England and Wales excess deaths terrifying MSM

originally posted by: Axios
a reply to: anonentity

Do you just watch bitchute trash all day?

This guy playing with a rudimentary chart and playing excel does nothing to support the vaccine injuries you and the fool in the video are insinuating.

lol he got you to click it

People, just because something is posted on a different search engine or social media platform other then YouTube, Face Book or Twitter does not mean it is not real or true. Get some common sense back in this world please..

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

The only way Bitchute videos can be got at, is in the comments section, and in every one dealing with the subject of Vaccines, the comments are polluted with anti-Jewish crap.Or Disgusting sexual slurs. These people are under attack from some source that is so transparent as to be coordinated. If someone says something and gives a creditable source, that is the only logical consideration. ATS is obviously under attack as well by certain posters. Which only strengthens the suspicion that the truth is their enemy.
I don't trust government sources I prefer to listen to normal people that have been motivated to actually post something with regards to actual observations on the ground level. Like more ambulance sirens going off, and more burials of young people and children.If official government figures come out they have to spin something and control the narrative.They have to issue death stats, and as a, for instance, why include 2021 in the five-year average, unless it's to make the average death figures look better than they are from the pre-pandemic period? This means whatever the average death rate is it is more than they are saying.

a reply to: LABTECH767

What your saying is bang on, the imbalance will get so bad that it will just tip into a communist system, The communist manifesto says"uncontrolled Capitalism is a tool for revolution" It will eventually lead to state intervention, not this state and the new state will not want to give up power any more than the Tories. Then you are stuck with it. A balanced system where the state runs essential services as nonprofit enterprises underpins the free enterprise of Capital ventures. It is always going to end up that way if you want a stable society.

originally posted by: WIKDHOTSNOMAN
a reply to: chr0naut

Isn't Bitchute just another video board similar to how YouTube started?

Users post video content they produce. Right?

I mean, minus the censorship of course.

Yes, users may post whatever they like.

The difference is one of that between an authenticated source, and one that hosts un-credentialled, un-authenticated content, and has significant details that are particularly, and notably, anonymized.

It is by its very nature, not a credible information source.

a reply to: chr0naut

But hey NZ is sicker now than ever, how about this MSM admitting to a rise in sickness but skirting the obvious? To control the narrative because they pushed it.It's TVNZ don't you believe them? www.bitchute.com...

a reply to: chr0naut

It is by its very nature, not a credible information source.

That's why the internet has always been a place where you wade thru
the mud to get to the truth. Even more so when it rains. Those who
decide to remove the mud are really after removing the truth.

Everything that's on bit chute and rumble should also be available
on you tube. Just like it used to be. I remember when people
used to post Sorcha Faal articles on ATS.

They'd get humiliated but they found out something they needed
to know. When I first started online I thought no one could lie
on the internet. Can you imagine that? lol

But man did I learn? lol

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: chr0naut

But hey NZ is sicker now than ever, how about this MSM admitting to a rise in sickness but skirting the obvious? To control the narrative because they pushed it.It's TVNZ don't you believe them? www.bitchute.com...

Yes, apparently there is an epidemic of disease going on.

Fortunately, with the number of those fully immunized, the more serious effects per infection are much reduced compared to what was happening in the very few cases we had before the epidemic here really took off.

TVNZ is fairly impartial, but RadioNZ has an even better reputation. RadioNZ are also publishing the numbers every day.

If you recall, the initial numbers of those with COVID-19 started to rise rapidly but because of New Zealand's previous wins against the disease, its uptake of the immunizations was slow. Deaths per day back then were about the same as today, with a thousandth of the number of cases. The immunizations, therefore, have very significantly reduced the worst effects of the disease, especially when you consider that all other mitigations such as lock-downs, mask use, travel restrictions, public congregation limits, and isolation periods, have either stopped or been much reduced in the same time-frame. All we have to attribute the reduction in deaths per infection now is to the immunization coverage.

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: chr0naut

It is by its very nature, not a credible information source.

