Windows 10 KB5014699 The Update from Hell ...Now more Hell with KB5015807

It's me again. But this time it is Windows that has the issue. And from a search or two, plenty of people have this problem.
answers.microsoft.com...
tricks.dedyn.io...
answers.microsoft.com...
You get the idea.

It seems to be a bad update, and many of the fixes center around just reinstalling Windows.
Seems pretty extreme to us.
The laptop in question is an HP 1TBHD running Windows Home. It does have at least a couple of bad sectors....dealt with in other threads here.
But this is Windows faulty update this time.


Ideally, we'd like to stop the update and pause updates...hoping windows can fix the damn update.
From some of what I read, the KB5014699 may be uninstalling some components of Windows 10.

Thanks as always and I look forward to your experiences and expertise.


SEE THIS FIX PLEASE!!!



UPDATE
Now getting error code
0x80073712





UPDATE
KB5015807 for 21H1. Fails 3 times with error message ox80073712

My work computer has been telling me it is installing a new version for about 3 months now. It also seems to have affected my vpn connection. I always have to restart the system before the vpn will work. Very annoying.

a reply to: greendust

Yeah, I think it happened last month as well for my husband. And somehow we got to a point where we could Pause updates.
Not getting that option as it seems to be a constant cycle to install. Once it fails, it starts installing again.


Annoying doesn't cover it, as the laptop runs at 100% while this alleged update "installs"

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

2 Months ago (April), I couldn't restart my computer after the update. It took me a week to get it running again.

I just checked my work laptop, that KB installed this AM when I rebooted to fix another issue I was having- didn't take more than a few minutes and doesn't appear to have broken anything.

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Been there, have HP...

What we did was cut and paste everything from your stuff to an external. When sure its there...wipe the drive...clean it. Re install...the re-install!

You do know the updates are here going right to Windows11? Yep. All my stuff. Therein may be an issue for you as well. Hope not....Best

Hey D? That Windows 11 was a forced update we didnt ask for.

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Hi DTOM, have you had issues with this update? It looks like the three main components which are uninstalled are M$ Paint, notepad and wordpad. Do you still have those? If not, and you need them, it looks like they can be reinstalled as they are now options rather than standard windows components.

If your system is running smoothly, except the slow down from the update process, I would be inclined to leave it alone. M$ will probably roll out a fix fairly soon. A complete reinstall of the OS seems a bit over the top. In any case, you'd be back to square 1 with a host of updates to bring it in line with what you have now... including the update from hell.

Unfortunately, Windows Home version doesn't give you much control over updates. However, you could try option 1 in the link below. Option 2 may work if your PC connect via wifi and option 3 is a non-starter as it only works in Enterprise, Pro and Education versions.

www.cleverfiles.com...

My experience with Windows is a bit behind the times. At work we're still running an older version of Windows that is unsupported by M$ for home use, but keeps supporting enterprise editions. It's exactly because Windows updates can be so flaky, that large businesses and Gov have to remain behind the times. All updates have to 100% guaranteed and tested on virtual machines before deploying on 3K machines... unless we want an employee revolt.

ETA: I found what I was looking for. At the following link it covers the same methods to disable updates as at the above link, but adds tweaking the registry as well. I'm a bit geeky, but I've always preferred getting my hands dirty under the hood... The Registry in the case of Windows. It harks back to Windows 95 and just feels more homely.

windows101tricks.com...

a reply to: Encia22

We'll look and try tomorrow morning......
And actually, the laptop is connected with the in home wifi from the router.
Thanks.

ETA
oh, just saw your edit!!!!
That looks promising. Very promising.
Love the idea of changing from automatic.
Reminds me of Win XP when you could still choose





ETA 2
Is there an advantage of disadvantage to method two involving tweaking the registry?
Is the second edited link reversible?

Be careful "updating" drivers from Windows Update !!!! 🥶

Windows 10 updates suck. I don't think I need to say anymore, most people already know that.

Want to stop a Windows update on 10 or 11 ?
Microsoft publishes their official way :

Windows Show Hide Update

Option One and a download link .
Run .

