VIDEO - "Unresponsive" Ann Heche fights her way out of Body Bag

a reply to: BelleEpoque

I think it’s closely related to this thread.

“Soon after founding ROWW, Walker and his team took off for Haiti in 2010.

"I'd made a few runs into Port-au-Prince and was negotiating with the army to give me baby formula, tents, extension cords ... I was hustling for everything," Walker said said of his time helping there. "Because of my travels with work and pleasure, a lot of the times disasters would strike in areas that I'd been. You think of the faces -- they might not be people you're in contact with but you can't help but wonder how that family was you had dinner with."“

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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
So, do we have an explanation as to why she was naked?

In the photo stills, you can clearly see she is wearing some kind of tan 'slip' type article of clothing.

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: 38181

Are they all wheel, front, wheel or rear wheel drive?

If front wheel only and the throttle was punched to the max could the squeal be from the rear tires if the breaks are applied?

Also would explain a fire as the front breaks would be smoking hot.

Spitballing here but thought I’d ask.

I’m not familiar with the larger Mini Coops ie countryman, but the ones I’m familiar with are all front wheel drive. The JCW my buddy has is a 6 speed manual and a hand operated E brake. Poor man’s Porsche.

It looks like a beige/tan tank top. She was also wearing jeans.

The whole thing feels weird to me. Other videos show her being wheeled through the bushes after the fire was put out on the house and the car. I didn’t see any smoke, steam or smoldering embers from the house. Almost like it was an old accident scene.

There’s also the car. It’s burnt to a crisp but I’m not seeing any smoke coming from it as they wheel her away. If it took an hour to free her then why wasn’t she burned all over?

So this lady tries to expose the child trafficking network and gets murdered, yet Donald can go out in public and run his mouth off about it, it's all okay. He goes out in public acting like a bafoon talking about taking down the deep state with no obvious fear of getting whacked like JFK did. #controlledopposition

a reply to: Aeris420

Kindly leave Donald Trump out of this thread, thanks.

originally posted by: underpass61
Probably just bad luck, but this is the second former girlfriend of Ellen Degeneres to die in a car crash -

LINK

The Star Whackers got her.

a reply to: stormbringercompanion

Could, could, could.

First of all, my post was not about the final seconds of the accident but the surveillance video part.

Before I got sick, I did regular engine repairs and modifications via contract under BMW. The internals and also ECU and every other control unit involved. The car she drove was a BMW / Mini Clubman.

AFAIK there is no way to "hack" these remotely. You also need to do special steps to even access the main ECU and it can't be driving during that. The only way would have been a pre-hacked version or a modified version with an antenna that allows access and that would mean half a day work at least plus a lot of headache. This isn't something you can do remotely or without notice, because you need physical access to the keys too and marriage main ECU and the rest of the control units.

I am not saying it is absolutely not possible because you could indeed, maybe, with a lot of time and money, tamper with ESC or ABS system that has access to the brake system. But let's face it, she over sped and lost control.

I know this is a conspiracy forum, so go at it if you think you have to but as a professional I tell you she crashed because she lost control and substances were in her blood. If someone wanted to "accident" her, there would be a lot of easier ways.

People slip in the shower all the time.

a reply to: 38181
Yes there is a failsafe

There are always two potentiometers inside the gas pedal, working against each other and the ECU checks if the signal is making sense, if not, it closes the throttle body and the car won't accept any input from the pedal.

It was a Clubman, there are JCW models with like 306 HP for this chassis.

Add: I forgot, also, if the electronic throttle body goes haywire, like stuck, the engine will do the same like a failing gas pedal and slowly cut off the fuel and pull back ignition timings until there is 0 load on the engine. This happens in milliseconds, to protect the engine but the ultimate goal is that the vehicle rolls out but depends on things like how the servo steering and brake pressure modifier system works, so that the car is still maneuverable in a safe manner.

This place really has gone downhill.

The guy in the OP basically made up an alternate "official story" and then presented "evidence" against it, and people here are running with it.

The disinformation has been corrected by numerous members, with links, and people are just gleefully choosing to remain ignorant.

Some of ya'll are no different than a cable news audience.

originally posted by: face23785
This place really has gone downhill.

The guy in the OP basically made up an alternate "official story" and then presented "evidence" against it, and people here are running with it.

The disinformation has been corrected by numerous members, with links, and people are just gleefully choosing to remain ignorant.

Some of ya'll are no different than a cable news audience.

It is stunning!

The amount of disingenuousness and misinformation generated on this site by members here, allowed by ATS, is a real shame.

