Seriously - Why are you so afraid of everything and everyone?

a reply to: FyreByrd
What a weird question.

I'll answer honestly from your assumed position of me being fearful/hateful... Ok? Putting on fearful hat now....

The Government- Perhaps caused by genocidal behaviours worldwide throughout history and that they are still powerful. Seems obvious. Trudeau also said the unvaccinated were "extremists, racists, misogynists" but it would be hateful to question this? Hmmm...

Members of the Democratic Party- Canadian here but all my left leaning friends went full tilt stupid over the pandemic and brayed like donkeys over "science." Pardon my lack of trademark. Suddenly questioning "science" was terribly unfashionable. My confusion over this led to great frustration and yes I was angry/hateful.

Immigrants-This is so confusing as I'm an immigrant and because I am trying to balance my understanding of immigration due to need versus immigration due to wealth I may not have a great answer. Those who come in need tend to slot in just fine. Those who come with wealth are just another master with a whip in hand.

Women - I'm probably biologically female, though not a biologist so can't be totally sure. You could perhaps ask a transwoman who has some left over male authority, and is more female than I, to elaborate. Being female, I simply cannot say.

Blacks - I have the some sort of discomfort around any group of people I don't know regardless of colour and part of it is the inability to communicate easily. It could be accent or language too. Even young people speak using words I'm unfamiliar with and this signifies that I'm not one of them. It could be white people speaking a different language too, I still feel apart from them and maybe this is what is called racist nowadays. But then again, it's apparently transphobic to not want to date a trans person. Modern problems. But I'd date a black person if they were the right person.

Browns- My nephews are Kenyan brown and since I'm not allowed to travel, being unvaccinated, I miss them a lot. I hate the way society is segregated but browns had nothing to do with it. Well, maybe Obama, also a Kenyan brown.

Muslims- I bought a bed from a lovely muslim woman and waited til after Ramadan to pick it up. Likely, she would have done the same courtesy for me on christmas if it were the other way around. Muslim hate is so 2001.

Teachers- In some ways that's a personal beef I've had over the years with a few pervy grade school teachers but in general they're ok. My bro is teacher. He said my comparison of the way the unvaccinated were treated, to that of the nazi roll out of hate was close to anti-semitic. It made me cry. Now I'm mildly cautious of teachers.

Union Members- Hell hath no fury like a union member spurned but really I just don't like the unions, not the members. Reason is because they were set up back in the day to protect bottom of the barrel workers, which is great, and today they are a closed club who protect their own... all fine, except there are so many non union workers still getting the shaft from employers with no protection and no one seems to care. Certainly not unions. They are dated. Idea was fine at the time as a buffer and to work as a go between with the government.

a reply to: FyreByrd

Am I a threat to you.

Yeah I just went an locked my doors!

originally posted by: FyreByrd
I expect to get a lot of I'm not afraid of anything responses but I am truly curious about why your are so afraid (or hate):

The Government
Members of the Democratic Party
Immigrants
Women
Blacks
Browns
Muslims
Teachers
Union Members
and the list goes on.

I am truly curious about why you are afraid of theses things?

Will you feel safe if everyone thinks and acts and likes the same things you do?

I just don't understand this need for conformity to feel safe.

Help a person out here.

Well, let's see ...

The Government - can kill me on a whim, or by mistake, and suffer zero consequences for doing so. I think that's a legitimate concern.

Members of the Democratic Party - large groups of stupid people are always a legitimate concern. Especially when that group is focused on taking away my property and my rights.

Immigrants - I have no fear of anyone who has gone through the proper channels to become US citizens and contribute to our society. Gangbangers, Human Traffickers, Drug Pushers, Terrorists, and other assorted criminals are another matter.

Women, Blacks, Browns, Muslims, Teachers, Union Members - Not a lot of fear there.
With the possible exception of some women. Once, I saw a woman so beautiful I thought to myself, "If she asked me to murder her husband so she could inherit his fortune and I spend the rest of my life in jail, I'd volunteer to pick up her dry cleaning on the way." That was a scary thought.


Perhaps you can explain why you are afraid of ...

White People
Nationalists
Guns (unless they are in Government hands)
Obscure viruses that kill only a fraction of a percent of those infected
Climate Change
People who choose not to take experimental drugs
"Misinformation"
Russians
North Koreans
Iranians
People having rights that the Government can't take away
"Mean" social media posts
Basically, anything the MSM tells you to be afraid of

a reply to: FyreByrd

Ooops, I must have clicked on Democratic Underground.

a reply to: FyreByrd

Exactly, conformity can come at the expense of authenticity. There are times when it aligns because it can be authentic to conform. Other times, conformity destroys authenticity. I've experienced both of these many times in my life. I care about others and society's well being, yet sometimes who I am conflicts with society, or the group.

