Who was surprised when the 'election fairy' changed the votes at 3am in 2020?

a reply to: RegularJo76

Not true at all, Trump did not cause the inflation. If you had a clue you would know spending is decided in the House by Nancy Pelosi then and presently. The vaccine in my opinion was no blessing but since Trump is not a virologist I can't blame him for that but I can blame that idiot Fauci. Biden is a disaster.

Trump Won!!!! Biden got smoked and lost, but we are living in bizzaro World….



a reply to: SortingHat

a reply to: everyone

The only time in recent history where Oil prices were a bit lower was the last year of Bush. He released military oil and provided hope with the pipeline which Obama killed. Gas actually went briefly below 2$ where it was hovering around 3$ for a long time with the media banging on the 'war drums' blaming Iraq for the then high prices to make Bush look bad.

The prices almost overnight dropped to 2.50$ then crept towards 2$ bottoming out around 1.80$ till after Oh Bummer took office and ended the pipeline and gave the rights to Russia. Gas immediately shot back up to 3$ almost overnight and then some.

a reply to: 2ndSEED

It feels like we are in some dream alt reality I can't wake up from. It has that 'fuzzyness' you get when you know something isn't right and the sun doesn't quite feel right either. No matter how much I try to pretend otherwise I can't shake that feeling.

a reply to: FredHubbard

I don't get why Trump let him go on and on almost as if he was doing virtual signal defense? I was waiting for Trump to take serious measures or get the ball rolling so others could if his hands were tied (which they were). He fired others before when he first took office and almost went overboard with the firings to the point you didn't know what or who to believe anymore.

a reply to: imitator

I remember something like that happening. A whole bunch of states had won Trump over. Hell here in Oregon not a SINGLE Biden sign in our liberal Marion County when we did our drives for fun. We like to explore a lot. The only Biden signs I ever saw was in North Albany in the 'hills' there's a newish neighborhood that had a few and I couldn't believe it! But the rest were all Trump and Pence signs that you'd think Oregon was all RED.

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

About what time of the day was that?

a reply to: carewemust

If I recall right 3am was also when the Patriot Law was passed and TSA and this and that. It seems these Presidents all do these crooked things at the middle of the night sort of like when your smoke alarm decides it doesn't like your battery anymore and let's you know. Unless you own a NEST one.

a reply to: M5xaz

Just as importantly, in 2020 the votes had been arriving for WEEKS, via mail and from drop-boxes. Counting on election night itself should have been less of a crush, than any election night prior!

a reply to: RegularJo76

I often wonder if he set himself up to lose and knew this was going to happen? but what would he gain by doing that is my biggest question because China hates his guts for standing up when everyone else was like 'Sure have our secrets and jobs!' By selling out to China the global companies can now have the freedom to be the big monopoly they want to be as long as they kiss Xi Jinping's ass and do what he says and murder whomever he tells them to do.

a reply to: carewemust

I seriously think the Republicans should've held their votes till the Democrats did theirs so they couldn't have a true counter. The Republicans always let themselves be an open/shut book.

a reply to: SortingHat

After experiencing so many upheavals in society at the family and personal level, I sense that most people now simply want things back the way they were for working-class people.

If politicians want to continue doing deals under the table and in the middle of the night, that's OK, as long as those deals don't negatively affect our day-to-day lives.

originally posted by: SortingHat
a reply to: carewemust

I seriously think the Republicans should've held their votes till the Democrats did theirs so they couldn't have a true counter. The Republicans always let themselves be an open/shut book.

It's the Secretary of State who controls the vote counting processes. In Pennsylvania, the Secretary of State was getting so much heat, she resigned 3 months after the Nov 2020 election.

Supreme Court Justice Breyer told her to not count any ballots that arrived after the designated cutoff.

But several cases of Biden ballots were produced and added to the batches after the deadline, because Trump was gaining on Biden in the count, due to suburban and rural ballots.

When it was officially determined that the PA Secretary of State lied to Justice Breyer, she was forced to resign. (Most of us knew she lied within 7 days of the election, due to her own press briefing admitting that new ballots were added after the deadline. Stupid!)

originally posted by: sarahvital

originally posted by: RegularJo76
a reply to: everyone

How is that me countering myself? In the grand scheme of things less than 2 years is nothing! Trump's political impact lasted less than 2 years after leaving office. He did nothing to help our current situation. You deflecting to Biden is just you lying to yourself.

