Real losses of Russian troops in Ukraine

Russia's biggest loss in Ukraine is the end of their hyped up military strength.

Now the world can see how bad the military performed.

Too bad it took so many deaths to show.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: IAMTAT

Will you say the same of Ukraine?

The thread title is about Russia.

Is it not ?

My-my...so defensive.
Never mind...I'll just leave you to your bubble of ignorance.

OK

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: IAMTAT

Will you say the same of Ukraine?

The thread title is about Russia.

Is it not ?

My-my...so defensive.
Never mind...I'll just leave you to your bubble of ignorance.

OK

Stay cozy.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: IAMTAT

Will you say the same of Ukraine?

The thread title is about Russia.

Is it not ?

My-my...so defensive.
Never mind...I'll just leave you to your bubble of ignorance.

OK

Stay cozy.

Will do.

Hell RT I enjoy your posts I really do, they are informative, and I love hearing about Russian history and such.

I admire your mental contortions, research, and presentation skills but after you quit patting Putin on the back, We still have a few questions.

You know what they are Ive written them on numerous threads...

So how many innocent civilian Ukrainian non-nazis have to die before Putin feels secure enough in Moscow or at his palace residence on the Black Sea at Cape Idokopas?

What is Putin's tolerance level? how many innocent Ukrainians need to die to get every member of the nazi hoard remaining?

When is Russia leaving? and if you aren't leaving what territory are you gonna now annex as Independent?

Everything else is BS rationalization and yes both sides do this, but let's not kid ourselves both sides want this to continue.

Putin because after the international scorn he isn't going to be denied his complete spoils of victory

The American side of NATO wants the specter of World War hanging over all of us atleast through the next election cycle.

The sheer fact that you are minimizing the numbers of losses, means Putin is highly likely to send more of those crack Russian soldiers into the meat grinder.

We were told earlier the Special Military operation was going according to plan. Therefore how long does the plan have left? what objectives are left how much longer does it take mighty Russia to smite the 30,000 nazi menace? How far are they through that number?

a reply to: putnam6

In reality, Russia is not at war with Ukraine. This is a legal fact. Ukraine did not declare war on Russia, Russia did not declare war on Ukraine. There is no casus belli.

Let's be honest, Russia is at war with Western countries. And this is no longer a proxy war. If common sense prevails in the West, the war in Ukraine will end very quickly. But the West does not want this yet, because the goal of the US and Britain is not even Russia, but Europe. Destroy Europe, lure all European business to itself, destroy competitors and rob - this is the goal. Russia needs Europe, but if Europe itself does not want to survive, then Russia will not be able to do anything.

Britain did not do Brexit for nothing.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: putnam6

In reality, Russia is not at war with Ukraine. This is a legal fact. Ukraine did not declare war on Russia, Russia did not declare war on Ukraine. There is no casus belli.

Let's be honest, Russia is at war with Western countries. And this is no longer a proxy war. If common sense prevails in the West, the war in Ukraine will end very quickly. But the West does not want this yet, because the goal of the US and Britain is not even Russia, but Europe. Destroy Europe, lure all European business to itself, destroy competitors and rob - this is the goal. Russia needs Europe, but if Europe itself does not want to survive, then Russia will not be able to do anything.

Britain did not do Brexit for nothing.

You make it sound like if Russia were to withdraw today Ukraine and NATO would continue the attack across Russian borders and make a march on Moscow. I mean I have no doubt sanctions will continue regardless, so until Putin reaches his goals he has no impetus to even begin negotiations

On top of your justification for the invasion is the nazi menace in Ukraine and this now sounds like you are minimalizing it?

You know full well even if it is US UK/RUSSIA which side is currently killing more innocents in Ukraine? please note I said Ukraine you can't pull other current or previous America hotspots out of your анус

a reply to: putnam6

Let's just look at where NATO troops and Russian troops were 25 years ago, and where they are now. In my opinion, this is a great illustration of who is the aggressor and who is defending himself.

It's hilarious to me how Ukrainians always think that Ukrainian propaganda isn't widespread within their own country, they completely dismiss the notion.

The Russians always think that Russian propaganda isn't widespread within their own country, they completely dismiss the notion.

Meanwhile the rest of the world is sitting back watching you two Karens have a purse fight in the middle of traffic over who is the bigger aggressor.

I'll tell ya right now whatever the truth might be in regard to losses on either side, the world's not rooting for Russia. The bear has blackballed herself into the stone age for decades to come, other nations are jumping at the first chance they have to alleviate themselves of Russia's usefulness.

Also, here's a cursory reminder that communist China is a greater threat to America than the Reds trying to domesticate each other again.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Britain did not do Brexit for nothing.

If you are using your 'knowledge' of Brexit as some sort of basis for your 'insightfulness' it would seem that its based on a complete misunderstanding.

You seem be implying that the UK left the EU in order to somehow destabilise and control Europe in collusion with the USA?
The problem with that is that the whole British Establishment and elites wanted the UK to Remain in the EU.
The US President at the time wanted the UK to stay in the EU - as did the current POTUS.
Most UK Industrialists and Bankers wanted the UK to Remain in the EU.
Everybody wanted the UK to stay in the EU......

Except the British people, who voted for Brexit.
The elites and Establishment were mortified....but the British people wanted out of the rotten, amoral monstrosity that the EU has become.

