Are You As Enthusiastic About The COVID Vaccines As You Were Last Year?

originally posted by: panoz77

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: ussmidway
My doctor highly recommends getting vaccinated, and I too haven't heard of anybody having ill effects from the vaccine.

Loads of people are getting COVID AFTER vaccinations.

Wouldn't THAT be an "ill effect"? 😧

Even the CDC has finally confessed that 42% of the fatalities due to the Omicron variant were FULLY VACCINATED individuals. LOL, some people just refuse to admit that taking this experimental poison was a mistake.

www.washingtonpost.com...
"The vaccinated made up 42 percent of fatalities in January and February during the highly contagious omicron variant’s surge, compared with 23 percent of the dead in September, the peak of the delta wave, according to nationwide data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analyzed by The Post. The data is based on the date of infection and limited to a sampling of cases in which vaccination status was known."

And that's based on skewed data. In other countries its 90% of the population.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: panoz77

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: ussmidway
My doctor highly recommends getting vaccinated, and I too haven't heard of anybody having ill effects from the vaccine.

Loads of people are getting COVID AFTER vaccinations.

Wouldn't THAT be an "ill effect"? 😧

Even the CDC has finally confessed that 42% of the fatalities due to the Omicron variant were FULLY VACCINATED individuals. LOL, some people just refuse to admit that taking this experimental poison was a mistake.

www.washingtonpost.com...
"The vaccinated made up 42 percent of fatalities in January and February during the highly contagious omicron variant’s surge, compared with 23 percent of the dead in September, the peak of the delta wave, according to nationwide data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analyzed by The Post. The data is based on the date of infection and limited to a sampling of cases in which vaccination status was known."

And that's based on skewed data. In other countries its 90% of the population.

Yes, and if you understood statistics you'd realize that this shows that the vax is extremely effective.

Take a look at who the people are dying actually are. They're not the young and vaxxed, or the middle aged and vaxed, they're the elderly with one or more comorbidity and vaxxed. For most other people the vax has changed covid into the flu, or made them asymptomatic. Take a look at the sources in my signature from before and after the vax was introduced. You'll see that the average age or mortality has increased, and the level of comorbidity has as well. The total number, on the other hand, are way down.

Meaning that the vax is protecting all by but the most vulnerable, and even then it's offering substantial protection.

The unvaxxed, on the other hand are largely children and other young people without comorbidity, who you wouldn't expect to die from covid in the first place. Vaxxed or not.

I notice that you still aren't sourcing your claims. So, for literally everything that you said, source, please.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

You seem to be desperate not to provide a source for your chart.

Why's that?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: panoz77

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: ussmidway
My doctor highly recommends getting vaccinated, and I too haven't heard of anybody having ill effects from the vaccine.

Loads of people are getting COVID AFTER vaccinations.

Wouldn't THAT be an "ill effect"? 😧

Even the CDC has finally confessed that 42% of the fatalities due to the Omicron variant were FULLY VACCINATED individuals. LOL, some people just refuse to admit that taking this experimental poison was a mistake.

www.washingtonpost.com...
"The vaccinated made up 42 percent of fatalities in January and February during the highly contagious omicron variant’s surge, compared with 23 percent of the dead in September, the peak of the delta wave, according to nationwide data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analyzed by The Post. The data is based on the date of infection and limited to a sampling of cases in which vaccination status was known."

And that's based on skewed data. In other countries its 90% of the population.

Yes, and if you understood statistics you'd realize that this shows that the vax is extremely effective.

Take a look at who the people are dying actually are. They're not the young and vaxxed, or the middle aged and vaxed, they're the elderly with one or more comorbidity and vaxxed. For most other people the vax has changed covid into the flu, or made them asymptomatic. Take a look at the sources in my signature from before and after the vax was introduced. You'll see that the average age or mortality has increased, and the level of comorbidity has as well. The total number, on the other hand, are way down.

Meaning that the vax is protecting all by but the most vulnerable, and even then it's offering substantial protection.

The unvaxxed, on the other hand are largely children and other young people without comorbidity, who you wouldn't expect to die from covid in the first place. Vaxxed or not.

I notice that you still aren't sourcing your claims. So, for literally everything that you said, source, please.

It's not effective, all cause mortality is up 40% and more people died in 2021 than 2020. If it even worked 5% that wouldn't be the case. But keep drinking the kool-aid.

The vaccines DON'T WORK

Kanada is getting what it asked for when it fell for the nostalgic vote. Poor leadership. Swiped rights. Swiped bank accounts. Thought police. Mask mandates. Vax mandates. Protracted lockdowns. Booster mandates, etc, etc

The majority of Kanada is under mind control.

Meanwhile, I've stepped over no bodies in 3 years. Just masks. Countless masks.

a reply to: BiffTannen

Seems to be working here in the UK.

Yeah, I know, Gov stats but deal with it.

The vaxxed aren't dropping like flies, either:

coronavirus.data.gov.uk...

