Victims Of Communism Museum Opens - Illuminates Murderous Ideology

Here is actually something useful and educational for a school field trip. The Victims of Communism Museum is now open. This type of material should be required learning in high school yet our colleges embrace this insanity saying that "nobody has done it right".

What is doing it right? Quadrupling the body counts? Do you want to see our future, take a look at the past.


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The Victim of Communism Museum opened on 13 July - it is dedicated to illuminating the murderous ideology of communism.

The Victims of Communism Museum is dedicated to commemorating the more than 100 million victims of Communism around the world and to those pursuing freedom from totalitarian regimes

Witness the rise of Communism, the terror of Lenin and Stalin, the growth of the tragic Gulag system, the eastward expansion of Communism, and share in the inspiring stories of those fighting against the most deadly ideology man has ever created.

There are four main exhibits: 1) The Rise of Communis 2) Stalin’s Terror 3) Miracles and Tears and 4) Remember Us.

Victims of Communism Museum Site

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Well done to those who are behind this ! I would visit , but as I feared in another state too far away ,at least for now.
Maybe more will open across the country

a reply to: infolurker

Seems very much geared towards Russia...however I would argue that communism in asia has been way worse. Maybe I am missing its but I sure hope they feature exhibits that educate people about places like china and even vietnam...especially china though as they are probably the most totalitarian communist country still practicing that form of government.

a reply to: ancientlight

The commies are still active in all democratic run cities. They might need another wing in that museum before its all said and done.
Communism is the operating system of the demonic left.

originally posted by: infolurker
This type of material should be required learning in high school yet our colleges embrace this insanity saying that "nobody has done it right".

In fact, many people have done it right, on a small, local scale, Communism works.
As a way of running a country, not really.

a reply to: infolurker

What's the kind of things that go into museum? Have we really seen the last of communism?
Propaganda in full swing?

a reply to: infolurker

Well you see I am a moderate left winger (UK politics which used to be far left of US politics but none of that woke crap or over representation of minority's or any of that just good old fashioned British Labour before the Blair years).

So I have to say there is something to that argument it was not done right BUT I also have to say that going full communist OR full capitalist is always a recipe for disaster.

A little bit of wealth redistribution in the form of Tax spent on public health, library's, education and a well ordered social safety net and old age care is in my opinion the least a modern nation should do for it's own people especially when the same guy's that say this is evil will run off to give tax cut's to the billionaires and corporations and change the laws to do so or spend billions on wars we are not even directly involved in while sending our own poor people to food bank's like the the Tory's are over here in the UK.

I draw my socialism not from Marx but from the bible.

Leave enough grain in the field for the widows and poor to glean, do not put a widow out of her home (Cancel her debt's or her dead husbands debt's) and there were even city's of sanctuary were even murderers could escape justice in a kind of open prison fashion as if they were caught outside them then they could still face the consequences.

Then there is Jesus.

Go sell all you own and give it to the poor and the needy.

If you have two coats and your brother has none go and give him the one you are not using (Share the excess don't hoard it).

Build up your treasure in heaven not on earth.

The rich have HAD there reward.

As you treat the least of these (the orphans, poor, downtrodden, the sick and the wretched) so too do you treat ME.

Though they were inspired by Marx the Labour Movement was hardly Marxism, oh they sought to control some industry especially essential industry (But so too did the Tory's and the Liberals on occasion) but due to the power of the unions back then, the infiltration by Soviet's into them and there attempt to use our union movements to destabilize our nation it all fell through in the early 1980's as the Labour movement was caught between soviet infiltrated union's and Thatchers hard right wing anti socialist government.

While we may say with truth that under Communist regimes many people almost always innocent get murdered, more suffer and it is worse than it could be under a moderate capitalist society such as a Labour government (which is better than a pure capitalist society that will buy and sell you, your organ's and enslave your children if they are not of the upper class since they need there slaves) there is a fair argument that Capitalism has killed just as many in just as short a time as Communism has.

