The Amazon jungle is man made

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: just4fun

They depicted themselves doing everything

Not everything, they tended to not depict tombs and the dead.

except anything to do with building, carving or transporting those massive structures that had to take decades to complete

etc

You will find no construction depictions from the Maya, Olmecs, Inca, Toltecs, Indus, Mesopotamaian (various civilizations - there is one diagram of a temple thou), etc., etc., it was not common.

We have about 1/100th of 1% of their written material and about 3% of their inscriptions and art it is only a minor amount.

The amount of material from the Old Kingdom can be placed in a shoe box - with room to spare.

They would have absolutely recorded that unless they didnt build it.

Really? Well if you feel people must record stuff show me the building plans for the Pantheon in Rome. Also show me the inscriptions and depictions made by the folks you think made the pyramids? Where is there written material and depictions of them building the pyramids?

You do know any other time I would make interesting commentary about the dude looking through the surveying device like he had a * in his eye but this time I will refrain.

I never actually saw those pictures before so thanks for showing that phallus off, somewhere along the road I did read that the Egyptians did have glass technology, it is neat you see very obviously they knew how to survey a site very much like we do today.

I still would make a dick joke though.

The Amazon is a vast area, covering multiple different "zones" of habitat. While humanity may have effected some areas, nature has been the over-riding force that has created the environmental conditions for the rainforests to flourish.

It's interesting, though, that ancient civilisations once thrived in the Amazon. The question is why did they end?

It's also sad that the current irrevocable destruction of the Amazon by mankind is now so advanced that the Amazon is doomed.

Future, more informed generations, will look on this destruction as a horrendous act of vandalism.

originally posted by: just4fun

originally posted by: Brotherman

originally posted by: just4fun
a reply to: Brotherman

the claim made has nothing, NOTHING to support it. Whats next, aliens helped terraform the amazon?
Or something else happened in nature that we don't understand?

It has the layer of man made soil under it.

Thats what they have been saying for a long time. Yet this technology has never been recorded in the annals of history or has been replicated for its time anywhere else in the known world. It may in fact be man made but no one really knows if it was or not

I guess I should just trust the science right?

I guess we should just go along with every wild conspiracy every mental case on ATS fabricates in their weak, frail brains?

originally posted by: paraphi

It's interesting, though, that ancient civilisations once thrived in the Amazon. The question is why did they end?

Mostly wiped out by disease after the arrival of Europeans.

Also worth remembering that this wasn't a civilisation like the Romans or even the Aztecs - they didn't build big cities, temples or monuments - think more like a large, scattered, pastoral society.

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: paraphi

It's interesting, though, that ancient civilisations once thrived in the Amazon. The question is why did they end?

Mostly wiped out by disease after the arrival of Europeans.

Also worth remembering that this wasn't a civilisation like the Romans or even the Aztecs - they didn't build big cities, temples or monuments - think more like a large, scattered, pastoral society.

That was the civilizations after the Younger Dryas

originally posted by: just4fun

originally posted by: Brotherman
Interestingly enough there isn't a single record of any kind of language written in anything to support anything of these sorts of fantastic ideas.


yeah none

crickets.

How do you know?

There also isnt a single record of the Egyptians building the pyramids. Why wouldnt they record that.

Or they did and it was hidden long long ago

You're rather comically wrong on this on. The village where the stone mason who built the pyramids in Giza is a big tourist attraction. There are records of everything from the food they ate to when they returned home to attend religious festivals. There are also paintings of the pyramids being constructed on the gallery of the pyramids. This is on the tour.

originally posted by: AndyMayhew
Mostly wiped out by disease after the arrival of Europeans.

That's conjecture. Admittedly, I am new to this particular topic, but it seems that these civilisations were likely in genocidal decline before they were touched by European-sent disease. By the time the Conquistadores appeared, the civilisation had been swallowed up by the rain forests again.

At least, that seems to be the gist from what I have read so far. Doubtless, as archaeology et al. progresses, will uncover things better and a clearer picture will be drawn.

Maybe they created conditions ideal for their form of agriculture, but those conditions were also idea for plants they didnt intend?

So, say over 100 generations a growing population of agriculturists (of sorts) spreads top soil over an increasingly large area as they sprawl outward. Then a disease or something cuts their population down for one generation, and they retreat from some of these areas.

Jungle asserts itself in the areas they left behind, and then keeps asserting itself, pushing into the areas they still occupy as well. They try using machetes to cut it back, even fire, but it just keeps growing, taking the lands they still occupy.

Eventually, they just give up. Nature wins.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: just4fun

originally posted by: Brotherman
Interestingly enough there isn't a single record of any kind of language written in anything to support anything of these sorts of fantastic ideas.


yeah none

crickets.