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: panoz77

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: ussmidway
My doctor highly recommends getting vaccinated, and I too haven't heard of anybody having ill effects from the vaccine.

Loads of people are getting COVID AFTER vaccinations.

Wouldn't THAT be an "ill effect"? 😧

Even the CDC has finally confessed that 42% of the fatalities due to the Omicron variant were FULLY VACCINATED individuals. LOL, some people just refuse to admit that taking this experimental poison was a mistake.

www.washingtonpost.com...
"The vaccinated made up 42 percent of fatalities in January and February during the highly contagious omicron variant’s surge, compared with 23 percent of the dead in September, the peak of the delta wave, according to nationwide data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analyzed by The Post. The data is based on the date of infection and limited to a sampling of cases in which vaccination status was known."

And that's based on skewed data. In other countries its 90% of the population.

Yes, and if you understood statistics you'd realize that this shows that the vax is extremely effective.

Take a look at who the people are dying actually are. They're not the young and vaxxed, or the middle aged and vaxed, they're the elderly with one or more comorbidity and vaxxed. For most other people the vax has changed covid into the flu, or made them asymptomatic. Take a look at the sources in my signature from before and after the vax was introduced. You'll see that the average age or mortality has increased, and the level of comorbidity has as well. The total number, on the other hand, are way down.

Meaning that the vax is protecting all by but the most vulnerable, and even then it's offering substantial protection.

The unvaxxed, on the other hand are largely children and other young people without comorbidity, who you wouldn't expect to die from covid in the first place. Vaxxed or not.

I notice that you still aren't sourcing your claims. So, for literally everything that you said, source, please.

It's not effective, all cause mortality is up 40% and more people died in 2021 than 2020. If it even worked 5% that wouldn't be the case. But keep drinking the kool-aid.

And if you understood statistics you'd know that everything that you said just proves that it's effective.

First of all, mortality isn't up 40 percent across the board. If it was it would be absolutely impossible to cover up, it would means multiple of millions of people dead. The equivalent of setting off a small nuclear bomb ever couple of months. Mortality is only up in specific categories, and these were cherrypicked to make it seem like it was a representative trend. So in reality we're not talking about an apocalyptic increase at all.

Secondly, this isn't a new trend, it's been observed since 2010. Which significantly predates the pandemic. Here's some light reading for you Link, and this link, and this link, explaining what is happening and why we're seeing the trends that we're seeing.

Lastly, it's actually effecting some of the least vaxxed people the most. Namely the young and the middle aged. The elderly who are dying are just that, elderly, and they typically have one or more comorbidity. The vax won't stop and 85 year old with diabetes and hypertension from having a heart attack on the golf course.

Far from being caused by the vax, this trend is primarily being caused by poverty. Pre-pandemic, over 2 decades before the vax was a thing, mortality rates began rising among the young and the middle aged in low socio-economic groups. Poor diet and a bad lifestyle was causing obesity, hypertension, diabetes, and similar things in younger and younger people. Other deaths were attributable to rises in alcohol and drug use (You may have heard of the Opioid crisis), as well as increased rates of suicide among men.

We also saw slight increase in the lives of the elderly, in part due to lower levels of smoking.

You're also not going to like this much, but ... Covid also played a big part in the last couple of years. People survived covid, but never fully recovered, so they died from heart disease, lung disease and renal failure, exasperated by covid (See previous links).

Now, I've put forward an argument, and cited my sources.

Are you going to put forward a counter argument with equally solid sources, or are you going to ask me if Brandon is paying me to write this?

originally posted by: BiffTannen
The vaccines DON'T WORK

Kanada is getting what it asked for when it fell for the nostalgic vote. Poor leadership. Swiped rights. Swiped bank accounts. Thought police. Mask mandates. Vax mandates. Protracted lockdowns. Booster mandates, etc, etc

The majority of Kanada is under mind control.

Meanwhile, I've stepped over no bodies in 3 years. Just masks. Countless masks.

Lots of masks, but no bodies?

Either somebody is stealing all of the bodies, or the masks are effective.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: ussmidway
My doctor highly recommends getting vaccinated, and I too haven't heard of anybody having ill effects from the vaccine.

Does everyone report their health issues to you? Would they assume any health issue isn't related to the vaccine ?

I think a lot can be missed though. A friend of mine suddenly developed a severe allergy to dogs (hospital visits the reactions were so bad). This started for her a year ago, right around the time of the vaccine. She will never make the connection. The doctors will say, "Oh dog Allergy, here's your epi pen!" and they will never make the connection. But allergies are a side effect of many vaccines. It makes 100% sense, since allergies are a form of autoimmune disease, and vaccines are forcing your body to react to something. The studies exist to support this, but no one will report them, the CDC/FDA/GOV/pharma drones happily ignore them, and no one is any wiser.

So do we KNOW my friend's allergy started from the vaccine? No. Do I suspect it? Sure.