Economics driven wars, unnecessary starvation through selling grain and potatoes that should have fed the population during a blight (you can thank both the Irish Catholic Church - Irelands biggest land owner at the time that wanted to sell the crop to make profit for the church coffers and the English right wing government of the time that believed in supply and demand and market self balancing with what they called natural wastage of the excess population - in other words let them starve - for that Irish potato famine).

The land Clearances of Scotland once again driven by Capitalism, the murder and rape of the amazon and it's indigenous tribes and of course the part played by capitalism in the longest holocaust in history that of the north American native people's in which at least 60 millions were killed not only by the disease but over the ensuing two century's of murder, rape, invasion, land theft and cultural and ethnic destruction.

Give me a good society, you will be surprised but it while not being BIG government surprisingly has a lot more in common with Communism, it is the model of Cooperative society like the kibbutz.

Now Communism IS EVIL no if's and no But's but so too is Capitalism.

But either system can and does work well in moderation and a fine balance between free capitalism with HUMAN RIGHTS of course and social rebalancing through taxation of the corporations and the elite along with appropriate protectionist measures on a society's import's which will of course cause similar restrictions on it's exports unless they are via trading partners actually work's very well indeed.

The system set up by the Labour Government in the UK for example worked perfectly for the first two generations born under it and continued to work very well after though it has been constantly attacked by our political and economic right wingers.

Why, well a state provided comprehensive health system like the ORIGINAL model of the NHS leaves no demand for the private services of the private health corporations except from a tiny ultra elite minority such as provided work for the Harley street doctors.

A State provided comprehensive pension system paid for by a wage based contribution system such as we had in the UK and which has been almost utterly destroyed by the Tory's left little or no room for private pension company's which are owned by hedge funds today to economically strip mine the working class of a nation so the Tory's once again facilitated there friends by making it law that company's had to pay into these schemes and the workers had to as well despite warning's that the whole pyramid scheme they have set up when coupled with the falling birth rate is destined no if's and no but's to collapse within one to two generations meaning many of these people will then be left in abject beggar level poverty with no state safety net and no pension.

But the US by contrast has really NEVER cared about it's poor, fine back in the early 1900's when most US citizens were self employed and corporations paid most of your nations tax AND you actually had a DEMOCRACY (Come on you don't have one now it's all paid for by the elite and you only get there selection box of crap politicians whom they own body and soul to choose from same as here these days) but not fine now that you have mega corporations, hardly any self employed any longer compared to how it used to be and there are no jobs to go around during times of economic crisis.

I suspect part of this different view is down to demographic, we in the UK All used to be ethnic Brit's, once we began to be swarmed by migrants and once drug's took hold and ungrateful foul mouthed drug addicts abused our welfare system people's attitudes changed, it was not that the welfare system was bad it was not but they had to blame something for the fact the nation was going downhill by that point and the Tory's were only too quick to stoke up that with lies and bigotry as always.

But over in the US you never had a shared identity, a nation of migrants many of whom spoke different languages, had different cultures and even looked different did not make a well integrated care for your neighbour whom is just like you kind of society, fine in neighbourhoods were everyone looked the same but not otherwise.

But there is no doubt about it full on Communism is utterly evil, anti Christian and vile.

The Communist party in China even indulged in cannibal banquettes during the cultural revolution known as flesh banquettes.

Stalin caused untold suffering and misery.

But so too did Belgium in the Congo?.

a reply to: LABTECH767

Don't get me wrong on that old age care bit, we had a history in the UK of some very evil and corrupt retirement homes and in my opinion home care is the best preferably by family whom should be subsidised by the state since after all the old person likely worked and paid there tax's all there life until they got sick and old and needed that help from there son or daughter.

We do pay something in the UK called carers allowance or we did before the Tory's tried to shove it all under one umbrella single computerized communist like scheme called universal credit but it was never enough and should have been more.

