The U* UFO Database - Searchable Version Now Online

Nice one MM.

a reply to: mirageman

Great job, thank you for doing all that work.

a reply to: mirageman
I understand what you're doing. It just that people, not you specifically, tend to forget it's always up to the claimant to prove a fantastical story. Not up to me or anyone to "debunk". Debunk always carries a negative, agenda-driven, purposeful meaning behind it to some. When it's only just a grounded, rational explanation/suggestion.
It's like being part of a jury and only hearing the prosecutor or defendants side.

Good lookin out

a reply to: Ectoplasm8

You know, in the greater scheme of reality is to understand simply: we just don’t know…period.
Anyone who says they know is lying. Unless they really know but that knowledge can’t be given to anyone else until if or when we all know…something. A theory is fine, there a dime a dozen and always welcome for what they're worth.

But this is something one can go into for hours. Even the maps are great.

a reply to: Ectoplasm8

I'm all for taking a balanced view and one thing the database does prove is how UFOs are much more of a cultural phenomenon in the United States than anywhere else in the world. 4% of the global population generated 44% of the reports.

This was the breakdown from the U* Database by country.



The large anomaly that is France is due to all the books by Vallee written in Engish used as a soruce.

After that the Anglo nations lead the way. Albeit with much smaller numbers. Once we get outside of Europe and the Latin American world, then UFO reports are few and far between.

a reply to: mirageman

Outside of the west, they either don't care what they are looking at,
as they may be starving or being actively shot at,

or in their culture, such things have ALWAYS been seen as 'the ancestors'
or whatever their culture teaches them.

'UFOs' are not part of their culture... it's just like the amazon tribes
that first met western anthropologits.. much that the anthropologists
said, or even items they were carrying were 'invisible' or just nonsense
to the natives.

Kev

a reply to: mirageman

That might be because of the highly obsessional nature of the mentality of the American people: and science & technology, wealth, modernity, the massive information, and news gathering capacity, including the massive entertainment complex (you usually speak about) tabloidism (a new word) sensationalism, religiosity, and the time to worry about ufos.

The poor countries, number one, don’t have the technology and science nor the entertainment, news gathering capacity to popularize this even if they were getting ufos. And like KPB points out, who cares unless they start dropping some food down once in a while. A friend goes to Senegal often, and tells me the people are great but really poor as one would expect, an ex-colony of France who actually paid France operations for kicking them out of their country!

A more imaginative explanation is the US and the first world are where the power is in this world. And any foreign or alien phenomenon would naturally hang out where the power is sourced.

a reply to: mirageman

Well done,

The entry for "Groote Eylandt" has been misspelled "Groot", instead of "Groote"

I have encountered the very same submersible lights they talk about in that entry

On Groote Eylandt, and in Darwin

They are all over the coast of the N.T, Australia

Obama visited Darwin in 2011 and the American Military "secretly" chased these things in our harbours and skies for years afterwards

American military in plain clothes, were then seen moving into an old "hidden" military base named 2CRU at Casuarina Coastal Reserve. A defunct over-the-horizon radar base hidden in the bush on the beach

At least they thought they were being secretive. But all the locals knew they were there

Plain clothed American military cleaning up a defunct OTH Radar base, are very obvious in a city like Darwin. Nobody here dresses the way they do, unless they are American

During the fiscal cliff, when Obama was supposed to be on his way back to the U.S.A from Hawaii, he apparently secretly flew into Darwin again

He was supposedly on Air Force one. But half the Darwin Airport was closed down and non-essential staff were sent home, so a private jet could land "securely". A staff member that was sent home, was told it was Obama

No mention of this was made in the news

But at the particular time he apparently flew "secretly" back in, the lights in the water of the coast were particularly active

You could go down to the coast on any given night and see them everywhere

Some nights the vanishing point for the entire coastline would be lit up for hundreds of KM's, like there was an entire city out in the Beagle Gulf

I'm talking an impossibly long stretch of the vanishing point of the coast, lit up brighter than the actual city of Darwin, when there is nothing out there but ocean

I was working I.T on some of the shipping vessels and heard the American military running their "exercises" in the harbour on the radios

The men on the ship who worked the shipping lines joked about how they are out there every night in their run-abouts, scurrying about the harbour

I think the American military eventually gave up on wherever they were chasing though, because they just toyed with them

One morning, I saw fighter jets above the city chasing an orb of light. And the orb was just playing with them

It would sit and wait for the fighters to get close, then it would zoom ahead at impossible speeds, before sitting and waiting for them to catch up again

The feeling I got watching it, was comical. I actually laughed watching it

The jet was going as fast as it could go, and the orb of light looked like a bemused parent who had to keep stopping to wait for their toddler to catch up

