Pfizer - Documents released 80k - 12% efficacy. Pfizer knew it killed the unborn

whenever you bring stuff like this to the table... there's always that do-gooder type to say... "Oh, so thousands of politicians, lawmakers, corporations all over the world... EVERYONE is in on a mass extinction level plan to kill as much people as possible? even their own family?"

By the time you bring up the bible and how all the Christians preach and believe 1/3 is supposed to die by God's almighty sadism... they already write you off as some nutjob.

Why would a Christian believe the word of God to be true but believe the vaccine is not meant to kill? It's like 9/11 was an exhibition to see if there would be massive revolt or will "the people" simply shrug it off and allow it's tyrannical political regime continue to take advantage of a status-quo and social norm?

How much longer ... how many more dead is needed before change is implemented on these old world killing machines of religion and government?

Sometimes I get this eerie feeling the world is a Jonestown. We stick around because we are promised free kool-aid.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: DaRAGE

Copy and paste the relevant sections. I'm not downloading some random files from the Internet.

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a reply to: DaRAGE

The way I see it, Pfizer has been operating a continuing criminal enterprise for decades at least.

They pleaded guilty to criminal medical fraud back in 2004 and again in 2009, and are still doing the same thing because only fines were leveled in those cases, no jail time for the humans in charge.

Pfizer is not alone in the pharmaceutical world in operating a continuing criminal enterprise. The Sackler Family and Purdue Pharmaceutical with Oxy Contin have done the same thing.

originally posted by: optimisticcontrarian

How much Facts do you have to see before you open your damn eyes? Or are you just so emotionally and intellectually invested that NONE of the truth will make a difference because it would mean that you WERE FOOLED!

And your ego just cannot handle that

The problem is time and time again when I look into all the so called evidence here on ATS it takes me down a rabbit hole of misinformation, and I just do not want to play the same game over and over. So, it isn't that I don't want the truth its that I don't want whatever a number of people here push daily in their confimination bias. Maybe somewhere in you ton of crap there might be some truth, but boy I do not want to waste my time looking for it.

None of you are experts in any of this...Just grabbing anything that fits your extreme narratives and ignoring anything else that doesn't fit it, so the fact that I do not want to follow you all seems to be more of an ego issue on your all end then mine. There are smarter people out there then you all and they provide a much better picture to what is going on, and I'm not talking about big Pharma before you all start to screech it as you all seem to do.

I agree with much and have expressed it, but because I'm not at some hyper level it is all ignored and labeled big Pharma shrill. It is one thing to say people can die from the vaccine, it is another to suggest millions are dying all around us and 10 years down the road your body will basically just blowup or some other extreme exaggeration.

If a group needed to convince themselves they did the right thing it sure seems like a good number of non-vaccers are that group as they put in tremendous effort in an extreme way to prove they were right not to get it.

Most people ignore the despicable crimes of these maniacs because they still have something to live for, to focus on.

They have children to raise, bills to pay, and they are reluctant to throw their lives away on a whim...no matter how frustrated they are.
However, once they lose their job, and prices go through the roof, and the cease to feel like they have self worth or dignity, then you suddenly see people with nothing to lose.

People who no longer care about any consequences, who are angry and determined for justice.
If, or when, that happens, the criminals who run our societies will run away like they cowards they are or they'll be forced to defend their behaviour and will be held accountable.
With the current leadership in the U.S it is
becoming more and more uncertain if the average man and woman can put up with much more.

All the elites, be they the bankster class, the politicians, the agitators in academia, are playing a dangerous game.

originally posted by: MikhailBakunin

How much longer ... how many more dead is needed before change is implemented on these old world killing machines of religion and government?

Sometimes I get this eerie feeling the world is a Jonestown. We stick around because we are promised free kool-aid.

And yet here we are almost 8 billion with many living into their 80s now. Go back to 1880 and that average age was 40 years old. There are reasons this slow and weak animal called humans is the apex predator on the planet and it isn't because we are fluffy and nice.

