Spike damages heart. This is scientifically proven.

Big pharma mafia is using all the propaganda they can pay for to deflect the realities of their experimental jabs, soo they are going to bring a new generation of jabs that will target the T cells

They know the jabs can be toxic, but now they are blaming he covid virus for the increase in hart issues since the jabs were administered.

The old covid jabs and their booster are now obsolete and useless, soo get ready for the next generation of T cell targeting jabs.

a reply to: marg6043

Doesn't the latest doom porn post going around put the number of people harmed by the vax at 0.02 percent?

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Do you have any information on the new jabs that are going to be introduced? the T cells targeting ones, I just found out of these new injections.

Very interested on them, no kidding, I want to know if you can start doing these jabs and no need for any of the old spike protein ones.

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a reply to: vNex92

i'd answer you like i always have but you conservatives tend to not listen and act like no one answered you, but I'll entertain your patronizing words, it does work but its effectiveness drops over time because viruses adapt and we in turn adapt to their adaptations by making changes to the vaccine. its that simple, even natural immunity isn't forever because "life" adapts or it dies out.

originally posted by: marg6043
Big pharma mafia is using all the propaganda they can pay for to deflect the realities of their experimental jabs, soo they are going to bring a new generation of jabs that will target the T cells

They know the jabs can be toxic, but now they are blaming he covid virus for the increase in hart issues since the jabs were administered.

The old covid jabs and their booster are now obsolete and useless, soo get ready for the next generation of T cell targeting jabs.

Too bad there is a new study out that shows covid doesn't cause heart damage.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Howdy. Yep, I'm in medicine. I totally get that...but what I'm saying is doesn't anyone think that ius..me...with bad, damaged hearts...these would drop us because we have cardio, AFib, heart disease, age, other detrimental pre cond?

My family: Phizers all. 59, 69, 87 , 97..

We may be unique.....😑(really doubtful)
Peace

originally posted by: namehere
a reply to: vNex92

i'd answer you like i always have but you conservatives tend to not listen and act like no one answered you, but I'll entertain your patronizing words, it does work but its effectiveness drops over time because viruses adapt and we in turn adapt to their adaptations by making changes to the vaccine. its that simple, even natural immunity isn't forever because "life" adapts or it dies out.

Conservatives? Brett Weinstein, Peter McCullough and Peter Cory religiously read the NY Times before Covid hit, then they got red pilled hard.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

No, it makes no sense at all.

From the OP:

posted on Jul, 29 2022 @ 12:36

From your response:

posted on Jul, 29 2022 @ 12:39

Three minutes difference. The video is 37 minutes and 49 seconds long. The first three minutes are setup. You could not possibly have even watched it; I doubt you even started watching it.

In other words, you just denigrated a video without ever even watching it. For your information, this is actual medical research he is discussing, from the American Heart Association journals, "peer-reviewed" and all. You just completely made every post you have ever posted on this subject and every post you will ever post on this subject completely irrelevant. Why? Well, according to the last line of your post,

We need more anti vaxxers on here.

you did so because you want everyone to take a vaccine that is proven to not work and suspected to have serious side effects.

You're a real work of art, you are. Don't bother even trying to respond to this post; I do not care what you have to say any more, nor should anyone else.



To the OP:

Thank you! I have been saying for years that we needed to be investigating the mechanisms to find ways to either treat the effects or avoid the effects that make the Chinese virus so dangerous to select individuals. I believed the problem was the ACE-2/ACE-1 receptor ratios that the virus manipulates, and I still believe this is one part of the heart issues and the actual issue behind the post-infection pneumonia some people tend to get (the cause of most deaths from the virus).

Now I know, after watching this, that the ACE-2/ACE-1 receptor ration is not the primary heart damage mechanism. As I understood this guy, it is actually an allergic over-reaction in the heart itself, which can trigger what sounded like an almost auto-immune response that destroys the heart.

Of the potential mechanisms he mentioned, I agree with three: the ACE-2/ACE-1 receptor ratio, which we know does occur and would have some effect (although not primary in the heart), the allergic-type reaction in the heart to expressed spike proteins, and the damage to cell receptors in the smooth cardio musculature that leads to a drop in nitric oxide production. It makes sense to me that all three together could certainly cause serious heart complications.

i'm going to be considering the information he gave over the next few days... maybe I can more fully digest what he said (I wish this stuff could be put in text rather than a video). Hopefully this will lead to more effective treatment as more researchers become aware of this.

TheRedneck

Wait until the attorneys at Pfizer see this they are going to have an absolute field day with this dude.

I can not wait to see more information on the new generation of T Cell targeting jabs, how they work and why the spike protein ones are falling out of favor.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Perhaps you missed where I said I did not watch the video and would not watch such a long video without a proper summary? As is meant to be customary and expected on ATS? No?

"You did so because you want everyone to take a vaccine that is proven to not work and suspected to have serious side effects."

Where have I ever said such a thing?


"You're a real work of art, you are. Don't bother even trying to respond to this post; I do not care what you have to say any more, nor should anyone else."


I will respond to whoever I like, thank you.



Nice to see that this site values all views and opinions and does not support nasty personal attacks on posters who hold dissenting opinions. Or, apparently not.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Why do you only respond to covid threads?

Is that why you joined , 2 months after the plandemic started in the west?


It seems like that's when they hired you .

You are in Israel.

a reply to: ZokaIdris

The argument's over. I challenge the vax addicts to debunk.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Your statement is irrelevant.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Thanks. Which one? Is yours?

originally posted by: Redhead6971
Wait until the attorneys at Pfizer see this they are going to have an absolute field day with this dude.

He doesn't seem worried?

I see we keep moving the goal post.

First, I heard I was going to die immediately. At any time from the vaccine.

Then it switched to months.

Then, the leading BS was it was probably going to take "a couple:" of years or so. And NOW! Seems like we have to wait about 4 years? Really, you're telling me we have to wait that long? Why we haven't reached the two year mark yet. Why not wait until that time to move the goal post?

And let me add, no one coerced me into getting this vaccine. I did my own research and made my own decision. Like I would expect any intelligent adult would do before getting or not getting a vaccine.

And if I haven't made this perfectly clear here when it comes to vaccines, any vaccine, the let me clarify. GET ONE, DON'T GET ONE, I DON'T CARE. YOUR HEALTH IS NOT MY CONCERN, NOT MY RESPONSIBLITY, NOT MY BUSINESS.

P.S. Let me know if you move the goal post from 4 to 6 years.

a reply to: marg6043

a reply to: MiddleInsite

You poor thing, I think this affecting you mentally very much, BTW get ready the T cell jabs are coming,

a reply to: mysterioustranger

You had saline and not a hot dose. It is a trial and many placebos.
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