Also a pensioner should have the right to be independent but our social services were corrupt back then as well and often put old folk's into care saying they could not look after themselves, to my mind if they want to die in there own home they should have the dignity to do so and that thankfully has changed now so mostly they still can.

a reply to: infolurker

arent the isms just something to hind behind and blame when humans do bad things
cant we just admit we are evil #s sometimes and we need to seriously fix our damaged psyche

originally posted by: ancientlight
Well done to those who are behind this ! ...

The Foundation was authorized in 1993 by a unanimous Act of Congress signed as Public Law 103-199 by President William J. Clinton on December 17, 1993. On June 12, 2007, President George W. Bush dedicated the Victims of Communism Memorial statue in Washington, D.C.

Victims-of-Communism-Memorial-Foundation™.

Those behind this, are the same deceivers that are behind all Disinformation™.

Oh looky at their Neo-Con™ Think-Tanker™ who is their Chairman-of-the-Board™ :
EDWIN J. FEULNER, PH.D

Am almost afraid to see if there is a link to the WEF™ ...

... We are also grateful to the members of our Advisory
Board on Competitiveness and Sustainability, who
have provided their valuable time and knowledge to
help us develop the framework on sustainability and
competitiveness presented in this Report: James
Cameron, Chairman, Climate Change Capital; Dan Esty,
Commissioner, Connecticut Department of Energy and
Environmental Protection; Edwin J. Feulner Jr, President The Heritage Foundation, ...
Preface
KLAUS SCHWAB
Executive Chairman, World Economic Forum
© 2012 World Economic Forum

Link to WEF article. " The Global Competitiveness Report 2012–2013 ".



Why does the American-Government™ spend your money, to make sure that all citizens properly hate communism ?

Surely it can't be Propaganda™, eh ?

Maybe they're really, really telling the Truth™ this time,
and actually doing something good for their citizens ?

Anybody who feels that their Brainwashing™ and Programming™ are not up to date :
please feel free to visit Washington™ DC™, and all of their totally honest installations.

We are all supposed to totally hate Communism™, because our good Government™ tells us too.

Me : am done with all of this nonsense, and lies upon lies upon lies.

originally posted by: infolurker
Here is actually something useful and educational for a school field trip.

How many public schools today would even consider it? How many would even visit a presidential or war memorial?

Now a required protest outside the SCOTUS to get a passing grade... maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas.

Finally a museum that doesn't ooze the ideology of "You're a mutated ape. God bad."

Can't wait for the "every evil committed by comunism was because of the CIA" arguments.

When will the museum of the victims of capitalism be opened?

a reply to: infolurker

I get the feeling that there are going to be a couple of people who are going to jump in an to try to claim that I'm supporting Communism, or that I want to bring Communism to America, so I'm going to drop this in right at the start, I chose to leave a communist country for a capitalist one for some pretty solid reasons. So I'm no fan, but the people on this forum don't seem to know what communism is, or what it does, and seem to be getting their information from old movies about Soviet Russia. So there are some things that need correcting.

Speaking as someone who lived under Communism, what really needs to be done in the west is to separate "Communist ideology" from "communists revolutionaries".

Communism as a whole isn't a violent or murderous ideology. Most of the people who died due to Communism did so due to stupidity. Mostly poor economic and agricultural management leading to poverty and starvation.

Communist revolutionaries, on the other hand, tended to be murderous thugs who would compete with each other as to how extreme they could possibly be. They killed who knows how many people by putting them in camps or flat out shooting them.

Until the west figures out the differences, it's going to be extremely difficult to have a civilized or objective discussion on the subject.

our colleges embrace this insanity

No, no they don't. Some of them embrace a very lite form of socialism, but communism, no.

Colleges don't go around telling their students to collectivise the farming system or to seize the means of production. What they do do is to advocate for big government and the state provision of essential services. Which isn't communism by even the remotest stretch of the imagination. In fact it's barely even Marxism. If they supported Communism one of the first things that they would have done would be to scrap tuition fees, because free education was a cornerstone of communism.

