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The Ukrainian army is murdering the Donbass children with the help & approval of the west

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posted on Jul, 16 2022 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: XipeTotex

Russia did not fare to well in their last war with Finland XipeTotex.

And the Swedish air-force will be a welcomed boon to an already vastly superior NATO combined air power.

As to the Finnish Defense Forces, active military personnel is a modest 23,000, but the country boasts a wartime strength of 280,000 if they implement conscription.

And what do you imagine gets mounted on their borders once NATO reinforces the nations?

Do you really think Russia can defend against a border twice the size it was before Finland and Sweden join NATO whilst fighting in Ukraine?

Because if you do you really should realize Russia are not the Warsaw pact nor anything reminiscent of such, in a conventional war combined NATO forces would wipe the floor with them sharpish and in no time flat.



posted on Jul, 16 2022 @ 06:28 PM
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ENOUGH!!



of the bickering and off topic one-upmanship





You are responsible for your own posts.....those who ignore that responsibility will face mod actions.


and, as always:

Do NOT reply to this post!!



posted on Jul, 16 2022 @ 09:26 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Sweden, Finland. All these countries have very small population compared to China. Sweden 10 million. Finland 5 million. China 1,400 million.



posted on Jul, 16 2022 @ 11:38 PM
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a reply to: guaman


War is not just the numbers , quality does matter also with personel and equipment, and of cource the united spirit to defend the land.

The terrain in Finland itself is nightmare for Russia .



posted on Jul, 17 2022 @ 01:46 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: XipeTotex

Russia did not fare to well in their last war with Finland XipeTotex.

And the Swedish air-force will be a welcomed boon to an already vastly superior NATO combined air power.

As to the Finnish Defense Forces, active military personnel is a modest 23,000, but the country boasts a wartime strength of 280,000 if they implement conscription.

And what do you imagine gets mounted on their borders once NATO reinforces the nations?

Do you really think Russia can defend against a border twice the size it was before Finland and Sweden join NATO whilst fighting in Ukraine?

Because if you do you really should realize Russia are not the Warsaw pact nor anything reminiscent of such, in a conventional war combined NATO forces would wipe the floor with them sharpish and in no time flat.



Did not fare to well? Finland had to pay a huge amount of war reparations + Lost important land. And tell me what will be mounted on the border? The line is a rotted picket fence surrounded by dense forests.

And with the loss of Petsamo, Finland lost its only chance at getting a piece of natural oil and gas resources. No big deal right?
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posted on Jul, 17 2022 @ 02:54 AM
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originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Grimpachi




The usual group will be sure to come by and tell you she deserved to die for invading Ukraine, Or they will say it is Russian propaganda. They may even claim that Russia did it.


And the usual group who seem to support Russia invading a soverign state, who believe all the tripe Russian media shovel as news have already started posting.


Things like this shelling wouldn't have happened if Mad Vlad had keep his troops in his own damn country, so that poor girls blood is on his hands too.
The last time i checked Donbas was part of Ukraine and wasn't Russian.



Exactly right. Putin's state media pushing the narrative as an excuse.
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posted on Jul, 17 2022 @ 02:54 AM
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a reply to: guaman

Smashing but China is not the problem but Russia's Putin.



posted on Jul, 17 2022 @ 02:56 AM
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originally posted by: spacedoubt
every child, every person, every hospital, every apartment block, every shopping mall, is blood on the hands of KaPutin.

When he surrenders or dies. The problem will begin to resolve.

At the moment it appears he is figuring to escalate.
I wish the same for his cancer and Parkinson’s.


Correct, the monster is raging.



posted on Jul, 17 2022 @ 02:57 AM
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a reply to: XipeTotex

The Russia lost approximately 200,000 men and had 600,000 wounded.

They got there arses handed to them in the snow by Finland comparatively speaking. LoL

If you don't realise a new border twice the size with NATO will be the end of Russia you really don't understand exactly what it entails or is going on.
edit on 17-7-2022 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 17 2022 @ 04:16 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: XipeTotex

The Russia lost approximately 200,000 men and had 600,000 wounded.

They got there arses handed to them in the snow by Finland comparatively speaking. LoL

If you don't realise a new border twice the size with NATO will be the end of Russia you really don't understand exactly what it entails or is going on.


The end of Russia?

You spout some utter nonsense, non stop Scottish troll.



posted on Jul, 17 2022 @ 04:20 AM
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a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

And yet i seem to own head space in your nut.


End of Russia should they choose to attack any NATO nations.

And lets see them defend a border twice its previous size or thereabouts.

Have a nice day.....comrade.


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posted on Jul, 17 2022 @ 04:35 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: XipeTotex

The Russia lost approximately 200,000 men and had 600,000 wounded.

They got there arses handed to them in the snow by Finland comparatively speaking. LoL

If you don't realise a new border twice the size with NATO will be the end of Russia you really don't understand exactly what it entails or is going on.


It does not matter, Russia has the meat. Finland lost, had to pay up, and lost land and a prosperous future.

Nato borders are speculation at this point. The history is fact.