If there were any great plans they were well and truly scuppered.

So your theory is based on a very basic and fundamental error and mistake.....which automatically renders it incorrect.

a reply to: AstroDog

No need to rank yourself among the civilized majority. countries that supported sanctions against Russia and condemned it are an overwhelming minority. most countries of the world are for Russia, even despite the enormous pressure on them. No one is afraid of you anymore, except for LGBT representatives of Europe.

Yes, Japan is still with you. Recently, Japan did not invite Russia to the anniversary of the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But the US was invited.
Hence, the civilized countries of the world conclude that in order for Japan to respect you, it is necessary to subject it to a nuclear bombardment.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: RussianTroll

Britain did not do Brexit for nothing.

If you are using your 'knowledge' of Brexit as some sort of basis for your 'insightfulness' it would seem that its based on a complete misunderstanding.

You seem be implying that the UK left the EU in order to somehow destabilise and control Europe in collusion with the USA?
The problem with that is that the whole British Establishment and elites wanted the UK to Remain in the EU.
The US President at the time wanted the UK to stay in the EU - as did the current POTUS.
Most UK Industrialists and Bankers wanted the UK to Remain in the EU.
Everybody wanted the UK to stay in the EU......

Except the British people, who voted for Brexit.
The elites and Establishment were mortified....but the British people wanted out of the rotten, amoral monstrosity that the EU has become.

If there were any great plans they were well and truly scuppered.

So your theory is based on a very basic and fundamental error and mistake.....which automatically renders it incorrect.

I didn't understand something? In Britain, everyone was suppressed, all institutions and all structures and businesses.
2 questions: who were suppressed and is there democracy in Britain?

a reply to: IAMTAT

Soviets were another issue entirely. Fortunately, we sent them to the ash heap of history.

How can you tell the difference between Soviet Russia and Putin's Russia ? , other than power is more centralised now than it was then.

originally posted by: AstroDog
It's hilarious to me how Ukrainians always think that Ukrainian propaganda isn't widespread within their own country, they completely dismiss the notion.

The Russians always think that Russian propaganda isn't widespread within their own country, they completely dismiss the notion.

Meanwhile the rest of the world is sitting back watching you two Karens have a purse fight in the middle of traffic over who is the bigger aggressor.

I'll tell ya right now whatever the truth might be in regard to losses on either side, the world's not rooting for Russia. The bear has blackballed herself into the stone age for decades to come, other nations are jumping at the first chance they have to alleviate themselves of Russia's usefulness.

Also, here's a cursory reminder that communist China is a greater threat to America than the Reds trying to domesticate each other again.

Ummm...the world is certainly not contained within the borders of Europe...and the US...

Matter of fact...there are more countries and a much greater percentage of world population that are now forming their own economic...trade...and reserve currencies...outside of the petro dollar and Euro exchanges...

Apparently there is an extreme lack of trust in current western reserve currencies growing as a result of the sanctions and open talk of pirating sovereign cash reserves held in western financial institutions...

The reality is that this only serves to create multipolar economic zones not reliant on western currency trading...

Which is actually a good thing...



YouSir

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: IAMTAT

Soviets were another issue entirely. Fortunately, we sent them to the ash heap of history.

How can you tell the difference between Soviet Russia and Putin's Russia ? , other than power is more centralised now than it was then.

Really? Is communist Britain under the absolute rule of a queen trying to teach democracy to democracies? Funny!

a reply to: RussianTroll

Really? Is communist Britain under the absolute rule of a queen trying to teach democracy to democracies? Funny!

Communist Britain ....

Well first I don't believe either side. As to Russia, you can't lie in your propaganda wars and then say something like this is the truth...lol You guys inflate and deflate at will, so I'll just wait and see.

Some tell tell signs is there are a lot of Russians freaking out over the number of people not coming back to their families and it might not be 10 times RT's number but it is a hell of a lot higher.

The other side to all this is there is 10 times or more the number seriously injured to the point they are done fighting and not having a normal life ever again in many cases. So ya, lets look at this in a year.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: RussianTroll

Really? Is communist Britain under the absolute rule of a queen trying to teach democracy to democracies? Funny!

Communist Britain ....

Of course!
I see no difference between the Queen of Britain and the General Secretary of the Communist Party.
Totalitarianism is the same. You yourself wrote that before Brexit they crushed everyone)))

a reply to: RussianTroll

2 questions: who were suppressed.....

Of course some things are suppressed.
The political elites and Establishment try their best to maintain the status quo along with all the social inequalities that go with it.
Never said things were perfect in the UK, lots of issues....but its a damn sight better than most places/countries.

....and is there democracy in Britain?

Obviously there must be some semblance of democracy as the British people voted for Brexit against the wishes of all the major political parties and the majority of people in positions of power and influence.

There are many things wrong with the UK's parliamentary and electoral processes and procedures and they need reform....but again, they are a damn sight better than many places.

a reply to: RussianTroll

I see no difference between the Queen of Britain and the General Secretary of the Communist Party.

I think the Queen is probably better dressed.

Totalitarianism is the same. You yourself wrote that before Brexit they crushed everyone)))

There was an answer they wanted but we didn't give it to them , Boris Johnson got elected because he said he would deliver Brexit and he did , Democracy.