It's tough to know the balance, though it's not tough to see it's out of balance, as in these times.ive noticed three ways to conform these days. Either side with an extreme or remain silent.

I've destroyed my authenticity over the past few years by remaining silent. Now I speak out against the outrageous behaviors of the left and right extremes, at times ostracizing myself from the silent middle that most represents my belief system. I'm not evangelical about it, lest I become an extreme centrist but I can no longer remian silent as both political sides wedge us apart.

a reply to: FyreByrd
Fear is your label , not mine. That's what you see, not what I see.

originally posted by: FyreByrd
a reply to: Iamonlyhuman


I agree and have been refining my question. My intent is understanding. And some responses have been helpful for my understanding of the question I'm posing. They have not answered the question as directly and personally.

I feel this pull to generalize and blame my fear on certain groups as well and try very hard not to nurture my biases.

I do have them, that is why I post on this site at all, to meet my biases head on and see them as people not as objects of threat.

It's all a process, not static.

Both sides of the political spectrum are biased and that will never change - nor should it really - it's why there are different political parties! Individual bias stems from individual experiences - whether situational or learned - that form the basis of each bias and each person has a different set of experiences. Bias shouldn't necessarily be looked at as "something to fix", it's not necessarily a negative thing. However, SOME biases are hurtful and those are the ones that should be thoughtfully evaluated.

For example, in your OP, you implied that all of ATS as a group were afraid (fearful) of the things you listed. The words Fear, Hate or Safety being used 5 times in 4 sentences. Your implication that everyone on ATS has the same mindset and is fearful is actually insulting. You may or may not have intended it to be so but the effect is the same.

I am choosing to take you at your word that you are not trolling and only because of that am willing to engage you. However, I can only tell you MY thoughts on each subject as they come from MY personal experiences and background. Your emphasis on groups of people concerns me though because I don't think of people in terms of membership in a particular group based on sex, skin color, or any other factor. People are different and, to my thinking, we should embrace those differences.

The Government - I believe everyone is corruptible and that most politicians and high level bureaucrats have been corrupted. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. That is why I will always support and uphold the Constitution. With it's checks and balances, it's the best thing we have to protect citizens against overreach. The less government there is the better!

Members of the Democratic Party - In the past, the Democrat Party was much different than it is now and, in the past, I've been known to vote for Democrats. The Democrat Party has removed all traces of non-conformity and individuality from their platform. Everybody is a group to be appeased (bought) to them. I'm not sure Republicans are much better, to be honest, but, hey, the Republican economic policy is WAY better. The only person in the Democrat Party I would ever consider voting for now is Tulsi Gabbard.

Immigrants - My thoughts on Immigration Policy is that illegal immigration is unfair and hurtful to the immigrants who came to this country legally as well as to the citizens already here who will either lose services meant for U.S. citizens or see taxes increase to pay for the bigger government that more people will require. I have zero ill will towards individual immigrants themselves (whether legal or illegal) and I'm not a rat. That said, the U.S. government encouraging illegality (sanctuary cities, catch & release, etc.) is deplorable.

Women, Blacks, Browns, Muslims - In my opinion as a woman, Democrats have done more to hurt women (and blacks and browns) in the past several years than in any time in the past 40 years. Pigeon holing individual people into groups hurts the individual, perpetuates stereotypes, and in the case of blacks and browns, is racist. The figurehead of the Democrat Party, Joe Biden, truly does have racist inclinations and disgusts me. The same goes for gay and lesbian people - I feel sorry them because they have unwillingly been caught up in the whole LGBTQ+ (or whatever it is now) thing. The addition of the TQ+ is a farce. People are people. In polite society, everyone, including "straight" (or whatever it's called now), should keep their sexual preferences, desires, etc. between themselves and their partner(s).

Teachers - I'm not sure what you're after with this one. I'm not scared of teachers?

Union Members - Once again, I don't care one way or the other about Union Members. As far as Union Heads, though, see my answer on the Government. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

originally posted by: FyreByrd
a reply to: putnam6

Thank you.

I found your post comforting. I'm seeking to find gentler words for you.

