Do liberals not see/hear how contradictional they sound in their views vs reality?

originally posted by: VierEyes
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

So, punish the woman for being fertile. Got it.

since when is Birth Control a punishment ? And an Abortion is not a positive representative of " Fertility " , the young woman getting an abortion is not putting her Fertility to use is she ?

Put her on Birth Control until she matures and develops self control, better that than Multiple abortions

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: VierEyes
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

So, punish the woman for being fertile. Got it.

since when is Birth Control a punishment ? And an Abortion is not a positive representative of " Fertility " , the young woman getting an abortion is not putting her Fertility to use is she ?

Put her on Birth Control until she matures and develops self control, better that than Multiple abortions

You want to punish her by putting a foreign object in her body. You want to punish her for being fertile.

BTW, self-control isn't always the issue. Birth control does fail. That's why I have a sister.

ETA, birth control is hard on the body. It tells the woman that she is already pregnant. There are also a number of negative side effects.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Wait I'm confused I thought men had absolutely no say when it comes to a woman's body or her choices ?

I thought anti-choice men rejected that notion.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Put her on Birth Control until she matures and develops self control, better that than Multiple abortions

The majority of women seeking abortions already have kids. www.mother.ly...

Maybe we should focus on the self control of the men that are knocking these women up, get them vasectomies until they develop better self control.

a reply to: VierEyes

If birth control is too hard on the body, please explain how an abortion is less traumatic.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: VierEyes

If birth control is too hard on the body, please explain how an abortion is less traumatic.

Abortions are also hard on the body. So is pregnancy and birth.

Why do you think women age faster than men? They go through unbelievable trauma to bring new life into the world.

originally posted by: VierEyes

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: VierEyes
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

So, punish the woman for being fertile. Got it.

since when is Birth Control a punishment ? And an Abortion is not a positive representative of " Fertility " , the young woman getting an abortion is not putting her Fertility to use is she ?

Put her on Birth Control until she matures and develops self control, better that than Multiple abortions

You want to punish her by putting a foreign object in her body. You want to punish her for being fertile.

BTW, self-control isn't always the issue. Birth control does fail. That's why I have a sister.

ETA, birth control is hard on the body. It tells the woman that she is already pregnant. There are also a number of negative side effects.

Wow your view on this is unbelievably twisted , that is some mental Gymnastics.

Just an FYI , when a woman gets an abortion it is so detrimental to there body there is a 50% chance of her never being able to have children after the abortion and it increases exponentially upon a second abortion .

But yes those negative side effects of Birth Control are far worse.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

I thought anti-choice men rejected that notion.

I'm not completely anti-choice.

Maybe we should focus on the self control of the men that are knocking these women up, get them vasectomies until they develop better self control.

So make male birth control , I would support it

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: VierEyes

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: VierEyes
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

So, punish the woman for being fertile. Got it.

since when is Birth Control a punishment ? And an Abortion is not a positive representative of " Fertility " , the young woman getting an abortion is not putting her Fertility to use is she ?

Put her on Birth Control until she matures and develops self control, better that than Multiple abortions

You want to punish her by putting a foreign object in her body. You want to punish her for being fertile.

BTW, self-control isn't always the issue. Birth control does fail. That's why I have a sister.

ETA, birth control is hard on the body. It tells the woman that she is already pregnant. There are also a number of negative side effects.

Wow your view on this is unbelievably twisted , that is some mental Gymnastics.

Just an FYI , when a woman gets an abortion it is so detrimental to there body there is a 50% chance of her never having children after the abortion and it increases exponentially upon a second abortion .

But yes those negative side effects of Birth Control are far worse.

Are you a woman? If not you have no concept of the difficult choices that have to be made when you bear a uterus.

originally posted by: VierEyes

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: VierEyes

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: VierEyes
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

So, punish the woman for being fertile. Got it.

since when is Birth Control a punishment ? And an Abortion is not a positive representative of " Fertility " , the young woman getting an abortion is not putting her Fertility to use is she ?

Put her on Birth Control until she matures and develops self control, better that than Multiple abortions

You want to punish her by putting a foreign object in her body. You want to punish her for being fertile.

BTW, self-control isn't always the issue. Birth control does fail. That's why I have a sister.

ETA, birth control is hard on the body. It tells the woman that she is already pregnant. There are also a number of negative side effects.

Wow your view on this is unbelievably twisted , that is some mental Gymnastics.

Just an FYI , when a woman gets an abortion it is so detrimental to there body there is a 50% chance of her never having children after the abortion and it increases exponentially upon a second abortion .

But yes those negative side effects of Birth Control are far worse.

Are you a woman? If not you have no concept of the difficult choices that have to be made when you bear a uterus.

Birth Control or Abortion ?

Is it really that difficult ?

a reply to: VierEyes

Really? I totally missed that when they sliced open my abdomen to remove my child ...

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: VierEyes

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: VierEyes

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: VierEyes
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

So, punish the woman for being fertile. Got it.

since when is Birth Control a punishment ? And an Abortion is not a positive representative of " Fertility " , the young woman getting an abortion is not putting her Fertility to use is she ?