You suggest religion and Goverment are the evils of man, so what do you want to preplace them with? If you look at it all scientifically, things that last for 1000s of years only means they work, otherwise they would be replaced. That is how it all works as in a stronger system will replace a weaker one or one that is inferior.

So the fact that religion and Goverment been here for 1000s of years means there is no better thing to replace them no matter how bad you think they are.

No misinformation in the Pfizer documents. We can call these documents information.



a reply to: Xtrozero

@Zombie

What do you think of this new data from Pfizer?

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

So nothing to add then? Basically a non-comment since your google fake checker doesn't have it's response finished yet?

You went over what? The documents were just released. Now you're just making things up.

We been talking about the vaccines for a long time now, and you all are set in your ways no matter what I say, so what point is there for me to engage at all as it will not shift a single opinion or view that a number of you have written in stone.

BTW look up where the 12% efficacy comes from...

A long time? Is that long enough to determine long term safety effects?

Also, you say I'm set in my ways, but in the same sentence say there's no point because it's been a long time. Who is the one set in there ways?

In case you didn't know, new information and studies come out every single day, and most of them refute the big pharma narrative, at least the ones that aren't funded by big pharma.

You've been calling the vax a depopulation bomb or a control mechanism since 2020. It contains graphene, it contains carbon nano particles, it makes you magnetic, it's killing airline pilots, you can shed it, you've brought into just about every doom porn conspiracy imaginable, and you've been debunked 100% of the time. Even SecureTeam10 has a better record than that.

The links in my signature go to the British health data with is independent of the CDC, FDI and both Trump and Biden, they show that the vax is safe and effective, and that everything that you're saying is wrong. If you follow the links and click around you'll see that the vax efficacy averages out at around 85 percent two weeks after the second shot.

Data from Israel also debunks the risk of heart attacks, 1 in 500,000 YOUNG MEN (not women, or older men) is at risk.

Israeli data also debunks all depopulation myths. Israel closely follows it birth rates due to population crisis. If there were even a slight risk Jerusalem would have stopped using it.

a reply to: Sander1976

I think that I'm not touching that download.

If the OP wants to be taken seriously then they're going to need to copy and paste it online.

No way I'm downloading anything that some random person on a conspiracy forum posted on random hosting service. I like my computer not to have rootkit on it.

Based on the OP's description it's either fake or heavily cherry picked as it contradicts all known scientific data. It's probably a rehashing of that fake report that claimed that the vax caused miscarriages, which took the period that most miscarriages occur and attempted to extrapolate that out to all pregnancies.

Israeli birth data also debunks the vax causing infertility or miscarriage, if there had been a drop in Israel's birth rate it would be a national emergency. The fact that this isn't front page news is evidence that it isn't happening.

The average efficacy of the vax has been established as approximately 85 percent two weeks after the second shot for all vaxes except the Chinese one (Which ironically uses a killed version of the virus). The efficacy of the Chinese vax is debated, some sources say that it's as low as 50 percent.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: DaRAGE

The way I see it, Pfizer has been operating a continuing criminal enterprise for decades at least.

They pleaded guilty to criminal medical fraud back in 2004 and again in 2009, and are still doing the same thing because only fines were leveled in those cases, no jail time for the humans in charge.

Pfizer is not alone in the pharmaceutical world in operating a continuing criminal enterprise. The Sackler Family and Purdue Pharmaceutical with Oxy Contin have done the same thing.

Given the size of the organization and the number of products that they have in the market at any one time, the shocking thing is that there are so few suits against them. If they were crooked then there would be many many more.

It's like finding two pedophiles in a school district, when the district has 40,000 people on the books. The amazing thing would be that there are so few sex offenders. Not that there are two.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

So nothing to add then? Basically a non-comment since your google fake checker doesn't have it's response finished yet?

You went over what? The documents were just released. Now you're just making things up.

We been talking about the vaccines for a long time now, and you all are set in your ways no matter what I say, so what point is there for me to engage at all as it will not shift a single opinion or view that a number of you have written in stone.