"nobody has done it right"

So far, nobody has "gotten it right", but what does "right" actually mean? There are dozens of different types of Communism, each with their own individual definition of what "right" is. Stalin and Mao both did communism completely differently despite being neighbors and contemporaries. Communism in Vietnam was different from Communism in Cuba, and none of the above have more than a passing resemblance to French style communism.

On top of this, no country has ever been allowed to attempt to be communist without significant efforts by the west to subvert or destroy it.

Imagine what would have happened to America if - during its early years - most of the rest of the world had gotten together and deliberately tried to sabotage capitalism by flooding the US markets with subsidized goods that made manufacturing unaffordable. Would that mean that Capitalism had failed, or that there were inherent problems with free trade, or simply that the European powers wanted to take the system down?

originally posted by: AutomateThis1v2
Can't wait for the "every evil committed by comunism was because of the CIA" arguments.

Since some many things happened before the CIA existed ...

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
On top of this, no country has ever been allowed to attempt to be communist without significant efforts by the west to subvert or destroy it.

True.

Just after the Portuguese Carnation Revolution in 1974, the possibility of Portugal turning into a communist country brought some US war ships that pointed their cannons to the Portuguese parliament.

As we knew how to take care of ourselves the US ships left, but the US kept interfering whenever they could just to keep us away from communism.

a reply to: ArMaP

I did not know this and am actually disgusted at that behaviour.

Portugal is Britain's oldest ally so I wonder how that may have affected our relations with the US if they had fired on the Portuguese capital and invaded the country.

But as you know Portugal has had some very bad times and was actually as poor as the third world for a very long time with people living well below the standards found in the rest of Europe right into the 1970's.

Part of this was the harm done to the nation by it's Freemasons whom had attempted to destroy the church and state and to institute a masonic government in 1910 which of course ended in failure just as there fellow Mason's schemes in south America mostly had.
fatima.org...

It is also believed by many the 1917 Russian revolution was also actually very strongly Masonic in nature, it's anti Christian sentiment going back to well before Marx and indeed all the way back to Voltaire and his fellow probably ex Rosicrucian's whom heavily influenced much of the later Masonic movement in and around the world (Though it has to be said it varies by nation and there lodges as well and so some are actually very conservative).

At least today Portugal is once again a proud nation and also a blessed one were the persecution of people of faith actually made there faith all that much stronger.

originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
On top of this, no country has ever been allowed to attempt to be communist without significant efforts by the west to subvert or destroy it.

True.

Just after the Portuguese Carnation Revolution in 1974, the possibility of Portugal turning into a communist country brought some US war ships that pointed their cannons to the Portuguese parliament.

As we knew how to take care of ourselves the US ships left, but the US kept interfering whenever they could just to keep us away from communism.

Where I lived the West attempted to destroy the country economically. They not only brought in tough economic and financial sanctions but they sanctioned any company that didn't comply regardless of where in the world they were.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
Portugal is Britain's oldest ally so I wonder how that may have affected our relations with the US if they had fired on the Portuguese capital and invaded the country.

And that's the oldest alliance still active, since the 14th century!
I saw once a renewal of the treaty, signed by Queen Victoria, on the Portuguese Ministry of Foreign Affairs archive.

Part of this was the harm done to the nation by it's Freemasons whom had attempted to destroy the church and state and to institute a masonic government in 1910 which of course ended in failure just as there fellow Mason's schemes in south America mostly had.
fatima.org...

The biggest part was done during the dictatorship that lasted from 1926 to 1974.

PS: a commission was created in 1926 to return the stolen church properties to their rightful owners, as after the fall of the monarchy there was, as you say, an anti-church sentiment spread by part of the pro-republic politicians and that resulted in many churches being assaulted and looted.