VIDEO - "Unresponsive" Ann Heche fights her way out of Body Bag

originally posted by: XL5
a reply to: Boadicea

The video with her car speeding down the road was taken from 1333 Preston Way (LA-Cali), she was heading NE.

Okay... but whoa! So she wasn't traveling on Walgrove??? And if I'm following your directions correctly, she was coming from theSW (probably the Penmar Apartments) on Preston towards Walgrove... that makes more sense in terms of directions.

So she when she reached Walgrove she basically flew across the road and into the house at the T-intersection of Walgrove and Preston. To get up to 90mph, I would think she would have had to floor it all the way from Penmar.

Hmmm... that's very different than what I got from news reports... very intriguing.

Thank you!

a reply to: Boadicea

No problem. I used Google maps with the satellite and street view along with youtube vids.

a reply to: XL5

Well all I can say is good job! I tip my tinfoil hat to you!!!


But so many more questions now... I'll have to think on this for a while.

a reply to: jarsue97

Yes, it has been already brought up by another member as the thread progressed, that's why it's always a good idea to read a thread completely before one jumps to gun

a reply to: Boadicea

I only watched the helicopter video and the one from the surveillance camera. I didn't say it was curved, but I could not tell from the angle and or maybe lens distortion (fisheye like my gopro for example).

Thank you for you input as a local / someone who knows this place. Makes the sound of that surveillance camera video even more suspicious.

I since then saw pictures of the rim, these are not the standard height side walls but no racing tires or semi slicks either. They are very forgiving in terms of sideways movement. And that car has not enough HP in it's maximum series stage from the manufacturer to have spinning tires. That's why I think there is something wonky with the sound.

So, do we have an explanation as to why she was naked? The "EKG sensors" theory doesn't wash. They would just need to open or pull up her shirt for that. They wouldn't even need to remove her bra (assuming she was wearing one). The only time I've even heard of paramedics stripping someone completely naked was back during the anthrax scare in 2001, and even then it was mainly a tactic to stop idiots from freaking out and calling 911 any time they came in contact with any kind of white powder (which invariably turned out to be sugar/flour/coffee creamer that someone had spilled).

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

It is all strange. She does not look like someone who was in a fiery crash...or someone moving like that with a fractured sternum. Even if she was zooted on coke or something she would be in extreme pain.

Actor Anne Heche died from inhalation injury and burns after her fiery car crash and the death was ruled an accident, according to coroner’s results released Wednesday.

Heche, 53, also had a fractured sternum caused by “blunt trauma,” according to information on the website of the Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroner.

a reply to: TDDAgain

My husband thought there was something wonky too... although he didn't use that term. We watched a couple different videos. In one video in particular he thought there was a sustained metal-on-metal noise he couldn't make sense of.

Nor did he think that vehicle was capable of hitting 90 in that stretch. And this is when we thought she was traveling Walgrove. Preston is an even shorter stretch.

Very weird.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

replySo, do we have an explanation as to why she was naked?

Maybe she removed it in her delirium? There has been more than one occasion I was in medical distress and stripped myself because I just couldn't bear any clothing. She may have felt the same.

They wouldn't even need to remove her bra (assuming she was wearing one).

It doesn't look like she was wearing one in the pic at the apartments.

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

It is all strange. She does not look like someone who was in a fiery crash...or someone moving like that with a fractured sternum. Even if she was zooted on coke or something she would be in extreme pain.

Actor Anne Heche died from inhalation injury and burns after her fiery car crash and the death was ruled an accident, according to coroner’s results released Wednesday.

Heche, 53, also had a fractured sternum caused by “blunt trauma,” according to information on the website of the Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroner.

In the video used by the source material she is under a burn blanket so if that doesn't count then what should someone who was in a fiery crash look like?

a reply to: Boadicea

Depends on what model of Mini Cooper, the S and JCW models are fast as heck. However on that note, the gas pedal is “fly by wire” so to speak. So electronically speaking it could be possible to error signal full WOT to ecu. But there’s got to be a fail safe?

Edit: the video of her in the stretcher is a bit creepy.

originally posted by: 38181
a reply to: Boadicea

Depends on what model of Mini Cooper, the S and JCW models are fast as heck.