That's why the internet has always been a place where you wade thru
the mud to get to the truth. Even more so when it rains. Those who
decide to remove the mud are really after removing the truth.

Everything that's on bit chute and rumble should also be available
on you tube.

Why?

Wouldn't that be just a redundant waste of everyone's time, attention, and electrical power?

And do you think the 'alternatives' would even exist?

Just like it used to be.

"Just like it used to be"

I remember when there was no YouTube, or social media, or even the Internet.

Yet somehow we went to the moon, and progressed massively, more than any time in previous human history.

And it was so good, that people keep looking back at it saying "lets make it just like it used to be" (I am quoting you, here).

I remember when people used to post Sorcha Faal articles on ATS.

They'd get humiliated but they found out something they needed
to know. When I first started online I thought no one could lie
on the internet. Can you imagine that? lol

But man did I learn? lol

So, you feel that you should sort through the mud for jewels of truth.

How many billions of posts on social media platforms are there to search through?

Has it occurred to you that there is so much mud, and jewels are so small and far between (if there are jewels there at all), that it is impossible do by looking in mud?

How about sorting through a jewelers showcase - a repository of verified and verifiable truth - to pick your jewel? Wouldn't that be easier?

a reply to: chr0naut

How about sorting through a jewelers showcase to pick your jewel? Wouldn't that be easier?

I just said in a way that's where you pay for it. See you're
programmed to trust the jeweler. I've been raised to trust no
man or woman. Trust is never given if not first earned. Great
rule for survival in every society.

Your jeweler only shows what he wants you to see.

a reply to: chr0naut

The only problem with your spin is that they are not sick with Covid.

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: chr0naut

How about sorting through a jewelers showcase to pick your jewel? Wouldn't that be easier?

I just said in a way that's where you pay for it. See you're
programmed to trust the jeweler.

No, that doesn't follow. You can still be discerning.

I've been raised to trust no
man or woman.

What, and you didn't automatically distrust those who raised you?

How contrarian of you.

Trust is never given if not first earned. Great
rule for survival in every society.

Your jeweler only shows what he wants you to see.

I don't trust the clown in the video. He is trying to make a joke out of the deaths of people for a condition that does not exist. Would it be funny if he or his family members died? What about you, or your family members? There is a disease which is highly infectious and has been killing people well before any immunizations were available against it. And he is trying to dissuade people from taking reasonable precautions against that disease. This will contribute to multiple unnecessary deaths. His actions are morally reprehensible.

But, getting back on topic, a trusted jeweller wouldn't dare to sell worthless trinkets to a valued customer, that he knows is discerning and knowledgeable. Earned trust can be mutual.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: chr0naut

The only problem with your spin is that they are not sick with Covid.

What the people hospitalized, who are displaying symptoms of COVID-19, who are in isolation wards set up for people with COVID-19, and who are also testing positive for COVID-19, and who later die of COVID-19 as marked on their death certificate by experienced medical personnel?

Tell me more...



Or, are you talking of other people who die of other conditions, which have existed historically, in similar or greater numbers before the introduction of the immunizations, but which you blame entirely on the immunizations?

a reply to: chr0naut

What, and you didn't automatically distrust those who raised you?

Wow, you will resort to anything. My mistake, I thought you might be worth
talking to.

a reply to: chr0naut

Anyone who has the slightest bit of common sense would be at this present stage of the game doing everything possible to mitigate the damage already caused. Not keep on digging a hole. My prediction is that not everyone who has taken the tea is going to die and that the truth is always somewhere in the middle of the opposing dialogues, it is certainly not as safe as they advertised. But if the truth is in the middle, just the scale of the rollout in time will cause a society that will collapse simply because of general sickness. My suspicion is that those who caused it are running scared, and cursing the day they agreed to have a hand in it. But what else can they do but brave it out.

originally posted by: Axios
a reply to: anonentity

Do you just watch bitchute trash all day?

This guy playing with a rudimentary chart and playing excel does nothing to support the vaccine injuries you and the fool in the video are insinuating.