There is this show called “Evil” (great show), in which there is an entire company that pays its employees to do this very thing.

Talk about losing the plot!

a reply to: TDDAgain

AFAIK there is no way to "hack" these remotely. You also need to do special steps to even access the main ECU and it can't be driving during that. The only way would have been a pre-hacked version or a modified version with an antenna that allows access and that would mean half a day work at least plus a lot of headache. This isn't something you can do remotely or without notice, because you need physical access to the keys too and marriage main ECU and the rest of the control units.

Thank you for posting this. I have very little knowledge or understanding of these things, so appreciate the wisdom from those who do.

Now let's just hope we don't hear that she just got her car out of the shop...

originally posted by: 3000Hard

originally posted by: face23785
This place really has gone downhill.

The guy in the OP basically made up an alternate "official story" and then presented "evidence" against it, and people here are running with it.

The disinformation has been corrected by numerous members, with links, and people are just gleefully choosing to remain ignorant.

Some of ya'll are no different than a cable news audience.

It is stunning!

The amount of disingenuousness and misinformation generated on this site by members here, allowed by ATS, is a real shame.

I don't see a problem with ATS allowing it.

a reply to: 3000Hard

...allowed by ATS...

Allowed? Really? That's where you want to go?

Well... no. In fact, not just no, but HELL NO!!! People say lots of things -- good, bad and stupid. Have your say, share your thoughts, say what you will, and give others the same respect. Everyone's words will stand on their own merit.

Just for kicks and giggles, who, pray tell, should be determining what we ATSers are allowed to say? Who is the all-knowing and all-seeing being qualified to police our thoughts and words?

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: 3000Hard

originally posted by: face23785
This place really has gone downhill.

The guy in the OP basically made up an alternate "official story" and then presented "evidence" against it, and people here are running with it.

The disinformation has been corrected by numerous members, with links, and people are just gleefully choosing to remain ignorant.

Some of ya'll are no different than a cable news audience.

It is stunning!

The amount of disingenuousness and misinformation generated on this site by members here, allowed by ATS, is a real shame.

I don't see a problem with ATS allowing it.

I don’t disagree.

Cartesia was right:

“Unfortunately they chose "Deny Ignorance".
Denying ignorance, means literally, to say one is not ignorant. To deny does not say you are making any effort to change, or make any statement about truth - it just says you do not accept - in this case - you do not accept ignorance.” - January 28, 2013

I agree this is what happened. It happens frequently enough, no need to conspiracize it.

Doctors, nurses, medics, sometimes the patient might say a word or full on sentences, then they’re gone.

Also she was drunk and speeding. The alcohol may have played a part in the unusual not voluntary movements.

I would have rolled off and ran, exact opposite of what she did and the last few seconds seemed like she was giving up.

originally posted by: texasgirl
The whole thing feels weird to me. Other videos show her being wheeled through the bushes after the fire was put out on the house and the car. I didn’t see any smoke, steam or smoldering embers from the house. Almost like it was an old accident scene.

There’s also the car. It’s burnt to a crisp but I’m not seeing any smoke coming from it as they wheel her away. If it took an hour to free her then why wasn’t she burned all over?

" Almost like it was an old accident scene. "
"There’s also the car. It’s burnt to a crisp but I’m not seeing any smoke coming from it as they wheel her away. If it took an hour to free her then why wasn’t she burned all over?

That is because at that point everything was already extinguished. The car was removed and liftedpulled back from the house once the fire was out. That isn't the same as seeing engulfed in the house.
It did not take hour to free her but rather 65 minutes to control the fire. Please show me where or what site is reporting it took an hour to rescue her because nothing has said that so far.

Fifty-nine Firefighters took 65 minutes to access, confine and fully extinguish the stubborn flames within the heavily damaged structure,” said Brian Humphrey of the Los Angeles Fire Department.

deadline.com...

So far in this thread there are claims she was in a body bag which were proven false, claims she is naked which are proven false, claims she was dead which was proven false, claims she was burned alive which were proven false. More often then not in life, regardless of if some people want everything to be a conspiracy, facts tells the story.

This article has photos which gives those facts and they continue to show she was not in a body bag or that she was not naked. www.dailymail.co.uk...

a reply to: opethPA

If it took 65 minutes to control the fire (but not get Anne out of the car) then why did they wait so long to wheel her to the ambulance? You mean they just left her on the stretcher while they worked on the fire? 🤦🏼‍♀️

The fire was already extinguished when she was loaded into the ambulance.

Also, if she was severely burned then why did the fireman on the right grab her arm after she burst out of the sheet? And without gloves, no less!