It is a MS program .
Works until the next version of Windows .
Then wash , rinse , repeat as needed.

Prosper .

Caution : Do not overuse this product .

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: Encia22

ETA 2
Is there an advantage of disadvantage to method two involving tweaking the registry?
Is the second edited link reversible?

No, no difference for the end result. The services.msc method just provdes a user-friendly interface to work with. The Registry view can be daunting and difficult to navigate to the right keys and values.

Yes, everything is reversable. In fact, I would use it to postpone updates until you're sure they are OK... no bad reviews on the internet. In the end it is just an on/off switch that you control, instead of Windows.

originally posted by: Encia22

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: Encia22

ETA 2
Is there an advantage of disadvantage to method two involving tweaking the registry?
Is the second edited link reversible?

No, no difference for the end result. The services.msc method just provdes a user-friendly interface to work with. The Registry view can be daunting and difficult to navigate to the right keys and values.

Yes, everything is reversable. In fact, I would use it to postpone updates until you're sure they are OK... no bad reviews on the internet. In the end it is just an on/off switch that you control, instead of Windows.

See my post right above yours .

And , yes , one SHOULD fear the registry tweaks .
Well , except me .

I go where angels fear to tread.
But I can , I am allowed .

No registry tweaks and do not turn off updates .
Just hide the Windows update from Windows update .
Did that make sense ?


See my post 3 up .

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

A lot of this goes over my simpleton head....but I do know if I don't allow the recommended updates on my HP laptop it starts running very slow and often freezes. It gets to the point where I am barely able to do anything so I install the updates.
Then I'm unable to access some of the programmes and Apps.
I have to go through a long and time consuming process of uninstalling things, restarting my machine and then installing the latest versions of the programmes etc that I want and need.
This rarely works first time.

I have frequently been tempted to drop kick the machine down the street.

I have two old Sony Vaio's which I used predominantly for work stuff, I might get a mate of mine to cobble together one decent laptop out of the two of them.....or I may just buy a new one.

a reply to: Gothmog

LOL, yes, not for the faint-hearted.

I saw your link and it looks like a neat tool. However, reading through the comments I think it may not work with the Home Edition that DTOM has. Perhaps, the only option is to use the metered solution on a wifi connection... at least that's what the author, Brink, seems to suggest.

Read his last comment on page 10: www.tenforums.com...

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Officially, I do not think you can disable windows updates in whole on what i presume to be Win10 Home edition. There are ways to do this on pro edition as enterprise it admins would have a #-fit if microsoft shoe-horned patches up their ass. You can uninstall an update, check for updates, select a problematic update, and hide it. The long term problem you face is every cumulative security rollup hereafter will need to be shelved if you cannot fix the real problem.

Also on a side note dont buy HP consumer products. Their enterprise servers are top-shelf if you can get past the fact that they often require oem parts, particularly hard drives are a nagging point, but their cobsumer lines are pretty rough. I use samsung flexbook alpha 2 in 1 still right now and its flawless. Dozens of other much better choices.

originally posted by: Encia22
a reply to: Gothmog

LOL, yes, not for the faint-hearted.

I saw your link and it looks like a neat tool. However, reading through the comments I think it may not work with the Home Edition that DTOM has. Perhaps, the only option is to use the metered solution on a wifi connection... at least that's what the author, Brink, seems to suggest.

Read his last comment on page 10: www.tenforums.com...

Works with any version .
Even Windows 11 Insider Developer's version .

(Don't ask me how I know. I would have to tell you .)

a reply to: Freeborn

Yes, updates are an evil necessity. However, a lack of Windows updates shouldn't slow down your system. Most are security and driver updates.

What you speak of sounds more like updates from HP and specifically related to your computer model. Though, again, a lack of upgrading shouldn't be detrimental to the computer's performance.

Methinks there is something else going on.

ETA: In these cases my first port of call is your antivirus program and/or other security software you are running in parallel.

a reply to: drewlander

Officially, I do not think you can disable windows updates in whole

That's why I linked to that tool .
It is Microsoft provided , and only does single updates not the whole shabang .
Pick and choose type of deal .