Russia is Mom: Americans love Russia and thank the Russians

a reply to: baggy7981

Hello. Today, allied troops entered the center of the encircled Lisichansk. Here is a confirmation video:

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They discover terrible things. Here is a video of the stronghold of the Nazi battalion "Right Sector". The video shows the corpses of civilians in the city of Lisichansk with their hands tied behind. They were killed and thrown into a well.
There are many such finds.

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This is what NATO instructors and mercenaries teach them,

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: alldaylong
The Russian people are a very diverse population with many different and old cultures dotting their country. Few people have suffered as much as Russians have under their own regimes throughout the last 2 centuries.

Sounds off when you put it like that. Not all citizen of Russia are ethnically Russian. Those other cultures aren't Russian, they just happen to live under the same government that is mostly Russian.

a reply to: gortex

War itself is a crime.

The longer this war continues the longer the people will suffer.

The United States seems to be willing to engage in a protracted proxy war even if it means total economic collapse for us.

Ukraine isn't worth a 3rd world war but we sure are hell bent at creating it.

Just a reminder. We were attacked on 9/11. The people who did it were in Afghanistan. Had it not been for that event, we would not have been there. So, there's that.

a reply to: baggy7981

a reply to: MiddleInsite

Read the Afghanistan Papers.

Being there the first year or two would have been justified.

Everything after that was war profiteering and regional destabilization.

The CNN view just doesn't cut it.

a reply to: projectvxn

Something about glass houses and throwing stones comes to mind.

I'm not the one posting on ATS desperate to find people who like The British.

I don't give a toss if we are liked or not. Most countries have episodes in their history that is best forgotten. As none of us has the means to go back in time and right any wrongs.

Time for the world just to move forward and cut out all the hostility crap.

originally posted by: projectvxn

I don't know what justifies all this hate toward Russian people.

What hate?

I am sure there are people who hate the Russians just as there are people who hate the Americans, the Scots and the Cambodians. But there are small in number and not even very vocal.

In fact, I'd warrant that generally speaking, most people are more favourable towards the Russians than the Ukrainians.

Where the hate lies is with the Russian leaders who have embarked on a pathetic, childish, pointless genocidal invasion of Ukraine.

It's a bit like a normal kid at school, middle of the class, maybe not the most popular kid, but one whom no-one despised or bullied, suddenly deciding to shoot his class mates and then wonder why, now, the rest of them no longer wanted to play with him or even sit next to him.

a reply to: surfer_soul

Communism worked fine on paper, introduce people into the equation all the same and there goes the neighborhood.

Democracy has its faults also, but nonetheless the most desirable form of government Humanity has produced thus far.

a reply to: alldaylong

In this scheme of things, everything I listed was basically yesterday.

Something not so easily forgotten. Especially by those of us who participated in the NWOs wars.

a reply to: projectvxn

The United States seems to be willing to engage in a protracted proxy war even if it means total economic collapse for us.

As a military man you must see the consequences of not standing up to this aggression given the expansionist words of the instigator of the conflict , history shows us inaction is not a viable option when dealing with rampaging dictators.

a reply to: projectvxn

In this scheme of things, everything I listed was basically yesterday.

Like Joseph Starlin and his man made famine of The Ukranian people between 1932-33.

The Ukrainian famine—known as the Holodomor, a combination of the Ukrainian words for “starvation” and “to inflict death”—by one estimate claimed the lives of 3.9 million people, about 13 percent of the population.

www.history.com...

a reply to: projectvxn

War itself is a crime.

Most reasonable people of all nationalities would agree with this.

The longer this war continues the longer the people will suffer.

Without a shadow of doubt.

Ukraine isn't worth a 3rd world war but we sure are hell bent at creating it.

So where is?
Who decides who is worth it and who isn't?

What are the alternatives?
Do we allow Putin to bully and intimidate his way all across Europe?

Why all the criticism for the US and its Allies while Russia seems to get some sort of pass?

Disregarding all the spin and smoke in mirrors the cold, hard truth is that it is Russia who invaded a non-threatening independent country and started a prolonged programme of death and destruction.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: projectvxn

Something about glass houses and throwing stones comes to mind.

I'm not the one posting on ATS desperate to find people who like The British.

I don't give a toss if we are liked or not. Most countries have episodes in their history that is best forgotten. As none of us has the means to go back in time and right any wrongs.

Time for the world just to move forward and cut out all the hostility crap.

No-one likes the British That's what makes us so popular - we're the only people everyone can hate and insult with impunity, without fear of being called racist or bigot, cos we've grown up enough not thrown a tantrum about it! Hell, we spend half our time taking the piss out of ourselves anyway. And if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: baggy7981

Whereas Soviet Russia would never invade Afghanistan.

www.history.com...

They don't call that place "the graveyard of empires" for no good reason.

So there is that also.

The fact here is Russia invaded Afghanistan to prevent the massive amounts of Heroin from entering the country to do something about all the addicts and crime that came with it.

On the other hand when the Taliban banned the production of Heroin in 2000 the western coalition invaded to get those poppy fields going again.

Sad but true and tells me all I need to know about TPTB running our nation’s.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: RussianTroll

Hello. And the Russians believe that it is Putin who is the guarantor that we can simply live our lives.

Of course....I can't recall anyone else threatening the world with a nuclear holocaust.

I was on a tour in another city. A lot of work.

As long as it wasn't a prolonged tour of one of Putin's special holiday camps.

Only because Biden forgot where the suitcase is!

a reply to: surfer_soul

Another war on drugs surfer_soul?

Supply and demand being what it is, i have to question Russia's intentions there as much as any other nation.

Nasty substance all the same, but there is no real war on drugs, never has been nor lightly to be any time soon.

And TPTB as you put it, plus their accompanying alphabet agencies are buried up to their neck in all sorts of nefarious shenanigans and backhanders there, make no mistake about it.

Too much money to be had you see, the majority of such completely off the books and tax-free.

a reply to: andy06shake

Democracy has its faults also, but nonetheless the most desirable form of government Humanity has produced thus far.

Incorrect democracy is just mob rule at its heart, and not even fair. Example 51% getting something 49% of people really don’t want. It’s just divide and conquer.

Where as a Demarchy is a much better system. Go look it up, you will honestly learn something.

Corruption is the main issue in the world though. We are truly living in the century of the self.

a reply to: andy06shake

Too much money to be had you see, the majority of such completely off the books and tax-free.

I’m fully aware of that and that’s my point. Look at the old opinion wars with China.
Look at the East Indian company. To many people don’t know their history.

a reply to: surfer_soul

Its a prison where the majority cannot see the bars surfer_soul.

But like i suggest a hell of a lot better than the alternative in both directions.

Your "Demarchy" kind of sounds like anarchy at its best, but then again introduce corruptible people and your "Demarchy" is not any better than the alternative.

People are not equal you see nor lightly to be so anytime soon, but that doesn't mean that we should not strive towards a measure of equality for all, or at least do a whole lot better where the distribution of wealth and power are concerned across the globe.

And the reason people are so corrupt is because of inequality which is kind of a vicious circle.

a reply to: surfer_soul

I'm fully aware of the history and the profits people have accumulated.

Which is why i understand that tap is never lightly to be turned off anytime soon.

Nations and empires have been built on the back of that pain, strife, pleasure and misery surfer_soul as sad as the case may be.