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Why Russians do not believe the propaganda that China wants to take over Siberia

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posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RussianTroll


"After all, they support Russia and the Russians, and do not wish us death, do not impose "hellish sanctions" against us, do not send heavy weapons to their puppets that destroy Russian cities and kill Russian children."

What "Russian cities"?


Donetsk, Lugansk, Mariupol, Zaporozhye, Kharkiv, Sumy, Poltava, Chernihiv, Kherson, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk Odessa, Zhytomyr and many many others. Not to mention the mother of Russian cities Kyiv.

The Russian tsars did not know that they were founding Ukrainian cities
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posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

You mean 'Ukrainian" cities?

Mariupol -- you destroyed that one.



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RussianTroll

You mean 'Ukrainian" cities?

Mariupol -- you destroyed that one.


The Russians don't give a damn what your opinion is about our Russian cities.
And you can take your “Ukraine”, which you have been trying to create for 100 years, into your oblivion.



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

No wonder Russia is now a pariah State with an attitude like that.

And you can't "take" Ukraine. That much has become obvious.

Now, Mariupol. Did you or did you not destroy that city?



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RussianTroll

No wonder Russia is now a pariah State with an attitude like that.

And you can't "take" Ukraine. That much has become obvious.

Now, Mariupol. Did you or did you not destroy that city?


Outcasts are now a small part of humanity. This is the West.



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:32 PM
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Honestly I hope you are right and things are better for the russian people, havent had a bad interaction with russians.

But China is a ticking time bomb, their economy hangs by a thread, and they have a huge population problem that is going to come to a head FAST.

They WILL start a major war with the west as the dictator for life tries to full fill his ambitions before they have to few people of fighting age, and I hope they dont drag russia into it.



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Ukraine is not part of Russia, it´s childrens are not russians they are ukrainians.

Russia made terror famine in Ukraine called holodomor, orders from your beloved Stalin. And now Putin has been working on Holodomor II , bombing ukrainian grain silos, stole Ukrainian agricultural machinery and grain. Stopped Ukrainian exports by blocking Black Sea.. Creating artificial famine which will hit hard to Asia and also Africa along side with Ukraine. I wonder what goal in mind Putler has and what is China´s stand in all this. Is there another "Ribbentrop" deal made between Russia and China..

Famine and Terror is how Russia loves Ukraine.. History seems to repeat itself
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posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

To be fair, Russia seem to be doing their damnedest to destroy all those cities you mentioned.

Putin and his puppy dog RT insist that there's no such thing as Ukrainians and that they are in fact Russian.
So in true Russian fashion Russia is trying its best to kill as many Russians as it possibly can in order to restore Russia to its former glory.

Who wouldn't want to live under such benevolent and caring rule?



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: putnam6

Ukraine is the land of Russians, not Americans, British, French, Spaniards, and even more so Poles and Germans.

Borrell and Stoltenberg whine that the West is already running out of arms and ammunition. And you are going to fight with Russia? All of you are fighting NATO with Russia in Ukraine and are defeated. What will happen when the Russians reach the border with Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania? Just payback.



You do know you are bouncing all over the place Ukraine, Taiwan, and China.

Russia can barely hold what it has stolen now, but yea you go on believing Russia is gonna take over and hold all of Ukraine. Which is the point Comrade what does Russia have to offer China? good vodka and resources. Militarily however not so much. About the only Russian advantage is in the numbers in land power, but as we have seen the Russian tank, armored vehicles, and mobile artillery all are being decimated by western intelligence and drones.

I'll give you this Russia does have 11 frigates to zero for the US. but in all the really important ones the US not only has superior numbers but it's also highly likely its equipment is substandard to the American weapons.
www.globalfirepower.com...



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
Honestly I hope you are right and things are better for the russian people, havent had a bad interaction with russians.

But China is a ticking time bomb, their economy hangs by a thread, and they have a huge population problem that is going to come to a head FAST.

They WILL start a major war with the west as the dictator for life tries to full fill his ambitions before they have to few people of fighting age, and I hope they dont drag russia into it.


My advice to you is to listen less to CNN and BBC propaganda and just get back to reality.

Ever since the Obama era, at the presidential level, you have been assured that Russia is a colossus with feet of clay, a gas station country, that within a week the Russian economy will be torn to shreds, and so on. What is the result?
Likewise with China.
In fact, it is very beneficial for Russians and Chinese that you think of us in this way. Hitler in 1941, Napoleon in 1812, the Poles in 1611, the Teutonic Knights in 1242 thought the same. We all know what happened. The result is predictable.



