Russia & Germany Forming a Social Democracy throughout Europe with Christianity as the Prime Mover

Russia & Prussians have been clawing at each other for 100s of years. There is one thing that has always been a prize for the Germans & that is the oil/wheat rich area of Ukraine.
Russia lost the Ukraine in 1991 & also want control of it’s wheat/oil fields badly.
Another reason Russia is angry with Ukrainian has to do with autocephaly granted by Constantinople to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church , thus causing a schism between Moscow & Constantinople Orthodox See’s .

The Libyan Arab spring in 2011 funded by the Hillary Clinton State Dept. removed Qadhdhafi which destabilised the gateway from North Africa into Europe. Since 2011 Europe has been under a soft invasion of Muslim theocratic people.

The Muslim influx into Europe in the last 11 years has given rise to fascism & nazi political groups all through Europe.
Germany being the powerhouse of Europe will avoid getting caught up into a new nazi wave rising in Eastern Europe & Northern European countries, because of the black eye it has over Hitler.
So imo Germany has remained fairly silent & neutral over Russia invading Ukraine, because it will purge the Nazi’s running much of that country.
Russia takes Ukraine & Germany gets cheap oil & grain in return.
I do believe that in the game of world domination, Russia would rather side with Germany for cultural & religious reasons over China .
I see a large powerhouse built in Ukraine of Russian & German oil agreements, Christian agreements, fascism abolishment & once again a Christian response to the Muslim takeover of Europe.
I believe that Europe will become increasingly ruled by the Prussians with their ally in oil the Russians pulling up the rear .
I see Russia becoming more a Social Democratic country once Putin is gone , and all those old East German days of Merkel & her Christian Democrat party power , combined with Gerhard Schröder being close friends with Putin is setting up the next crusade through Europe… this time it will be Nazis & Muslims that will be purged imo .
Putin made Orthodoxy part of Russian nationalism & many Christian Europeans feel under threat from increased Muslim power in their motherlands .
I believe within 50 years we will see a Prussian/Russian social Democratic Europe with America & England being allies .
China the atheist red machine will find itself isolated against the world.
The Middle East will stay the playground for battles between American & European interests vs Theocratic Muslims.
One tenant of a few large Secret Societies is to restore Jerusalem & pin the Muslims one last time as revenge .
Oil & Land men have fought over for aeons, but Religion one way or another is behind all conflict as the hidden Prime Mover

a reply to: MeatHookReality

Putin is setting up the next crusade through Europe… this time it will be Nazis & Muslims that will be purged imo

Seems unlikely because Putin has both Nazis and Muslims fighting for him right now. Can he afford to backstab both groups?

1) Germany is not a sovereign country now.

2) What good did the Europeans do for Russia in order to free them from Muslims, whom they themselves allowed to live in their countries?

3) How will Syria, the Arab countries, Iran, the countries of Central Asia and, most importantly, its own regions with tens of millions of Muslims look at Russia after that?

originally posted by: turretless
1) Germany is not a sovereign country now.

2) What good did the Europeans do for Russia in order to free them from Muslims, whom they themselves allowed to live in their countries?

3) How will Syria, the Arab countries, Iran, the countries of Central Asia and, most importantly, its own regions with tens of millions of Muslims look at Russia after that?

I don’t think Russia cares

a reply to: turretless

Just curious; why don't you think Germany is a 'sovereign country' now?

a reply to: MeatHookReality

The Muslim influx into Europe in the last 11 years has given rise to fascism & nazi political groups all through Europe.

It's always the Muslims that get the blame and yet they are not invading Ukraine, aside from the ones part of Russian forces.

Same as they are not threatening the world with the use of nuclear weapons.

I see Russia becoming a standing joke, point of fact by way of their actions in Ukraine, they already are such, just not of the funny ha'ha sorts.

originally posted by: MeatHookReality

originally posted by: turretless
1) Germany is not a sovereign country now.

2) What good did the Europeans do for Russia in order to free them from Muslims, whom they themselves allowed to live in their countries?

3) How will Syria, the Arab countries, Iran, the countries of Central Asia and, most importantly, its own regions with tens of millions of Muslims look at Russia after that?

I don’t think Russia cares

I don't agree with you.

In addition, there is no Orthodoxy in Germany, there is either Catholicism or Protestantism.

If you don’t know, then I inform you that the Livonian Landmastership of the Teutonic Order came to the land of Russia with a crusade. Prokofiev's music about it - www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: turretless

Just curious; why don't you think Germany is a 'sovereign country' now?

