Are You As Enthusiastic About The COVID Vaccines As You Were Last Year?

a reply to: wasobservingquietly

I have a good relationship with my GP and he too advised me against the shot, in his words "you're a young healthy man, why do you need the vaccine?"

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

You should be happy with ambivalence, even that's rare for me.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Your source is Pfizer, got a link?

Flew over your head..

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Well, I took you at your word.

My mistake.

If it wasn’t an IQ test before it certainly is now. Also an “honesty” test—-because we all know some of the die-hard proponents will dissemble and hold the line publicly while privately passing on more shots.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Covers the period (1966-2004)

expose-news.com...

List of athlete deaths covering the period January 2021 - April 2022. I don't have time to check each individual case but i did take a random selection of 10 and all of them are confirmed by news reports.

That Pubmed article did not attempt to determine and did not present a number of athlete deaths per 100,000 for the period studied. Cases per 100,000 of population is pretty standard practice for reporting the incidence of public health issues because it allows you to directly compare the result of one study to the results from another. If you read the original study article you will see they were not attempting to determine how common sudden cardiac deaths are in athletes, they were trying to figure out how to screen out the high risk athletes who have pre-existing cardiac problems that could lead to death.

The Expose article likewise does not attempt to determine and did not quote the number of athlete deaths per 100,000; it simply lists the total number of athletes whose names they happened to look up during the period in question. They provide no information at all about how big the population was from which they grabbed those names because they almost certainly don't know, except for the obvious fact that the names come from all over the world. Therefore, there is no information at all in the Expose article about how many cases per 100,000 that would work out to, compared to the worldwide average or to the number in 2006.

Comparing the number of cases of something selected from a population of completely undetermined size to the number of cases of the same thing selected from another population of completely undetermined size is meaningless and embarrassingly stupid, if it was done unintentionally. It would get you flunked out of a freshman course in statistics.

a reply to: The GUT

Honesty, when applied to certain posters with a full time history of posting constantly their agenda, appears to be somewhat lacking.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

We knew from early on that the mortality rate was about 1.3 percent.

Do you know what 1.3 percent of the American population is?

you and about 42 thousand of your closest friends?

I haven’t met anyone who has had a severe reaction to either the virus or shot clot.

Perhaps one was a placebo and the other was the flu? It’s always been my suspicion that the answer is yes.

The whole plandemic was a giant smokescreen, so, ignoring everything virally related, what has been going on since Trump jigged up the clot shot hype and added his legitimacy to the fable?

Not only on the cotus but, seeing as Trump did some jet setting, globally. A lot of card shuffling has been going on and we have been distracted from it constantly and with wilful intent.

To answer your question, my misanthropist attitude hasn’t changed by any appreciable amount.

Thanks for asking I like your topic.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Only two pages in and there seems to be a lot of excuses.

I never got the covid shot and never plan on getting it. Apparently I've never had covid either which I find incredibly ridiculous. I've been tested and tested and not once have I ever shown to be covid positive or had any of the antibodies present related to sars-cov-2.

This is despite the fact I spent more than enough time in close quarters with multiple people who had tested positive and were spending all their time in close quarters.

I shared utensils and drinks with them. I sat next to them on the couch talking and watching TV, and a few of them I even shared a bed with.

I wanted to get it. Guess it's not going to happen.

I love how so many bandwagon vaccinators are like "No one I know suffered from anything bad or serious," yet will chalk up anyone else's experience as mereley anecdotal.

Well, congrats. How about be happy no one you know was adversely affected and also call for accountability from the pharmacuetical companies for those who were negatively impacted?

And how about we band together and hold the politicians accountable for coercing people to get it and screwing up the economy for making it next to impossible for many businesses, especially smaller ones, to stay open while they moved money around to become even richer while the majority of people suffer?

Instead yall are stuck on some playground "nuh uh" BS dividing yourselves over opinions on a vaccine.

It's okay to admit you took an experimental vaccine and having little to no reaction, and still have compassion for those who got the vaccine and did suffer from it. To do otherwise is basically turning a blind eye and saying it's not a big deal, and sucks to suck.

The point is that healthy people would have generally been fine if they didn't get the shot, but numerous young and healthy people who had a high probability of not being severely affected by the virus were coerced into getting the vaccine so they could continue to work, travel, and participate in sports and other group activities have been having serious reactions and even dying.

But nope, it's totally not because of the vaccine, they would have died anyways. Remember folks, it's better to die vaccinated than to die unvaccinated.

The way I see it, since they don't include the side effects in the 'vaccine' commercials, as they do for EVERY OTHER drug commercial, I simply will ignore them. I am a proud pureblood, as is my family, and that includes 2 nurses.
They can rot in hell.

SnrRog

I don't understand why by now no new COVID-19 vaccines of a complete different type has not been developed.
The vaccines now in use were rushed and only marginally effective..
Long term they likely will become less effective. Meaning more mandates and more deaths.

I remember having dinner with my parents and my wife, and we revealed we were denying the vax. My father got angry and kept yelling "you're STUPID" and "you'll kill us all". First time I ever told the old man to calm down as I tried to explain we'd rather wait for the facts to come from this new treatment. Well, here we are, and I'm still respectful enough to not give him a told ya so. But I'm glad my wife and I didn't take it.

The worst part is worrying for their health after vax....

a reply to: 1947boomer

Indeed, Carpy asked for the source and I provided it to him. A source and statistics which I later called disingenuous!

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

One more question: Knowing now all the risks -- including death -- due to these experimental vaccines, has anyone's opinion changed regarding mandating vaccines and forcing people to have dangerous substances injected directly into their bodies?

Yes, my opinion changed regarding mandating vaccines and forcing people. I used to think it was all about a political power grab. Now, I believe that it is something more like genocide.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Axios

And shonky sources, too.

What official government sites are shoddy sources now?
Are you so brainwashed that you never ever checked for yourself?
There are by now about 80 000 deaths directly linked visible on accredited sources such as VAERS and NHS and other European sites, but unless you get it spoonfed by your masters you just ignore it.
Fine by me btw. Nature always sorts itself out. I sleep well knowing that I don't have an experimental gene therapy in my body.
You lot tell yourself whatever makes you less scared now it's in you. It's human nature.

a reply to: incoserv

Good answer. Motive is important. Its not what I was originally thinking, but I can't argue.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Axios

And shonky sources, too.

That has always been the right wing agenda, provide sources that are less than reliable. They prefer sources that lie, twist and spin the truth. It is extremely rare that they will have a reputable source.

They cry when you refuse to believe their crap sources and call you a shill but the fact remains they have a history of crap sources.