I also had an F35 hover over me on the beach one night. I was out on the beach at night, visiting the lights like I did most nights for years, and the military was out there chasing them around too

The lights seem to have no interest in interacting with military or Government, but are more than happy to approach locals who go down to see them

On this particular night, an aircraft, which wasn't a helicopter, that was able to hover over the beach, came to check me out, while they were checking out the lights in the water

I assume it was an F35, because they seen hovering all over Darwin at the time

All I could really see, were the blinking lights of a plane, that had a blinding spotlight on the underside of its nose

It hovered over me for a minute, then went back to checking out the lights in the water

I've had years and years of experience with the "phenomena" that happens around this area

From my knowledge, they have absolutely no regard for Government and Military and want nothing to do with them

They also are not at all happy that the U.S Military is basing themselves here. They seem to view it as a type of passive invasion

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Yup. The USA in particular is not much for 'live and let live';
you don't have to squeeze every last ounce of life out of Earth like
some starving vampire.

In "Encounters with Star People", the nativies will go,
"shrug --- looks like a star ancestor over there. Shrug.
If they come on over here, get some food and drink
ready, but otherwise respect their privacy".

Kev

a reply to: mirageman
To me, just more evidence of a cultural happening not physical one. What is the likelihood that alien craft are exclusive to the U.S.? As I frequently say, ET beings visiting Earth would be a worldwide event. A phenomenon that's made popular by the media. ET look made popular by the media.

I had written a thread I never published showing from the perspective of an alien, the United States isn't the focus or interest of the globe. The USSR is larger in area, China and India have large populations, air pollution is strong in China. The pyramids, great wall, and other manmade landmarks would garner the attention of ET.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Yeah, maybe it's no big thing, and the AA theorists, though generally very annoying have a bit of truth, and visits from places are no big thing. Americans want to obsess over something like this but it is likely just the force, God, the spirit, Shiva, Kali, demiurge, Galactic federation, whatever at work.

Of course, maybe, just maybe some folks doing the worldwide nasty may be in serious trouble.
You know like, Sodom and Gomorrah, Pharoah, it’s a long list of reprobates this world contains just ready for a good old fashion cosmic ass whipping!

a reply to: peaceinoutz

just ready for a good old fashion cosmic ass whipping!

That made me smile!

I'm just saying, that to use a related metaphor, that

"people get the government that they deserve".

In a similar way, I'd imagine that cultures get their
PERCEPTION of 'the other' (whether it's true or just
imaginary) that they deserve.

The US is full of such dark forces of attempted world
domination, greed, foolishness, the lack of any genuine
moral center (I mean, it's almost obvious that repubicans
and democrats WANT to be endlessly gridlocked and get
nothing positive done that might disturb the status quo).

I'ts not surprising to me at all, that UFOlogy is so crapped
up in the US.. it's a deep reflection of our fears and lusts
for power.

Honestly I think that anything to do with AA or actual
nuts and bolts UFOs are so contraindicated by all
possible evidence, that it's almost not worth considering
the possibility anymore.. but if a gentle people like some
native people's see things as 'physical' .. i suppose for them,
a less insane culture if it's true for anyone.. maybe
just maybe it is for them.. or it's a 'solid hologram' type
thing..

But in any case, I find their attitude refreshing and healthy..
was my point there.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Just hope when the cosmic ass-whooping comes there are some lifeboats with life jackets available!

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Just hope when the cosmic ass-whooping comes there are some lifeboats with life jackets available!

We will be treated with the same mercy that we have shown
other species livging with us on Earth!

Even if people don't use this database for anything more than entertainment, there are some crazy stories in there for sure when you do a deeper dive.

The case from TIVISSA, Spain which (largely claimed to be a hoax) features....

"Alien Octopoids - octopus-like aliens found in Tivissa Spain. The alien Octopoids were first seen on August 16th, 1968 by a farmer named John Mateu who described them as 3ft tall octopus-like creature with 4-5 legs."



They also have enough tentacles to give one hell of a cosmic ass-whooping!

a reply to: mirageman

I’m telling you, though since it’s underwater maybe they saw Pharoah down there and the Egyptians still running away from Moses


Or likely this one was too much of that Spanish Rioja Gran Reserva wine...

a reply to: mirageman

well,

Giant Squid

Get up to 40 feet long, and there may be larger and even more
bizarre forms of them in the deep.

Heck of a critter!

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Well, you’re always going to have what they call, the sublime and the ridiculous often side by side.

One can see a great movie, Tinker Taylor with Gary Oldman, and then have Abbot and Costello meet Frankenstein on the same TV set in the same house, maybe at the same time if they got two TVs.

It appears to be the nature of the world.

Many of these are lights in the sky, and crazy tales sure, but the pearls are there too.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

the pearls are there too.

Absolutely true!