Good to know. I kinda like the Mini Coopers...

However on that note, the gas pedal is “fly by wire” so to speak. So electronically speaking it could be possible to error signal full WOT to ecu.

It would also seem -- saying this with my best tinfoil hat setting on my purty head -- that also means the vehicle could be hijacked and controlled remotely...

But there’s got to be a fail safe?

One would think so and hope so.

Have there been any reports of witnesses seeing her going past? If she seemed Panicked? Passed out? Anything?

Edit: the video of her in the stretcher is a bit creepy.

I have to confess I didn't watch it. I don't watch anything I can't unsee if I'm not sure I want to see it at all. I'm a coward. It is what it is!

a reply to: 38181

Are they all wheel, front, wheel or rear wheel drive?

If front wheel only and the throttle was punched to the max could the squeal be from the rear tires if the breaks are applied?

Also would explain a fire as the front breaks would be smoking hot.

Spitballing here but thought I’d ask.

It's clearly not a body bag. Anyone who has witnessed death will tell you that people do not die calm, usually, there is a lot of flailing. Brain dead or not, I've seen vegetables sit up gasping for air before they died after years of basically being comatose.

I worked in nursing for decades.

Deny Ignorance.

originally posted by: TDDAgain
a reply to: VierEyes

How comes she's alive and activating her muscles in a coordinated way when she was declared braindead before? If she was not brain dead before, at what point did it happen because sure as hell she looks agile enough.

Most likely the swelling on and around her brain didn't fully set in for hours.

The extraction was in an awkward place so she was probably strapped down to move her around.

The drugs were probably still making her go.

But I still find it an extremely strange situation.

originally posted by: BelleEpoque

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: TDDAgain

Now watch the video, the road she shoots by that the camera is filming, someone with good knowledge where this happened may have to verify this, is not really a curve.

I know this area very very well. I'm not sure what video you watched or which street appeared to curve, but I can assure you that there are no curved streets in that immediate area.

Hillary Clinton owns the patent for accessing vehicles by remote control. I know this because the information came out when Paul Walker's car crashed. I said it to a friend who is a retired patent attorney and is always angry at me for my truther views. He immediately looked it up and confirmed it.

They said she was driving 90 m/h. Even drunk that doesn't make sense.

That’s very interesting. Do you have the link so I can read it?

Terre's another possible. brakes fully applied but insufficient to halt the vehicle. car could have been tampered with/hacked remotely. a reply to: TDDAgain

originally posted by: AnalyticalDreamer
It's clearly not a body bag. Anyone who has witnessed death will tell you that people do not die calm, usually, there is a lot of flailing. Brain dead or not, I've seen vegetables sit up gasping for air before they died after years of basically being comatose.

I worked in nursing for decades.

Deny Ignorance.

She wasn’t in a body bag because she wasn’t dead.

“Heche, 53, was taken to hospital and is being treated for burns. "Anne is currently in stable condition. Her family and friends ask for your thoughts and prayers and to respect her privacy during this difficult time.". “

breakingone.com...

a reply to: texasgirl

The QRS-11 patent managed by Rose Law Firm.

The QRS-11 Gyro Chip sensor is used on commercial aircraft to rotate the antenna to receive signals from satellites for the in-flight entertainment system, radar tracking and flight controls. If the aircraft is equipped with an uninterruptible autopilot, signals can be received from a satellite to remotely fly the aircraft. The sensor provides stabilization, flight control, and guidance. It is also used in missiles, 'Unmanned Aerial Vehicles' (UAV) and other military as well as space and industrial applications. Because of the sensitive nature of its military applications, the export of the technology is regulated.

While this patent focuses on aircraft, it is written so broadly as to encompass all kinds of equipment and devices, including people, defined as ‘wet-ware‘.

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I don't want to derail this thread but Paul Walker was also going 90-100 m/h and was said to have discovered thru his involvement with relief efforts evidence connecting the Clinton Foundation to a conspiracy to illegally drug Haitians through food and medical supplies right before he died in a fatal car accident in 2013.

a reply to: stormbringercompanion

What I really want to say is, in this inverted world we live, Hillary should file a reverse class action suit against everyone who has accused her of something. If she wins we will each pay her $7.83, like we win in those suits.