Another side effect is high blood pressure, specifically from the covid vaccine. My sister has that effect. Do I even bother to mention it to her? Nope. Won't do any good.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: BiffTannen

Seems to be working here in the UK.

Yeah, I know, Gov stats but deal with it.

The vaxxed aren't dropping like flies, either:

coronavirus.data.gov.uk...

Really? This laughable "fact check".

www.reuters.com... cines-idUSL1N2Z10I3

"Data used in the graph comes from the Office for National Statistics (ONS). It reveals that, during April and May of this year, 4,647 vaccinated people died with COVID-19, compared to 288 unvaccinated people – or roughly 94% and 6% respectively.

However, as previously reported by Reuters Fact Check, it is misleading to claim these figures show vaccinated individuals are more likely to die with COVID-19 than the unvaccinated."

Notice, they only claim that the percentages are "misleading". But the numbers of deaths are accurate. So let's just talk about the deaths. If the vaccination was effective in the UK, in only two months time, there were 4,647 VACCINATED people who died from COVID. That is a HUGE number of deaths of vaccinated people in the UK, does that sound like an effective vaccine?

Remember we were told:

Phase 1 BS: If you get the jab you can't catch COVID. FALSE
Phase 2 BS: If you get the jab, you might catch COVID but you won't get very sick, you can't spread it to others, you won't be hospitalized and you definitely won't die. FALSE
Phase 3 BS: If you get the jab, you might catch COVID and you probably can spread it to others, but you won't be hospitalized and you definitely won't die. FALSE
Phase 4 BS: If you get the jab, you might catch COVID and you probably can spread it to others and you might have to be in the hospital but you definitely won't die. FALSE
Phase 5 BS: If you get the jab, you might catch COVID and you probably can spread it to others and you might have to be in the hospital and you know the rest (many many are dying who are FULLY VACCINATED as proved above). FALSE

a reply to: panoz77

Statistics not your strong point?

It's UK data.

COVID cases are falling here.

Period.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0
For those who haven't figured it out yet..
vaccinated

I have had all three jabs, the latest last November. I have decided that I won’t be having another, unless something significant changes.

I believe they do more harm than good. The mRNA ones.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: panoz77

Statistics not your strong point?

It's UK data.

COVID cases are falling here.

Period.

Raw numbers work, takes out the manipulation that can make percentages seem skewed. US has the same trends for Omicron that are seen in UK, thousands of FULLY VACCINATED persons dead within a short couple of months of omicron variant. VAX = EPIC FAIL

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: panoz77

Statistics not your strong point?

It's UK data.

COVID cases are falling here.

Period.

Are thousands of FULLY VACCINATED persons dying too hard for you to comprehend? VAX = .GOV SAYS NO DIE = EPIC FAIL

a reply to: panoz77

But, no. Not happening here.

a reply to: panoz77

No.

And stop shouting in capitals. It doesn't make you more credible.

Try addressing my point instead?

a reply to: panoz77

You fail to comprehend that COVID cases here are falling.

But keep shouting.

originally posted by: Axios


I feel that the very few outspoken individuals in the medical community had some sort of agenda to push that got them paid, with the exception of Robert Malone, perhaps. Dr. Malone has actually changed his story over the last year or so it seems.

And you think they were the only ones who had an agenda?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
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Lastly, it's actually effecting some of the least vaxxed people the most. Namely the young and the middle aged. The elderly who are dying are just that, elderly, and they typically have one or more comorbidity. The vax won't stop and 85 year old with diabetes and hypertension from having a heart attack on the golf course.

You forgot to mention the 85 year old must also have Covid.

Because it was probably the Covid that killed him, right?

originally posted by: panoz77


Really? This laughable "fact check".

www.reuters.com... cines-idUSL1N2Z10I3

"Data used in the graph comes from the Office for National Statistics (ONS). It reveals that, during April and May of this year, 4,647 vaccinated people died with COVID-19, compared to 288 unvaccinated people – or roughly 94% and 6% respectively.

However, as previously reported by Reuters Fact Check, it is misleading to claim these figures show vaccinated individuals are more likely to die with COVID-19 than the unvaccinated."

Notice, they only claim that the percentages are "misleading". But the numbers of deaths are accurate. So let's just talk about the deaths. If the vaccination was effective in the UK, in only two months time, there were 4,647 VACCINATED people who died from COVID. That is a HUGE number of deaths of vaccinated people in the UK, does that sound like an effective vaccine?

It is a pretty high number. But it's only fair to point out that pretty near 100% of the people who Covid can kill, did vax.

What is annoying is that, rather than do some footwork to adjust the statistic to take into account the frequency of risk factors in the vaxxed group, they just apply the "misleading" label.

It's lazy as hell.

Most likely, a high percentage of people who just so happen to have Covid are dying from a "comorbidity" like Heart Disease. For reference: Heart disease killed ~2% of all those who had it in 2019 (prior to the arrival of Covid). Whereas Covid only kills about 0.5%.