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:43 PM
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a reply to: Freeborn

Quite a few folk, apparently.




posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: RussianTroll

Ukraine is not part of Russia, it´s childrens are not russians they are ukrainians.

Russia made terror famine in Ukraine called holodomor, orders from your beloved Stalin. And now Putin has been working on Holodomor II , bombing ukrainian grain silos, stole Ukrainian agricultural machinery and grain. Stopped Ukrainian exports by blocking Black Sea.. Creating artificial famine which will hit hard to Asia and also Africa along side with Ukraine. I wonder what goal in mind Putler has and what is China´s stand in all this. Is there another "Ribbentrop" deal made between Russia and China..

Famine and Terror is how Russia loves Ukraine.. History seems to repeat itself


You can repeat these mantras indefinitely. Then a Russian soldier will come, and all of you will race to negotiate with him. ))))))
This has always been the case in history.



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Not seeing any Ukrainians rushing to negotiate with them.

Are Russian soldiers coming to the UK any time soon?

By the way, your bracket key seems to be stuck?



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:50 PM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

To be fair, Russia seem to be doing their damnedest to destroy all those cities you mentioned.

Putin and his puppy dog RT insist that there's no such thing as Ukrainians and that they are in fact Russian.
So in true Russian fashion Russia is trying its best to kill as many Russians as it possibly can in order to restore Russia to its former glory.

Who wouldn't want to live under such benevolent and caring rule?



Just come, do not be lazy, to the Russian telegram-kangals, and see who is destroying the cities. There are a lot of videos, photos, interviews and other facts added daily.
If you are not afraid, you can see

Here
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t.me...

t.me...

t.me...

And there are many, many, many more photos and videos of burning houses and the corpses of civilians, the elderly, women and children, who were destroyed and died from weapons and ammunition supplied by the West.
Keep in mind, these Russian people will take revenge, and they will take revenge on you.
And don't say I didn't give you the facts.



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Well Russian love is Bloody .. isn´t it ?



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:54 PM
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originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: RussianTroll

Well Russian love is Bloody .. isn´t it ?


You are doing everything to make the Russians really love blood, your blood.



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:54 PM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: RussianTroll

Ukraine is not part of Russia, it´s childrens are not russians they are ukrainians.

Russia made terror famine in Ukraine called holodomor, orders from your beloved Stalin. And now Putin has been working on Holodomor II , bombing ukrainian grain silos, stole Ukrainian agricultural machinery and grain. Stopped Ukrainian exports by blocking Black Sea.. Creating artificial famine which will hit hard to Asia and also Africa along side with Ukraine. I wonder what goal in mind Putler has and what is China´s stand in all this. Is there another "Ribbentrop" deal made between Russia and China..

Famine and Terror is how Russia loves Ukraine.. History seems to repeat itself


You can repeat these mantras indefinitely. Then a Russian soldier will come, and all of you will race to negotiate with him. ))))))
This has always been the case in history.


That Russian soldier is likely gonna have to walk and swim to get to the negotiations, considering Russian mechanical issues with their convoys and supply routes.



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

I dont listen to them when it comes to this.

Russia is desperately needed by china because china has a power problem created by all the lockdowns, for now russia will keep them in coal and its win win.

The question you have to ask is what happens if that paradigm shifts out of win win, China is and always has been china first (Which in and of itself isnt a bad thing) but that means as soon as the dictator doesnt think he needs russia they will leave russia in the lurch, bank on it.



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RussianTroll

Not seeing any Ukrainians rushing to negotiate with them.

Are Russian soldiers coming to the UK any time soon?

By the way, your bracket key seems to be stuck?


And why should Russian soldiers enter Bitania. Freedom fighters from Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland will enter London.)))

And the Russians will help them with weapons and non-state military companies.



posted on Jun, 13 2022 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: RussianTroll

I dont listen to them when it comes to this.

Russia is desperately needed by china because china has a power problem created by all the lockdowns, for now russia will keep them in coal and its win win.

The question you have to ask is what happens if that paradigm shifts out of win win, China is and always has been china first (Which in and of itself isnt a bad thing) but that means as soon as the dictator doesnt think he needs russia they will leave russia in the lurch, bank on it.


Are you Chinese? I got the impression that you are both a Chinese, and a Russian, and a Ukrainian, and a person of any state.
Remain yourself and pass off the editorials of Western propaganda media as your opinion less.



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