Old And New World Order

a reply to: AaarghZombies


Great assessment. I think this very accurate. I am working on something a bit more in depth that draws a corollary between gnostic thought and conspiracy theories.

It's almost like the theories themselves are a form or reflection of neopolitical gnosticism. The mistrust of the gnostic demiurge who rules the physical world has been transmuted into the mistrust of a group of corrupt human "elites" who are secretly ruling the world.

Wash, rinse, repeat. Just like you said.

a reply to: gkskg

If you were not trying to put words in my mouth, I do apologize for coming off aggressive. I hope you understand the reason it was necessary. Anymore, you have to make your intent well known and quash any comments that are meant to distract away from the points you are trying to make.

I agree with your description of Gates, however, I think YOU underestimate what having that much wealth and as many connections as he has can get you. If he isn’t a cog in the tyrannical power structure then why is he buying up farmland, trying to advocate for the clot shot, and talking about how much he loves what china is doing? Sounds a lot like a person advocating for and working towards the WEF’s goals to me.

Sure, there are cultural differences between America and China, and we have yet to experience the cultural whitewash and oppression of will that they have undergone to bring about the current state of affairs, but it should be fairly obvious to anyone with a complete picture of global affairs that China is a poster child for what the powerful in this world hope to accomplish everywhere. Don’t turn a blind eye to the current workings of a western version of the social credit score, the ever increasing security state we live within, the legalization of propaganda, the online censorship, and the lies spouted freely and marked as science. If you do know that this is going on, and you still say there is nothing to it, you are either ignorant, dumb, or on the other side. I say that, but know you don’t seem stupid or ignorant to me.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

It is A solution, and one I am willing and well-equipped enough to make. If need be I could build a shelter out of logs, thatch, and mud. I could hunt, grow fruits and veggies, and collect water for myself. I know how to take an old washer and make a generator from either wind power or moving water. I know how to set up hydroponic grows, set up peer to peer networks for off grid communication, and how to repurpose random tech for my own purposes. I have the skills. Most people don’t. Most people couldn’t survive if you just threw them into nature anymore. So, the question still remains, how do we solve the problem?

a reply to: andr3w68

it will be just like the old order, when ones rises up it last for ever how long it gonna last until people rise up, either violently, or the order screws up kinda like russia did during afghanistan which many scholars say was the beginning of the end for the ussr.

i have no doubts before it's all said done there will be a one world government, question is what kind, a totalitarian one where people are classed, or one where all people are seen as equal.

i also don't doubt that there will be a few more periods where a totalitarian one will be in place before there will be a united world that lives in peace.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

I agree that there is an obvious path that will be followed. Now that it is becoming public that there are other beings in this universe, being territorial apes will finally be seen as a bad look. There will be a unified, world spanning government. The true question is which way will it go, as you say. The unfortunate outlook is that current affairs are leading us to the negative outcome we’d all like to avoid. So, again, what can be done?

Unless we focus on how to initiate change and then work towards it, we are doomed to repeat the oppression and controlled existence that has been the fate of so many humans on this big ball of water and rock.

a reply to: andr3w68

I understand the need for clarification, no worries. And you are correct that "putting words in someone's mouth" is a tactic to distract.

Bill Gates is concerned with one thing, himself. He has all the money in the world and now he wants use it to try and cement his own legacy. He wants his name on buildings and his face on a stamp one day. I guarantee he is more concerned with how history will view him in 100 years than he is with establishing a new world order . These people are extremely selfish, it is their fatal flaw and Achilles heel.

I agree that there is a push to strip and infringe upon the rights of the individual. I am not denying that at all. We need to rely less on the government to fix problems. But I don't agree that the USA can be controlled and lied to in the same way that China treats it's citizens. Apples to oranges as the saying goes.

If the US tried a social credit system, it would be trolled to absurdity and become fodder for pranksters and comedians.

a reply to: gkskg

First step was unified NWO Central Banks.

Second step is controlling supply/demand.

Third step is to control large population areas with authoritarianism.

Steps 2 & 3 solidify guaranteed profit from commerce.

etc.etc. 💎🥥

a reply to: gkskg

What if, as full of himself and arrogant as he is, the strategy is to cement his name in history by being a big player in the NWO? I’m not 100% on it by any means, today 100% certainty is unobtainable. Though, to me it makes sense, and in his current state he is very well equipped to do just that. I agree that he is truly a despicable and self centered person, but he is also very intelligent.

You say it couldn’t happen in America, yet it very well can and has been happing in slower more bite sized ways for years. TSA after 911 and covid-passports both altered the way we HAD to do things. Though we are currently still free enough to outwardly oppose them, that doesn’t mean freedoms weren’t taken away that we will never get back. By slowly whittling away our freedoms they will certainly one day win…

Or, you know, they could create some catastrophe that makes the general populace afraid and sends them looking for “help” that comes in the form of oppression disguised as aid, transforming things overnight. Don’t forget, martial law does exist and is lawful, situation permitting.

a reply to: andr3w68

His intelligence is limited to binary logic, discrete mathematics, and data structures. His perceived intelligence is part of the false mystique. He believes his own bull **** as well. He isn't a great thinker, no matter what he wants to be or have people believe, he is a computer programmer and an opportunistic capitalist with a family pedigree
That is all.

He does not have the power or foresight to do any of the things people are attributing to him. It's a big poker bluff. He benefits if people believe he is capable of some grand plan to rewrite the rules of the world. Fear is a powerful motivator. Fearing what people think he (and any other conspirator) can do strengthens them in a sense.

