-a-Lago needed special clearance to view the documents found there, the Department of Justice (DoJ) has said.

In some instances even the FBI counterintelligence personnel and DOJ attorneys conducting the review required additional clearances before they were permitted to review certain documents,” the agency said in its filing.

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lol. those file covers are not like counterfeiting C notes.

you want to see my top secret file covers?

they learned from hillary, not to just put a big C on it

now they spell it out in big letters.

ACME TOP SECRET FILES.

a reply to: sarahvital



this time will be different @@

2 years sitting around in some personal items.

Damn give us something, any reason not to like this guy besides his off the cuff stick it where the sun don't shine attitude.

originally posted by: iamthevirus
a reply to: sarahvital

this time will be different @@

2 years sitting around in some personal items.

Damn give us something, any reason not to like this guy besides his off the cuff stick it where the sun don't shine attitude.

Watch it all come back to bite him.

a reply to: iamthevirus

Also, the FBI emptied folders that contained info damaging to the FBI...Obama...Biden, etc..

nypost.com...

Truth: The DOJ is as dirty as Biden.

a reply to: JinMI

FYI: This is what the search warrant authorised:

ATTACHMENT B
Property to be seized

All physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 793, 2071, or 1519, including the following:

a. Any physical documents with classification markings, along with any containers/boxes (including any other contents) in which such documents are located, as well as any other containers/boxes that are collectively stored or found together with the aforementioned documents and containers/boxes;

b. Information, including communications in any form, regarding the retrieval, storage, or transmission of national defense information or classified material;

c. Any government and/or Presidential Records created between January 20, 2017, and January 20, 2021; or

d. Any evidence of the knowing alteration, destruction, or concealment of any government and/or Presidential Records, or of any documents with classification markings. Case 9:22-mj-08332-BER Document

You will notice that classified documents are NOT the only evidence they were looking for.

a reply to: rnaa

Clearly.......