I didn't claim it.

I claimed that: "Germany is not a sovereign country now."

It is very easy to distinguish.

The government of a sovereign country acts in accordance with its interests, but the government of a non-sovereign country acts in accordance with the interests of another country (for example, a world hegemon).

For example, Turkey bought the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system from Russia, ignoring any threats from Washington.

As for Germany, it suspended the certification of the already built Nord Stream 2, in the interests of the United States.

a reply to: andy06shake

You can blame Muslim extremists for a lot of things.....but not this.
Its the same as people constantly blaming it ALL on Biden.....the man is a hopeless incompetent but this isn't down to him.

At the end of the day, once we brush aside all the deflection tactics, the smoke in mirrors and all the 'whataboutisms' the FACT is that Putin chose to invade a non-threatening independent nation, its Putin who is continuing with his programme of death and destruction and its Putin who is attempting to hold the world to ransom with his threats of first strike nuclear attacks in order to get his own way.

Once the killing has stopped, some semblance of order is restored and a peace agreed then maybe it will be time to discuss ALL the contributory factors that led to Putin's invasion.

a reply to: turretless

I didn't claim it.

I claimed that: "Germany is not a sovereign country now."

Which is what I asked.....🤔

Either your splitting fanny hairs or I've suddenly lost the ability to comprehend my native tongue?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MeatHookReality

The Muslim influx into Europe in the last 11 years has given rise to fascism & nazi political groups all through Europe.

It's always the Muslims that get the blame and yet they are not invading Ukraine, aside from the ones part of Russian forces.

Same as they are not threatening the world with the use of nuclear weapons.

I see Russia becoming a standing joke, point of fact by way of their actions in Ukraine, they already are such, just not of the funny ha'ha sorts.

I never said it was the Muslim’s fault . Yet a different culture with theocratic ideas is hardly popular in a very secular European society with Christianity as it’s foundation.
Im just stating what reality is .

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: turretless

I didn't claim it.

I claimed that: "Germany is not a sovereign country now."

Which is what I asked.....🤔

Either your splitting fanny hairs or I've suddenly lost the ability to comprehend my native tongue?

I agree.

It was my mistake in English.

Please excuse me.

a reply to: turretless

No problem.
I understand and appreciate that English isn't your first language.
👍

a reply to: MeatHookReality

The Muslim influx into Europe in the last 11 years has given rise to fascism & nazi political groups all through Europe.

You are however suggesting the influx of Muslims gave rise to the fascists and nazi ideologies that have plagued the continent. Your main problem being that's been going on since around the time of the second world war, or even as far back as the 1920s.

Putin's invasion of Ukraine has got sweet feck all to do with Muslims in general unless it's the ones in his own rank and file from the likes of Chechnya screaming "Allahu Akbar" and taking sh@t about taking Kyiv.

Point of fact also Christianity and the Holy Roman Church of St Peter is responsible for a hell of a lot more death destruction and mass genocide than the Muslims ever caused where Europe is concerned.

If in doubt we'll see the Spanish inquisition and witch hunts for a start.

Then there is the holocaust in which they were also complicit.

The war in Ukraine is not about religion MeatHookReality, it's a simple land grab by Putin in an attempt to return his nation to the former glory of the USSR which is never apt to happen.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MeatHookReality

The Muslim influx into Europe in the last 11 years has given rise to fascism & nazi political groups all through Europe.

I agree , but religion or the control religion offers is behind all conflicts to lesser or more degrees.

You are however suggesting the influx of Muslims gave rise to the fascists and nazi ideologies that have plagued the continent. Your main problem being that's been going on since around the time of the second world war, or even as far back as the 1920s.

Putin's invasion of Ukraine has got sweet feck all to do with Muslims in general unless it's the ones in his own rank and file from the likes of Chechnya screaming "Allahu Akbar" and taking sh@t about taking Kyiv.

Point of fact also Christianity and the Holy Roman Church of St Peter is responsible for a hell of a lot more death destruction and mass genocide than the Muslims ever caused where Europe is concerned.

If in doubt we'll see the Spanish inquisition and witch hunts for a start.

Then there is the holocaust in which they were also complicit.

The war in Ukraine is not about religion MeatHookReality, it's a simple land grab by Putin in an attempt to return his nation to the former glory of the USSR which is never apt to happen.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MeatHookReality

The Muslim influx into Europe in the last 11 years has given rise to fascism & nazi political groups all through Europe.