Took all of two seconds....

www.msn.com...

Experts call for probe as mortality rates in England and Wales climb despite drop in coronavirus deaths

A total of 10,836 deaths were registered in England and Wales, a 16.6% increase on the five-year average.

But only 2.6% (285) of the latest deaths involved Covid-19

a reply to: anonentity

Absolutely agree, the Tory's won't be slow to bring in the army if they don't get there own way though so people will die when they start to riot over the next three or so years as there lives are destroyed from under them, it will make the strikes of the 70's and 80's pale by comparison but since unions are few and far between these days it won't be strikes it will be riots.

The poor beleaguered retail sector another victim of the Tory's will get it in the neck as out of control gang's destroy there shop's again etc AND the Tory's will simply use this as an excuse to draft yet more freedom inhibiting laws and give the police yet more powers when they already don't use the powers they already have correctly half the time.

The rest of the country 'hopefully' will protest with there vote though let's be fair New Labour are about as much use as a wet lettuce and we have probably three more years of this (Unelected by the Public most of them voted Boris because they liked him but did not have a clue what he really represented) Tory dictatorship to go.

You know before Russia made it's aggressive attack upon the Ukraine they planned it for a long time, they had Europe in there grip with the Gas and Oil and they undercut other sources in order to ensure this.

Then they faced an ideological problem, a man called Jeremy Corbyn wanted to renationalize north sea gas and oil, the electricity and other essential assets within the UK and the UK was seen as one of there main potential hurdles in there plan to retake the former Soviet territory's.

So over the next few years after Jeremy Corbyn became leader of the Labour Party right wing Russian troll's attacked him on social media, Russian oligarch's funded the Conservative party and all to ensure that we would not be self sufficient and that when they turned off the tap the social collapse they were engineering would happen weakening us and hopefully from there perspective giving us too many internal problems to be a real threat to them (This is the truth the Tory's whom accepted that oligarch money do not want you to know, they even tried to link Corbyn with Russia and to blacken him going back but in fact Russian Troll's were even attacking Corbyn's supporters on Facebook and other social media so never trust a Tory unless he is telling the truth and how do you know?).

Remember many of the capped well's whose rig's have been decommissioned in the north sea are actually still viable and there may be 40 to 60 years of more than enough oil and gas down them but private company's that were running them were not concerned with this, they were concerned solely with profit margins and maintaining the price as high as possible in order to maximise there profit's.

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: Axios
a reply to: anonentity

Do you just watch bitchute trash all day?

This guy playing with a rudimentary chart and playing excel does nothing to support the vaccine injuries you and the fool in the video are insinuating.

Took all of two seconds....

www.msn.com...

Experts call for probe as mortality rates in England and Wales climb despite drop in coronavirus deaths

A total of 10,836 deaths were registered in England and Wales, a 16.6% increase on the five-year average.

But only 2.6% (285) of the latest deaths involved Covid-19

No one can directly answer this increase. They dance around it and try to say the data is wrong. Or say it's drugs and Suicides, which only occur in after 2021.

I guess everyone waited until 2021 to start dying rapidly. The vaccines should correlate with a decrease in all cause mortality not an extreme increase. Jesus

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Yes, they can. From that source:

"But experts are pointing towards other factors, including e cost-of-living crisis and lack of healthcare access, as reasons why the mortality rate is increasing even as Covid deaths fall.

Paul Hunter, professor in medicine at the University of East Anglia, told The Telegraph that some of the excess deaths could be down to Covid further weakening already vulnerable peoples’ health. But other, “quite complex” factors were at play, he said.

Hunter suggested that the “current financial situation” could be “exacerbating” the problem of reduced access to healthcare and delays to treatment, as well as causing “chronic stress”. And “reduced activity and sedentary” lifestyles as a result of lockdown restrictions might also have played a part."

So there is that, which you conveniently ignore.

Having said that, I agree it needs thorough investigation.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Having said that, I agree it needs thorough investigation.

Can't ask for anything more.