I could be wrong, but I think that if we continue to speculate on the power of the elite, then we give them some of ours.

The old world order was slavery; the new world order was land ownership; such a thing becomes feudalism... and has been occurring since around 550 BC/BCE or however you want to play with calendars since the earth turned long before humans kept track of it doing so...before then it was follow the herd and the herd these days can be anything those that like to play 'futures' pay A lot of money to try and influence the herd in a specific direction or cattle pen to reap what they've projected for the future... aka the stock market.

Currently the ground war is "intellectual property" that people have been feuding over or basically greed and capitalizing on both sides of it using illusion or delusion to keep it turning... what "it" is though depends on perspective; and why children seem so much happier they aren't worried about the government they aren't worried about anything as so called adult is worried about... when getting to be an adult one sees that it isn't child or adult being the difference in happiness; It's the worry. Not worried about it basically just means happier... dropping whatever "it" is that doesn't make oneself happier is wise to continue picking up what doesn't make oneself happy is foolish... and according to Confucius: "Neither the wise nor the foolish can be budged."

a reply to: gkskg

This is obviously conjecture and opinion, but I think it may be a reference to a new age of humanity. New forms of government, world economic systems, etc.

Stone age, bronze age, iron age... hunter/ gatherer, feudalism, capitalism, ect. Tribal systems of government, monarchs, democracies, ect.

I would imagine they truly mean to bring in a new order to the world.

a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

I was hitching a ride back in 65 or so, and got picked by a dude in a Rolls Royce, who worked for the BBC, after he tried to suggest that since he was a Homo. He thought some playtime would be nice. I let him down gently, as it was a nice ride. When that was out of the way the conversation got on to automation, in my naivety i said wouldn't it be great to get all this spare time to do other things. He just said they will just get rid of the working class. I don't think anything has changed since then and he was right. The truth is self-evident, that's why I remember the conversation after fifty years. The attitude of the upper-middle classes with regard to the working class is contempt, They breed consume and want too much money for what they do they are also, for the most part, considered idiots. This attitude is entrenched and has already dehumanized the vast working population, so get ready.

a reply to: Crowfoot

Pragmatic; and you are spot on about the children not having worry. My two youngest wake up everyday without a care, excited and ready to "do stuff".

a reply to: filthyphilanthropist

I think this answers my original post succinctly and without too much baggage attached.

a reply to: anonentity

Do you think that their contempt for the working class is modern? Or inherited from the aristocrat/peasant dynamic of the past?

a reply to: gkskg

I'd say they are wanting to wash your feet off so you can enjoy it just as much and not be so wearied by it.

Weary being the result of all previous worry.

a reply to: gkskg

It could be just the human condition, wealth and everything else is relative. Starving people make you feel better because at least it is not you starving. keeping up with the joneses sort of caper. But what would really be a peculiarity is how the narrative of this and other things is taken over. For instance. myocarditis from the vaccine..it gets controlled by " posters saying kids can have strokes as well." Abortions are caused by the vaccine....You now have a government-caused abortion issue to of course control the narrative. Along with women saying they don't want kids anyway and sterilization is a good idea. Anything developing organically from these troubled times is quickly narrated into a deflection argument. People protest they become anti-vaxxers, although they have had multiple vaccines themselves. That's why I am coming to the conclusion that swaying the majority of public opinion in favor of a particular narrative is a far more precise art than it used to be ,of course, free speech , and independent journalism has to be destroyed. why would this be done? to set the scene for something that will have an easier passage that would under normal scrutiny never see the light of day.

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a reply to: gkskg

I think that you're over thinking this. Its just regular ordinary partisan politics.

People split up into factions and then look after their own selfish interests.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: gkskg

It could be just the human condition, wealth and everything else is relative. Starving people make you feel better because at least it is not you starving. keeping up with the joneses sort of caper. But what would really be a peculiarity is how the narrative of this and other things is taken over. For instance. myocarditis from the vaccine..it gets controlled by " posters saying kids can have strokes as well." Abortions are caused by the vaccine....You now have a government-caused abortion issue to of course control the narrative. Along with women saying they don't want kids anyway and sterilization is a good idea. Anything developing organically from these troubled times is quickly narrated into a deflection argument. People protest they become anti-vaxxers, although they have had multiple vaccines themselves. That's why I am coming to the conclusion that swaying the majority of public opinion in favor of a particular narrative is a far more precise art than it used to be ,of course, free speech , and independent journalism has to be destroyed. why would this be done? to set the scene for something that will have an easier passage that would under normal scrutiny never see the light of day.

The big difference is that some people see these as independent systems based on social trends while others see it as being an organized effort.

For example, historically a small number of governments have used starvation and destitution as a weapon to control a populace. I know, I lived under a regime that practiced this at various times.

However, in the vast majority of cases it's actually in the government's interest to bring up the standard of living of its people, not to keep them down, because the more you push a people down the more that they are likely to rebel against you. Fat satisfied suburban consumers are much easier to govern than starving peasants because the over stuffed suburbanites want to preserve the status quo.

Sometimes governments do things that seem to be aimed at keeping people down, but it's usually through incompetence or because they are unwilling to admit that they are wrong, rather than a deliberate effort.

It's like how inner cities are often dependant on welfare payout, while rural areas are dependant on farming subsidies. This isn't because both Republicans and Democrats want to control the population by enforcing poverty. It's because they've followed ideological policies for so long that they can't change them without admitting that they made mistakes.