You are however suggesting the influx of Muslims gave rise to the fascists and nazi ideologies that have plagued the continent. Your main problem being that's been going on since around the time of the second world war, or even as far back as the 1920s.

Putin's invasion of Ukraine has got sweet feck all to do with Muslims in general unless it's the ones in his own rank and file from the likes of Chechnya screaming "Allahu Akbar" and taking sh@t about taking Kyiv.

Point of fact also Christianity and the Holy Roman Church of St Peter is responsible for a hell of a lot more death destruction and mass genocide than the Muslims ever caused where Europe is concerned.

If in doubt we'll see the Spanish inquisition and witch hunts for a start.

Then there is the holocaust in which they were also complicit.

The war in Ukraine is not about religion MeatHookReality, it's a simple land grab by Putin in an attempt to return his nation to the former glory of the USSR which is never apt to happen.

Muslims have blood on their hands as well.
Have you forgotten how many peoples & territories the Muslim & Persian empires have crusaded against ?
I agree with most of your post , but not the part about Muslims being victims throughout history.
Both Roman Catholics & Muslims have slaughtered millions in their pursuit of religious domination.

originally posted by: turretless

As for Germany, it suspended the certification of the already built Nord Stream 2, in the interests of the United States.

Seems like you personally established the definition and then use it, does work that way.

originally posted by: MeatHookReality
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Since 2011 Europe has been under a soft invasion of Muslim theocratic people.

Most of those who are allowed to leave have been liberals and and religious non-conformists who don’t support the state sanctioned religious establishment in Syria & Iraq.

Germany being the powerhouse of Europe will avoid getting caught up into a new nazi wave rising in Eastern Europe & Northern European countries, because of the black eye it has over Hitler.
So imo Germany has remained fairly silent & neutral over Russia invading Ukraine, because it will purge the Nazi’s running much of that country.

The right-wing populist AfD is not in power and constantly hounded by the hard and soft socialists of the Liberal parties. The are fewer nazis in German now that there are believing Christians. And that’s saying something.

Russia takes Ukraine & Germany gets cheap oil & grain in return.

Your post thesis is that religion is the cause of all wars, yet you keep using economic arguments to bolster your thesis. Weak

Oil & Land men have fought over for aeons, but Religion one way or another is behind all conflict as the hidden Prime Mover

Oil only became significant as fuel in 1914’s World War One. So not “aeons,” or thousands of years. Maybe you meant. . . . Whale oil?

Religion hasn’t factored into warfare for the white male since the 1650s, when it quit being the property of elites in the West.

originally posted by: turretless
As for Germany, it suspended the certification of the already built Nord Stream 2, in the interests of the United States.

No, it hasn't. NorthStream 1 had already been heavily critisized by other European countries, like Sweden, Lithuania and Poland. And, furthermore, the former german Kanler Schröder entering the board of Gazprom just when the building of the pipeline was starting didn't add a lot of confidence about the project in many Germans.

With NorthStrean 2, there had been multiple complaints from other countries, eg. Denmark - and the building process was not really in the sense of confidence. The truth is that NS2 had always have a lot of critics. Nevertheless, the pipeline had been completed, but never got a license to operate. The German Kanzler Scholz stopped the certication process on the 22nd of February due to expectations of Russia invading Ukraine - which Russia did 2 days later.

There is a sying in Germany "Wenn zwei das gleiche tun, ist es nicht autmatisch dasselbe" (When two parties are doing similar things, it isn't automatically the same). If the US doesn't want NorthStream and Germany doesn't want NorthStream, it doesn't mean that Germany is "following" the US, they rather both have their own reasons for doing what they do.
In Germany, there are two main stream groups, one is supporting the sanctions against Russia and the help for Ukraine and accept that Germany, rather its citizens, will experience economic hardship, because they firmly believe that Russia will not stop with Ukraine.
The other group does not want to sacrifice anything and, furthermore, believes that when Russia is being appeased everything will, namely economically, stay as it is. Quite a few think also, that there is still Poland between Germany and Russia and Germany is safe and can continue to live as it did (even ehen do not realize that eg. inflation and trade chain disruptions started BEFORE the war).

In this regard, an answer depends a lot of whom you will ask in Germany - someone of group 1 will tell you that Germany acts according to its treaties (NATO, EU) and will have to follow suit (with those, not with the US). A member of group 2 will rather say that Germany has other, "own", interests (which are basically, the ones of this group only) than to follow up on what others are doing or planning.