I use strong and accurate words before that is what I mean. I think most generalized biases are the result of conscious or unconscious fears. Human evolution has ensured that perceived threats take precedence over reasoning. (I refer one to the Test of the Gom Jabbar in Dune by Frank Herbert).

Any change can be perceived as a threat. The unknown is a threat. When we feel unsafe (physically, mentally, spiritually) and feel threatened in some way, we lose our capacity for reason. The Neuro Science confirms this.

Enjoying the discussion here BTW, thanks it takes my mind off other stuff.

LOL no need for gentler words on my account, there was no ambiguity in my post. FWIW why are you now painting the list as "change" tell me what's changing? not to mention is this really a discussion where we are going to use principles from a science fiction novel? No wonder you use strong words and no wonder you don't understand.

The words you chose are important, isn't that something we were supposed to be learning these last few years? Certainly, you are intelligent enough to understand that others potentially would see those as inflammatory words.

I'm not concerned, afraid, scared, or hating any of those points listed, they are discussed here because the MSM makes them points of contention for some, and in a world of 7 billion people the is the potential. Few of those people will be overzealous in their thoughts and expressions about the listed points and others.

Furthermore considering ATS's actual active membership I'm not sure we can glean anything that can translate to why is it this way or why is that way from posts or threads here. We are dealing with so few data points and opinions even though we have a good international contingent. This even skews the small amount of useful data even further, as I am sure your concerns are mostly about the American response, is it not?

As we have seen in this thread it's easy to be misconstrued, IE one mans afraid is another man's interest. There are degrees it isn't all black and white. Mostly I'm just learning here I profess to not have any answers, only questions.

originally posted by: ancientlight
a reply to: FyreByrd

I'm assuming by your , very biased, 'examples' that this questions is purely aimed at 'right-wing extremists' or just 'right-wing Trumpsters' or just plain 'right-wingers' .
So, I'm also assuming that you're watching mainly 'left-wing' biased MSM (sponsored by Soros etc).

The MSM has been purposely stirring a divide between the 'left' and the 'right' , by those very examples you mentioned.

BLM, Antifa, unions , 'colleges' and 'universities' all sponsored by these same globalists who have been purposely trying to divide and to purposely destroy the US from within :

45 goals to destroy the US from within

There is no 'left' or 'right' imo. Just the 1%ers who are against us the 99%ers. Politics imo is all theater, to keep us divided.
A divided nation is easier to conquer , now we're fighting each other , instead of looking at where the fights have been purposely started : the 1%ers.

This is 100% about the 1%ers whom are fighting us , the 99%ers , as it's they feel , the only way they'll stay in power.
They are the ones who are afraid , not us . You may be afraid of whites, or of straight people, or men, or God forbid a white straight male , but these 1%ers are afraid of a UNITED 99%.

There is only the 1% and us. Some of you out there are traitorous to your own families because you think you know what is best for all of mankind which includes massive genocide of Earth's population by any means necessary to complete "the plan".

There is only about 90% who are on the short list to be eliminated by their own Ten Commandments at the GA Guidestones. I am ready for whatever, are you FB?

Remember we are UNITING not dividing when we recognize the truth of the plans in motion now and call them out on it.
Great observation ancientlight

originally posted by: FyreByrd
I expect to get a lot of I'm not afraid of anything responses but I am truly curious about why your are so afraid (or hate):

The Government
Members of the Democratic Party
Immigrants
Women
Blacks
Browns
Muslims
Teachers
Union Members
and the list goes on.

If you aren't afraid of and don't hate 70+ million voting adults in the US why are you assuming they are all, down to the Grandma who spent 2020 dutifully locked in her house with 3 vaccinations, but (eeeekkkk) failed to vote for Hillary or Biden.

Misogynists
Racists
Islamophobes
Insurrectionists
and I could go on
or as Hillary said deplorable
or as Obama said cling to their guns and Bibles
or as Biden said are not very good people

If that isn't hate I don't know what is. When you label a group of people you don't even know awful things, implying they are evil, well, how is that not hate in disguise, and not even a very good disguise.

It is my contention that anyone who can't define what a woman is has misogynistic tendencies.

Anyone who wants to erase motherhood by calling biological women chest feeding birthing people like they are cows only good for breeding are misogynistic.

It is my contention that anyone who says that a "woman with a penis" is a superior woman that biological women should aspire to be when they are declared "Women of the Year" have set a misogynistic unachievable goal biological women could never meet.

