For those who are unafraid.

a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

Yeah don't remember trials for attempted murder and rioting in Portland when they blocked federal employees in a building and tried to burn it down SEVERAL times

These idiots feigning outrage over this need to be dismissed immediately when they speak

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: scraedtosleep

Here's a link to the almost 1000 Capitol Breach cases. Each has a link to case documents.
DOJ Capitol Breach Cases.

This link has some individuals and the weapons they brought. You could then look at those individual cases on the DOJ link I provided for more info.

Washington Examiner

Once you have names you can also just Google the inviduals. Lots of news articles, updates on court cases, pdfs of the FBI interviews with the individuals etc.

This guy also reports on each court case going on with the Jan 6th defendants.

Twitter

Trending.
RAY EPPS
Where is he? Why was he not charged with anything? Why hasn't he been imprisoned for over a year? This is all a bunch of theatrical BS!!

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: scraedtosleep

I'm watching it. It's pretty compelling, so far.

But, I get why members here don't want to watch it. People don't want facts and evidence clouding their denial.

OH, but if it was Hillary.

Sorry -- couldn't resist -- haven't done a " . . . but, Hillary" in ages.

a reply to: Pitlover

This Ray Epps?

Just two days after the attack, when Mr. Epps saw himself on a list of suspects from Jan. 6, he called an F.B.I. tip line and told investigators that he had tried to calm Mr. Samsel down when they spoke, according to three people who have heard a recording of the call.

Then in late January of last year, in an interview with the F.B.I., Mr. Samsel said much the same thing, telling investigators that a man he did not know came up to him at the barricades and suggested he relax, according to a recording of the interview obtained by The New York Times.

Link

The former chapter leader of the Oath Keepers Ray Epps? The Ray Epps who testified to the Jan 6th committee?

But wait, I thought we were told it was Antifa behind the attack, or that it was just tourists wandering around the Capitol. Posts in this thread insist there was no violence and that the videos are fake. Yet, now it was violent and it's all a set up by one old guy who's a Fed? Can't even get a consistent narrative agreed upon.
One man is behind the entire mayhem of the day? He was the one who organized both the Proud Boys and all the Oath Keepers? He's the one who planned and amassed the weapons outside of DC as the quick recon force to be brought in once the Patriots were holding the building?

He's the one behind Daniel Rodriguez and their group from California organizing, doing training and then purchasing weapons before their trek across the country to the Capitol?

have they talked about Ray Epps yet?

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: Pitlover

This Ray Epps?

Just two days after the attack, when Mr. Epps saw himself on a list of suspects from Jan. 6, he called an F.B.I. tip line and told investigators that he had tried to calm Mr. Samsel down when they spoke, according to three people who have heard a recording of the call.

Then in late January of last year, in an interview with the F.B.I., Mr. Samsel said much the same thing, telling investigators that a man he did not know came up to him at the barricades and suggested he relax, according to a recording of the interview obtained by The New York Times.

Link

The former chapter leader of the Oath Keepers Ray Epps? The Ray Epps who testified to the Jan 6th committee?

But wait, I thought we were told it was Antifa behind the attack, or that it was just tourists wandering around the Capitol. Posts in this thread insist there was no violence and that the videos are fake. Yet, now it was violent and it's all a set up by one old guy who's a Fed? Can't even get a consistent narrative agreed upon.
One man is behind the entire mayhem of the day? He was the one who organized both the Proud Boys and all the Oath Keepers? He's the one who planned and amassed the weapons outside of DC as the quick recon force to be brought in once the Patriots were holding the building?

He's the one behind Daniel Rodriguez and their group from California organizing, doing training and then purchasing weapons before their trek across the country to the Capitol?

no, this one.
www.revolver.news...

www.revolver.news...

a reply to: network dude

Ah yes, as the article in your link states, the same feds protecting Epps are also protecting Stewart Rhodes. The same Stewart Rhodes who was charged with seditious conspiracy? Great protection.
The article has false info.

I watched alongside a video of people in black breaking in and immediately changing into MAGA gear.

They won't show that one, though.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Ksihkehe
trial?

LOL

Trials, get a load of this guy.

Soory.

Please dont send me to the DC gulag!

Detective Comics.

or Defective Comedians.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

The Kenosha riots were during the summer of 2020, and the arrests and proposed laws are cited above.

Any hearings on that?

What kind of hearings are you proposing? Do you even know what congressional hearings are for?

What is a Congressional Hearing?

A hearing is a meeting or session of a Senate, House, joint, or special committee of Congress, usually open to the public, to obtain information and opinions on proposed legislation, conduct an investigation, or evaluate/oversee the activities of a government department or the implementation of a Federal law.

www.govinfo.gov...

Oh goodie! So you mentioned hearings about Floyd and Blake, the career criminals.

You neatly sidestepped the question though.

Nobody is interested in hearings about loser PoS that refuse to comply with lawful police order, fight cops and end up dead, except nihilists and promoters of anarchy.

What we're saying is, for the phenomenon of "protesting police" (a.k.a. showing up in groups at night in cities, burning, looting and destroying property, why were there no hearings about this destructive "movement", and why were the heads of the FBI, DHS, ATF, etc etc put on the hot seat to find out how this was not quashed.

You and I both know what congressional hearings are for: grandstanding and vote gathering (not to be confused with vote harvesting, you know).

Here, this thread will help you better understand our point.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: network dude

Ah yes, as the article in your link states, the same feds protecting Epps are also protecting Stewart Rhodes. The same Stewart Rhodes who was charged with seditious conspiracy? Great protection.
The article has false info.

damn, those videos take almost two hours to watch. You must be the guy in the OP. Afraid of alternative views.