How do you know?

There also isnt a single record of the Egyptians building the pyramids. Why wouldnt they record that.

Or they did and it was hidden long long ago

You're rather comically wrong on this on. The village where the stone mason who built the pyramids in Giza is a big tourist attraction. There are records of everything from the food they ate to when they returned home to attend religious festivals. There are also paintings of the pyramids being constructed on the gallery of the pyramids. This is on the tour.

LOL link please

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: just4fun

originally posted by: Brotherman
Interestingly enough there isn't a single record of any kind of language written in anything to support anything of these sorts of fantastic ideas.


yeah none

crickets.

How do you know?

There also isnt a single record of the Egyptians building the pyramids. Why wouldnt they record that.

Or they did and it was hidden long long ago

You're rather comically wrong on this on. The village where the stone mason who built the pyramids in Giza is a big tourist attraction. There are records of everything from the food they ate to when they returned home to attend religious festivals. There are also paintings of the pyramids being constructed on the gallery of the pyramids. This is on the tour.

LOL link please

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: AndyMayhew
Mostly wiped out by disease after the arrival of Europeans.

That's conjecture. Admittedly, I am new to this particular topic, but it seems that these civilisations were likely in genocidal decline before they were touched by European-sent disease. By the time the Conquistadores appeared, the civilisation had been swallowed up by the rain forests again.

At least, that seems to be the gist from what I have read so far. Doubtless, as archaeology et al. progresses, will uncover things better and a clearer picture will be drawn.

This is about the civilizations before the Comet and the Youger Dryas cataclysms

From 13000 years ago t0 50 000 years ago

People want to believe humans with the same size brain as us that have been around for 250 000 years only started being civilized 5 000 years ago


That sounds retarded

a reply to: AaarghZombies

The village where the stone mason who built the pyramids in Giza is a big tourist attraction.

One stone mason built all the pyramids in Giza? And there is a record of it?

And you think people should take you seriously on medical topics?

originally posted by: just4fun

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: just4fun

originally posted by: Brotherman
Interestingly enough there isn't a single record of any kind of language written in anything to support anything of these sorts of fantastic ideas.


yeah none

crickets.

How do you know?

There also isnt a single record of the Egyptians building the pyramids. Why wouldnt they record that.

Or they did and it was hidden long long ago

You're rather comically wrong on this on. The village where the stone mason who built the pyramids in Giza is a big tourist attraction. There are records of everything from the food they ate to when they returned home to attend religious festivals. There are also paintings of the pyramids being constructed on the gallery of the pyramids. This is on the tour.

LOL link please

It's a tourist attraction.

link

a reply to: just4fun

Mason can be both a countable and an uncountable noun.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: just4fun

Mason can be both a countable and an uncountable noun.

LOL you are not even worth discussing it.

originally posted by: just4fun

Generations it would have taken thats generations of authors and stone carvers and artists watching it get built every day of their life and yet No depictions no inscriptions

Thats sounds ridiculous

There were inscriptions in the Great Pyramid but you deny they exist.

Please show us a Greek image of them building the colossus of Rhodes, Temple of Athena or the Roman's building every building in Rome?

You've taken an utterly ridiculous position.

So, what is you opinion of the Goyon and Ginsells builders mark?

originally posted by: Mike27

Thats sounds ridiculous

The same criteria holds true for your idea.

So where's your evidence for an earlier construction?

Just a reminder, everyone leaves trash ...

It's one of the funny things in the fringe world - it is vastly vastly important that the ancient Egyptian have no drawings of them building the pyramid but at the same time they have absolutely nothing, zilch to substantiate that the invisible civilization built it.

Hilarious.

originally posted by: just4fun

Keep on believing the lies

Which tomb of a Roman emperor had a body in it?

None, so you think they didn't bury them? They said they did. Please explain.

...but its a trick question

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

Civilization leave huge masses of remains, to believe a civilization would exist in the Nile Valley for x years and build huge structures then not leave a single trace is simply not possible. Unless they were ethereal and floated around eating air.

originally posted by: Hooke

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous

Maybe they wrote on paper?

...

In fact, I think the reason why we have no good details about the building of the Great Pyramid and etc is because paper or skins or something was the preferred writing method when the GP and other big pyramids were built. ent levels.

There exist contemporary records of the people who built the GP, and transported stone for the casing, (as mentioned here).

They wrote on stone, and papyri.

(See also Reisner, Mycerinus.)

Absolutely

He rejects all evidence of everything but of course we just reject his opinions as biased statements having no value.