It is my contention that anyone who says "if you are black but didn't vote for me, then you are not black" implying they are an oreo, Uncle Tom, is a horrible racist. The same for the Democratic Party Congresspeople and Senators who actually openly called Tim Scott (a black Republican Senator) an oreo, Uncle Tom, Uncle Tim, token, and worse are horrible racists.

It is my contention that people who persecuted Christians during the lockdown by not even allowing them to meet in their cars in parking lots are Christophobic.

It is my contention that people who use the slur "cling to their bibles" are Christohobic.

It is my contention that anyone who did not think CHAZ was an insurrection magnitudes larger than Jan 6 is an insurrection supporter since CHAZ declared itself an independent nation in the middle of Seattle, WA, USA. By supporting CHAZ this clearly demonstrated hatred for the government especially when people openly supported not immediately removing the new nation that was attempted to be formed in the middle of Seattle, WA, USA.

It is my contention that anyone who says a specific large group of people (70+ million) are racist, sexist, Islamophobic, deplorable, insurrectionists is a bigot of the largest magnitude and their prejudice rooted in hate is very strong.

Your OP is the pot calling the kettle black.

But please keep up demanding that every conservative is the most awful, evil, terrible thing you can think of. Because if someone calls you basically an evil B and then says "You are a terrible, awful, hateful person, please vote for me." Well, what would you do?

It is not safe to vote for people who openly insist you are the worst scum on the face of the earth. So by writing something like this OP, you help Republicans and conservatives get elected. How? By reinforcing the deep and abiding loathing and hatred that is so evident even in Democratic Party leaders like Hillary, Obama, and Biden for each and every conservative or person who doesn't agree with even the smallest gospel of liberalism.

Help a person out here, why do you feel compelled to believe the most egregious things you are told by liberals and Democrats about each and every person who dares to not worship at the feet of the doctrine of the Democratic Party or agree with the manifestos of liberalism and thus failed to vote for Hillary or Biden?

a reply to: FyreByrd

I am truly curious about why you are afraid of theses things?

As no source was brought to opine on except the OP, it stand to reason that you are the one actually fearful of these things.

So, I ask, why are you afraid of:

The Government
Members of the Democratic Party
Immigrants
Women
Blacks
Browns
Muslims
Teachers
Union Members
and the list goes on.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: FyreByrd

Why do you need me to conform?

It scares it when you don’t.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: FyreByrd

So, I ask, why are you afraid of:

The Government
Members of the Democratic Party
Immigrants
Women
Blacks
Browns
Muslims
Teachers
Union Members
and the list goes on.

You’re on to something, I have multiple examples but my current favorite is my CNN-hypnotized stepmom who is always going on about uneducated redneck racists has been trying to get some repair work done for weeks and can’t find anyone. I suggested the nice hardworking “immigrants” who I’ve been using that I am quite fond of. Her reply was she was afraid to hire “Mexicans” because they might steal. The cognitive dissonance is deafening. 🤔

a reply to: The GUT

It aint easy fixing those limosines!

Nobody is afraid, most us just don't gaf.

Leave my rights alone and you can go do whatever gay # pleases you.

The Fear of the Swollen Amygdala !!!

Every time I test, my introversion rating is well into the 80%+ range. I don't hate or fear specific groups, I just am not fond of people in general and actually hate being told that I have to be other than myself in order to make them feel better about who they are.

Why are their authentic selves more important than mine?

a reply to: FyreByrd

I'm only afraid of progressives

originally posted by: FyreByrd
I expect to get a lot of I'm not afraid of anything responses but I am truly curious about why your are so afraid (or hate):

The Government
Members of the Democratic Party
Immigrants
Women
Blacks
Browns
Muslims
Teachers
Union Members
and the list goes on.

I am truly curious about why you are afraid of theses things?

Will you feel safe if everyone thinks and acts and likes the same things you do?

I just don't understand this need for conformity to feel safe.

Help a person out here.

I'm just going to point out that this is coming from the side that's afraid to use the wrong pronouns.

You may have forgotten one.
Fear of giving a straight answer. Lol

I wonder the same thing, why all the hand wringing and whining about things that really don’t bother most of the population.
I think part of the “plan” , for lack of a better term.
Is to exaggerate personal fears to the point that others begin to think that maybe there actually is something to be afraid of.
The second part of the “plan” is to offer bullsnip solutions to those problems that barely even exist.

Around these parts, thread titles often begin with the words “breaking news” or “bombshell!”

There is nothing to fear. But fear itself. Right?