3 supreme court justices for life.

TDS.

how's that for lasting impact?

I saw a great meme the other day describing how President Trump has done more great things for this country in 2021 and 2022, than our so-called President Biden has done.

Overturning Roe v Wade (thank-you Trump)

Vaccine (thank-you Trump)

and a couple other good things that happened due to steps President Trump took, that numbnuts Biden couldn't overturn.

originally posted by: SortingHat
a reply to: everyone

The only time in recent history where Oil prices were a bit lower was the last year of Bush. He released military oil and provided hope with the pipeline which Obama killed. Gas actually went briefly below 2$ where it was hovering around 3$ for a long time with the media banging on the 'war drums' blaming Iraq for the then high prices to make Bush look bad.

The prices almost overnight dropped to 2.50$ then crept towards 2$ bottoming out around 1.80$ till after Oh Bummer took office and ended the pipeline and gave the rights to Russia.[/b] Gas immediately shot back up to 3$ almost overnight and then some.

I actually forgot about that. See, the moment a democrat sits as president they shut down the systems that help us be independent.

Impeachment after impeachment with it never happening. Fake dossier.

JHC…the democrats were on him at day one.

The US government is out of balance and is soaked with money and power promises with politicians only worried about getting elected again.

The democrat party is very corrupt and poisoned by power and fringe elements of the population pushing an agenda to keep us off balance and focused on problems that just don’t matter.

Fake Jan 6th committee that has nothing. If they did, Trump would be going to trial by now. Again, agenda driven to keep our attention where they want it.

Shootings used to drive a political agenda.

Abortion used to drive a political agenda.

At midterms, if fraud is even sniffed at, the US government will be in trouble. The average Joe and Jane have had enough.

I'm just relieved that many Americans saw it.

People are dealing with this their own small ways.

Next election, you can bet there will be people on surveillance on both sides and action will be taken.

The 2000 mules already has people making groups to confront suspect ballot harvestors at high risk sites.

So, yeah, next Presidential election will be bloody in battleground states.

a reply to: kwakakev

I agree. It was the blatant real time cheating that rather shocked me. Normally this stuff is simple and hard to see happen - that night it was as evident as a nuclear blast.

There is no chance of just those specific counties all stopping their counting - which is virtually unheard of prior to 2020 - then all of those same counties suddenly flip by in some cases insane amounts. The plausible deniability defense of "dems vote more by mail" is ludicrous and extremely dishonest. Anyone with a brain and the ability to process information would see that something was extremely off.

They want the "universal mail in voting without verification" so they can continue to do the same thing. This time they will perfect the system and link real time precinct voter data to a system that then generates a mail in ballot for anyone who has not voted. They will the fill in said ballot and submit it for their guy or gal of course. I wouldn't be surprised if they have a system pre filling out mail in ballots for every eligible citizen already - then just removing the ballot once it checks off as 'cast ballot at precinct x'.

To be clear in dont care necessarily about which party is doing this - it isnt a my guy vs their guy issue for me - it is an issue of America being able to have free and fair elections. It is a shame that courts refused to hear evidence based on standing - any citizen impacted should have standing on something like this. Disenfranchisement of a citizens vote should be standing enough. I certainly didnt expect the rinos to help, but the courts should have heard the evidence - instead they kicked the can. Sad times.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: M5xaz

Just as importantly, in 2020 the votes had been arriving for WEEKS, via mail and from drop-boxes. Counting on election night itself should have been less of a crush, than any election night prior!

Some States didn't allow mail in ballots to be counted until after in person voting had finished.

As an insomniac from the UK I've watched many elections through the night. I went to sleep with the knowledge that Trump had clearly won waht appeared to be a fairly close election, but woke up to find out that a miracle had taken place without any apparent amazement form the media.

The most bizarre aspect of it all was the fact that the counting stopped just short of officailly concluding and then remained in that state for a week, again without any explanation from the media. They carried on as if it were still election night - for a week!

If the media is under complete control of some secret system that operates through decepetion - and I believe it is - then why it would it look so bad? Unless they wanted it too. If they did want it to look blatantly rigged, then why? Maybe to divide and provoke and assess responses.