Lol for you too sir.
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posted on Jul, 17 2022 @ 06:49 AM
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a reply to: Grimpachi



Adding poor reading comprehension to your faults.
I never called you a liberal just a supporter of the liberal world order.


You're making yourself look petty my friend with your poor attemps at insults.
And here is your comment...



You and those like you can stuff your liberal world order


The YOU and those like YOU is your attempt at calling me a member of your imagined said group!! I think you may need your memory checked!? You don't seem to be able to state a single fact or remeber your own posts?



Ukraine has been bombing Donetsk civilian centers. There is no abvancing force there. There is no military presence there aside from their EOD that dissarms unexploded ordinance fired at unarmed civilians every day. They are not targeting the military. They are targeting civilians, fire stations, bus terminals, universities, apartment buildings, kindergartens, high schools, nurseries, hospitals, and residential areas but is all AOK with you because you love Ukrainian terrorists as long as they work for the west and the liberal world order.

You post that Ukraine has been bombing civillian centres but don't want to admit that your hero Mad Vlad and his troops have been shooting civillians and targeting civillian centres since this messy war started and have been using terror as a weapon to fight the Ukrainians since before the invasion.



Here is a question for you. When NATO destroyed the sovereign nation of Lybia what were you doing? How about the sovereign nation of Iraq? Why are we supporting terrorists in the sovereign nation of Syria or supplying weapons to Saudi as they bomb the sovereign nation of Yemen?.........

Strange how the countries you have named here were/are controlled mostly by dictators? I'm seeing some weird kind of hero worship here? You should get that checked when you see someone about your selected memory issue?



Was Vietnam a sovereign nation how about Serbia? I think they were.

Serbia? Really? You are scrapping the barrel now, does this name ring a bell......Slobodan Milošević, you know, the war criminal and mass murder!

I see a very scary pattern here in your support of proven war criminals.
You can't say anything of any importance or expect anyone to believe you after posting that dribble.

The war in Ukraine is going to get a lot more messy, the Ukrainians attempting to fight off an advancing invading terroist army will lead to more deaths of civillians caused by both sides. Mad Vlad needs to withdraw his troops before more of his "soliders" die when the winter arrives.



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posted on Jul, 17 2022 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: MisguidedAngel

While I don't doubt children have been killed in this conflict this comes across as pure narrative forming propaganda.

Where's the damage that this shell caused? That location in the video looks pristine. The houses are untouched, the tree is untouched. We just see an arm that could be fake for all we know. The whole thing reeks.

Get some perspective, folks. We're all being lead down the garden path with this whole thing. Every shortage on the planet is being blamed on this conflict. I never knew that Ukraine apparently supplies the whole world with wheat and Russia with oil but there you go. That's what has caused all of this. Not 2 years of lockdowns and restrictions that have brought all of us to our knees, but a limited conflict in a region of the former USSR!

I feel like I'm on crazy pills!!!!



posted on Jul, 18 2022 @ 12:02 AM
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a reply to: Kurokage




Strange how the countries you have named here were/are controlled mostly by dictators?



I guess you are saying that sovereignty only matters when it is under an elected government.

Wait, that can't be right. Biden was just kissing the arse of Saudi rulers for more oil.

So sovereignty only counts if it benefits the liberal world order.

What do you think has killed more sovereign people of Yemen the weapons we sell to Saudi or the sanctions responsible for their starvation?



posted on Jul, 18 2022 @ 12:04 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Russia is nobody without China's financial backing. China has almost 10 times the population of Russia. Russia is China's vassal state. Putin wouldn't have attacked Ukraine without nod from China. Ukraine pissed China off by nationalizing Motor Sich after China paid the money to buy it and not compensate 1 cent. For this Ukraine pays the price.



posted on Jul, 18 2022 @ 12:08 AM
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Kid dies from side I support:

War is hell... blah blah blah


Kid dies from side I don't support

Karen meltdown



posted on Jul, 18 2022 @ 03:23 AM
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a reply to: XipeTotex



It does not matter, Russia has the meat.


Are you sure because permafrost covers more than 60% of the Russian land.

With just over 7% of Russia's land being arable.

60% of which is used for cropland and the remainder for pastoral purposes.

Plenty of cannon fodder all the same if that's what you mean by "meat" as is evidenced by their tremendous loss of life.



Finland lost, had to pay up, and lost land and a prosperous future.


They did not lose nearly 200,000 men all the same, Finland's losses amounted to about 26,000 poor souls, which is not that far off a 10-1 ratio.



Nato borders are speculation at this point. The history is fact.


Speculative my arse, Sweden and Finland joining NATO is in the post, and the only one to blame is Putin for his antics.



Lol for you too sir.


Take it you're looking in a mirror.


Tell you who's not laughing son, that would be the poor Ukrainians whose lives are being blown to smithereens down to your man Vladimirs wet dream.

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posted on Jul, 18 2022 @ 03:28 AM
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a reply to: guaman

Evidence to support your claims please that Russia is a Chinese vassal state.

China doesn't tell Russia what to do, even though they probably wish they could.

Try and stay on topic.

China won't need to do anything but sit back and watch, they win either way down to NATO and Russia being near enough at one another's throat.
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posted on Jul, 18 2022 @ 05:39 PM
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