But at least you folks stay consistent. All of those I have seen on the right, think those who were violent on the 6th, need to be punished. The MAGA movement was completely and totally against all that rioting and violence. Those who were hitting cops are and were idiots who should be in jail. But that's not enough for you. EVERYONE on the right needs to be punished.

The same clowns that lied about Russia for 4 years ... you are going to fall hook line and sinker for the same dog and pony show only this time about "Insurrection"? What did Dubya say about fool me once?

Didn’t see the video of people walking between the velvet ropes.
Didn’t see the video of Capitol Police letting people in by holding doors and posing for selfies.
Didn’t see the Q-Anon Shaman anywhere and saw him everywhere that day.

I may have missed it, but shouldn’t there be a video when the Congress people remaining in chambers were called to attention of the situation for calm and orderly evacuation in groups?

I may have missed how they extracted information from the video with no audio of the garage meeting framed just like the DeepThroat meetings in All The King’s Men, lip reading? Confession after hours of duress without a lawyer present?

I may have missed the explanation of how two RINO’s hand picked by the Speaker of the House while rejecting every submission by the Minority Leader at the same time is legitimately considered bipartisan.

Saw video of Proud Boys saying Trump stirred them up at the end in exchange for probation sentences when their Star witness said all the Proud Boys went to the Capitol Building and skipped the Trump speech.

If there was an armed Quick Response Force outside DC to extract Trump in case of emergency by the Oath Keepers, there needs to be more than vague allusions to it. I need to hear so legitimate details of how these Oath Keeper are going to enter the only city in the US that can actually be locked down and extract the most valuable target in the world from one of the highest trained security guard teams in the world during a lockdown of that magnitude. And gonna need more than a couple 50 year olds holding desert camp AR’s with one person playing mobile ammo cache with 6-8 magazines in a backpack.

Caroline Edwards looked like she was being moved from the steps by the same “vicious civilians” she fought and not fellow Capitol Police Officers, but the video stopped right there.

She was able to get back in the fracas then and there but has been unable to work since Jan6.

If she was untrained for Hand to Hand (possible but not probable) or just the level of Hand to Hand needed, then how do we know the guy that shot into the crowd had reasonable firearms training. Seems Ashli was flanked by other officers and the whole thing sounds more like panic fire more than anything.

If you want to tell a story, tell the whole story. If you want to frame a tale, this is how frame a tale. But it isn’t changing anyone’s mind, because it isn’t believable.

a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened
Has any GOP member or any other member submitted a bill to request a commission on this?

I must have missed it if they did and it failed. Maybe you should contact your Senator.

I'd be interested in hearing who those unidentified law enforcement were in the unmarked cars who were snatching people off the street, holding them, but never charging them, then releasing them with no paperwork.

a reply to: network dude

Huh? I'm not the one claiming videos are fake. I'm not the one claiming it never even happened.

Who is blaming everyone on the right? There is a difference between people who are on the right and the cult of Trump. Just as there are differences between those on the left and the radical left.

The Maga movement is not for those punished who were violent. The Maga movement claims it was a set up, false and never even happened. Suddenly the violent offenders are "political prisoners" being tortured in prison. That prisons somehow suddenly only have horrible conditions now that Patriots are in them.


Why were GOP senators seeking pardons after the 6th? That is going to be very interesting. I mean nothing happened right? Or wait, it did happen but it was Antifa. Oh, no wait, it did Happen but it was the feds.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: network dude

Huh? I'm not the one claiming videos are fake. I'm not the one claiming it never even happened.

Who is blaming everyone on the right? There is a difference between people who are on the right and the cult of Trump. Just as there are differences between those on the left and the radical left.

The Maga movement is not for those punished who were violent. The Maga movement claims it was a set up, false and never even happened. Suddenly the violent offenders are "political prisoners" being tortured in prison. That prisons somehow suddenly only have horrible conditions now that Patriots are in them.

I don't think you grasp this at all. Most of us on the right, know this happened, know there were stupid people who did bad things, and think those who did bad things should be punished. But we have seen enough evidence that there were people who were sent in to rile up the crowd, and cause unrest. Kind of like a setup. Now that setup doesn't remove the fact that people did stupid things, but it does help put this on context. We know about half of what happened that day. The half the democrats have told. I think and hope that after the change of power, the other side of this will emerge with the right questions asked to the right people.

But as I said, even if this is all there is, you have a small group of idiots doing something stupid and a large group of patriots condemning that stupidity. But that isn't enough for you.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened
Has any GOP member or any other member submitted a bill to request a commission on this?

I must have missed it if they did and it failed. Maybe you should contact your Senator.

I'd be interested in hearing who those unidentified law enforcement were in the unmarked cars who were snatching people off the street, holding them, but never charging them, then releasing them with no paperwork.

Are you sure they released them with no paperwork?

Or are those people still sitting down with the Jan 6 "rioters" in their cells, with no charges, for a few months?

a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

No one from Jan 6th is sitting in jail with no charges. I don't know where you get that info from. You also are welcome to review the DOJ cases themselves.

a reply to: network dude

This "small group" invaded the Capitol with the sole purpose of stopping the electoral process and plans of holding the Capitol building for weeks if necessary.

This is much more than a riot.

I guess the GOP should have approved that independent commission then right? If they wanted answers, if it was Antifa.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: network dude

This "small group" invaded the Capitol with the sole purpose of stopping the electoral process and plans of holding the Capitol building for weeks if necessary.

This is much more than a riot.

I guess the GOP should have approved that independent commission then right? If they wanted answers, if it was Antifa.

and that small group should be punished if they broke the law. it's like you can't grasp that most of the right didn't do anything wrong. Even a large group of the people who were there that day. Even some who were in the Capitol, following the crowd after the Capitol police opened the doors to let them in. What is it that you want from this?