Why Russians do not believe the propaganda that China wants to take over Siberia

a reply to: RussianTroll

"The West is a capricious mistress. She constantly cheats on a man, and at the same time demands eternal love from him."

Love this: diplomacy by Fortune Cookie, given police and military means have failed.

a reply to: RussianTroll

During the Cold War China was at odds with Russia. You can't have the leader of China and the Leader of Russia, with the goal of controlling the world, working together because neither leader will accept the number 2 position. China has called for the return of Vladivostok to Chinese control. I guess China learned from Russia that using history one can lay claim to anything.

The reason China is not full throttle defending Russia is because of the threats of sanctions. If China is sanctioned in the same way Russia is I doubt the current Chinese government would survive. Even Putin is scared to death of an uprising / coup.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Interesting noises are coming from China about preparing for war and these preparations are being made as we speak , Russia is now in Chinas economic sphere and is needed for the resources to keep all those factories working .

Have you read the speech of General Chi Hoatian jrnyquist.blog... in it he states that the 21 st century will be Chinese !

a reply to: stonerwilliam

Interesting, reading between the lines not Russia's but China's.

They believe they can become the dominant world power and with the idiocy and internationalism that bled our economy's of our industry's in the west as greedy corporations wanted to capitalize on the cheap labour China was offering as soon as the cold war was over ALL protections on our essential industry's vanished and China got ever stronger not off of it's own back but from the idiots in western governments that allowed those greedy corporation's to build China up while demolishing our own industry's as they wholesale moved there business and production out of the west.

Of course even if China had not turned sour and been planning pretty much this all along it would have still ended up being disastrous since without our own industry we eventually will no longer even be consumer society's but fall slowly into a third world status, those that call this levelling global economy's up are lying as it has inertia and once the bleed began it then became a haemorrhage of our industry, expertise and finally knowledge to these other economy's.

China played this like an old hand, being nice while holding the knife behind it's back he smiled and welcomed the idiots that brought there corporations, expertise, training and technology right into there hand's.

Now we are entering a NEW cold war and despite Russia's apparent weakness this new Cold War will not only be against Russia a vassal state of China in the making but against China itself and we have only gone and given them the best of our technology, built there factory's for them and destroyed our own so they have already won that battle without ever having to lift a hand in open aggression.

So how are our governments Stuffed as they are with utter incompetent right wing short sighted anti patriotic idiots and morons EVER going to rebuild our industry's to strengthen our nations back up to at least were they used to be, simple answer is they wont because they don't work for you or me they work for the corporations and the bankers and the bankers and corporations are likely to not give a damn about our nations so long as they survive.

We are in dire straits and it is all America's fault since the US started the investments in China, Started building it's factory's over there and exported it's company's to that nation which in turn in order to remain competitive caused every other western nation to do pretty much the same thing, now in Europe Britain once the birthplace of the industrial revolution has hardly any industry left, France, Italy pretty much the same has a tiny bit and only Germany is noteworthy since they for some reason seemed hell bent on maintaining there industry as if they could see what was coming down the line.

They said it was to exploit the cheap labour, that our company's had to export there jobs to those country's.

Greed led to this, the US caused it by arguing down other western nations import tariffs and industrial protectionism all while exporting it's own jobs to a Communist superpower on the side of the Pacific from it and US bankers and corporate heads burned the world down just so they could make a quick buck at the expense of our future.


IF and I do say IF our nations are serious about getting back on top, not just thinking we are but actually getting back up and maintaining our position, then we HAVE no if's and no but's we HAVE to rebuild our industrial base and stop haemorrhaging money to Asia (Specifically China and those under it's sphere of influence) and through the back door to Russia because that money then build's them up while impoverishing us.

a reply to: LABTECH767

It all started with a handshake back in 71 with Richard Nixon or as the manics put it Richard the 3rd in the white house ! we got sold out now 75 % of the worlds factories are in 1 country China and no matter what product you pick they produce more of it than the rest of the world combined .

And Mr RT thinks they will play nice when the hour comes , what the Russians fail to see is they are between a rock and a hard place and when that great leap comes they will be trampled on like everyone else .

they are busy picking up all the our former commonwealth countries cheaply and just like in WW2 it will be a war between the factories and resources

a reply to: stonerwilliam

They will use the Russians like they use everyone else and when the time is right they will pull the knife out from behind there back and stab them with it probably while the Russians are looking the other way.

(And no wonder so may regard Nixon as not just a crook but a traitor).

Why Russians do not believe the propaganda that China wants to take over Siberia

To state the effing obvious.

You can't trust commies.

To state another obvious fact.

You can't trust a billionaire oligarch ex KGB #.