Put her on Birth Control until she matures and develops self control, better that than Multiple abortions

You want to punish her by putting a foreign object in her body. You want to punish her for being fertile.

BTW, self-control isn't always the issue. Birth control does fail. That's why I have a sister.

ETA, birth control is hard on the body. It tells the woman that she is already pregnant. There are also a number of negative side effects.

Wow your view on this is unbelievably twisted , that is some mental Gymnastics.

Just an FYI , when a woman gets an abortion it is so detrimental to there body there is a 50% chance of her never having children after the abortion and it increases exponentially upon a second abortion .

But yes those negative side effects of Birth Control are far worse.

Are you a woman? If not you have no concept of the difficult choices that have to be made when you bear a uterus.

Birth Control or Abortion ?

Is it really that difficult ?

Yes, it is, especially considering the individual health care issues a woman faces.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Just an FYI , when a woman gets an abortion it is so detrimental to there body there is a 50% chance of her never being able to have children after the abortion and it increases exponentially upon a second abortion .

LOL
Who told you that BS?

If that was true, that there's a 50/50 of sterility after an abortion, why do anti-choice people complain about women having SO MANY abortions, that they're abusing their "right to an abortion"?

a reply to: SortingHat

Totalitarianism can only rise in a population that embraces lies.

a reply to: ChiefD

That kind of works both ways. I used to make a distinction between Democrat and Liberal Socialist, now does it really matter?
I'm pro 2nd Amendment to the Liberals that automatically makes me a murdering gun nut.
I'm proud of my heritage, to the Liberals that makes me a White Supremacist.
I don't think our schools have any right to present the LGBTXYZ viewpoint in the classroom, that makes me a hater.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Just an FYI , when a woman gets an abortion it is so detrimental to there body there is a 50% chance of her never being able to have children after the abortion and it increases exponentially upon a second abortion .

LOL
Who told you that BS?

If that was true, that there's a 50/50 of sterility after an abortion, why do anti-choice people complain about women having SO MANY abortions, that they're abusing their "right to an abortion"?

In 2019, 629,898 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas.

That's one year Sookie , That is more deaths than Cancer , That is more deaths than Heart Disease . That is abusing the right to abortions.

And A Doctor at an Abortion Clinic told me that Abortions affect sterility , My aunt had one abortion when she was young and became completely barren.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Just an FYI , when a woman gets an abortion it is so detrimental to there body there is a 50% chance of her never being able to have children after the abortion and it increases exponentially upon a second abortion .

LOL
Who told you that BS?

If that was true, that there's a 50/50 of sterility after an abortion, why do anti-choice people complain about women having SO MANY abortions, that they're abusing their "right to an abortion"?

In 2019, 629,898 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas.

That's one year Sookie , That is more deaths than Cancer , That is more deaths than Heart Disease . That is abusing the right to abortions.

And A Doctor at an Abortion Clinic told me that Abortions affect sterility , My aunt had one abortion when she was young and became completely barren.

I find it incredible that you would use the expression "abusing abortions". You act like the procedure is a routine thing for women.

No woman wants to have an abortion. She does it out of necessity because she can't afford another child, because she is not emotionally capable of having a child, because her birth control failed, because she has been raped, because the fetus was the result of incest, because the fetus endangers her life.

You would punish her for any one of the above factors simply because she is able to conceive.

You are a sadist.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

"In 2019, 629,898 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas."
That's one year Sookie , That is more deaths than Cancer , That is more deaths than Heart Disease . That is abusing the right to abortions.

That's down from approximately 1.5 million in 1990, to pick a random year. Abortion stats are down, and have been down.

According to your assertion, that would mean approximately 315,450 women became sterile in 2019 as a result of their abortions, and that is just not true.

In your opinion, what percentage of those 629,989 women were abusing their right to an abortion and what is your criteria for abuse?

And A Doctor at an Abortion Clinic told me that Abortions affect sterility , My aunt had one abortion when she was young and became completely barren.

According to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), the risk of death from childbirth is approximately 14 times higher than death associated with abortions.

www.healthline.com...-Abortions-are-considered-to-be-very-safe-pr ocedures

Did your aunt have access to a safe and legal abortion, or did she have a "back alley job"?

a reply to: VierEyes

TextNo woman wants to have an abortion. She does it out of necessity because she can't afford another child, because she is not emotionally capable of having a child, because her birth control failed, because she has been raped, because the fetus was the result of incest, because the fetus endangers her life. You would punish her for any one of the above factors simply because she is able to conceive.

You are a sadist.

That is in no way what I'm saying , Like absolutely no way at all what I'm saying .

You are out of your mind you know that right ?

a reply to: Sookiechacha

According to your assertion, that would mean approximately 315,450 women became sterile in 2019 as a result of their abortions, and that is just not true.

had a chance of Becoming Sterile Sookie , yes the 50% was hyperbole .

Did your aunt have access to a safe and legal abortion, or did she have a "back alley job"?

Back Alley Job ? what does that even mean ?

She went to an Abortion Clinic , beyond that I dont know.