BTW look up where the 12% efficacy comes from...

A long time? Is that long enough to determine long term safety effects?

Also, you say I'm set in my ways, but in the same sentence say there's no point because it's been a long time. Who is the one set in there ways?

In case you didn't know, new information and studies come out every single day, and most of them refute the big pharma narrative, at least the ones that aren't funded by big pharma.

You've been calling the vax a depopulation bomb or a control mechanism since 2020. It contains graphene, it contains carbon nano particles, it makes you magnetic, it's killing airline pilots, you can shed it, you've brought into just about every doom porn conspiracy imaginable, and you've been debunked 100% of the time. Even SecureTeam10 has a better record than that.

The links in my signature go to the British health data with is independent of the CDC, FDI and both Trump and Biden, they show that the vax is safe and effective, and that everything that you're saying is wrong. If you follow the links and click around you'll see that the vax efficacy averages out at around 85 percent two weeks after the second shot.

Data from Israel also debunks the risk of heart attacks, 1 in 500,000 YOUNG MEN (not women, or older men) is at risk.

Israeli data also debunks all depopulation myths. Israel closely follows it birth rates due to population crisis. If there were even a slight risk Jerusalem would have stopped using it.

You say the same thing over and over again. Your old a$$ big pharma / gov funded studies are obsolete and debunked.

It's over. You're finished.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

The efficacy of the Chinese vax is debated, some sources say that it's as low as 50 percent.

But didn't fauci say that was enough of an efficacy to use on the world?

Can you tell us after 14 weeks what the efficacy of the different vaccines?

originally posted by: Sander1976
No misinformation in the Pfizer documents. We can call these documents information.

As I said I like to follow others who are a hell of a lot more expert to talk on it all and a hell of a lot smarter than any us here. I'm not digging through a ton of crap looking for a nugget...lol

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Sander1976
No misinformation in the Pfizer documents. We can call these documents information.

As I said I like to follow others who are a hell of a lot more expert to talk on it all and a hell of a lot smarter than any us here. I'm not digging through a ton of crap looking for a nugget...lol

That's called the appeal to authority fallacy. It's funny, when you are given someone like this, then you question their credentials, but if you are given the evidence you say you need someone who is smarter to interpret it.

This is exactly how someone acts when they are in the middle of denial.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

You've been calling the vax a depopulation bomb or a control mechanism since 2020. It contains graphene, it contains carbon nano particles, it makes you magnetic, it's killing airline pilots, you can shed it, you've brought into just about every doom porn conspiracy imaginable, and you've been debunked 100% of the time. Even SecureTeam10 has a better record than that.

The links in my signature go to the British health data with is independent of the CDC, FDI and both Trump and Biden, they show that the vax is safe and effective, and that everything that you're saying is wrong. If you follow the links and click around you'll see that the vax efficacy averages out at around 85 percent two weeks after the second shot.

Data from Israel also debunks the risk of heart attacks, 1 in 500,000 YOUNG MEN (not women, or older men) is at risk.

Israeli data also debunks all depopulation myths. Israel closely follows it birth rates due to population crisis. If there were even a slight risk Jerusalem would have stopped using it.

As example OP's title "12% efficacy!" Then they paint a picture that big pharma been lying to us all from day one with a 12% efficacy from the very beginning without a single mention of this below.

New York state officials found the effectiveness of Pfizer’s vaccine against Covid infection plummeted from 68% to 12% for children aged 5 to 11 during the omicron surge.
The dramatic drop in vaccine effectiveness was likely due to the lower dosage the youngsters received, according to study team members.

We know that the vaccine has a huge drop in efficacy to omicron as it is basically like a different virus compared to Delta. We also know kids get a much smaller dose too... Yes this is real data, truly factual in it all, but it is the message that people here on ATS use it that makes what they do very wrong.

Reread the title of the OP and say I'm wrong...lol

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

That's called the appeal to authority fallacy. It's funny, when you are given someone like this, then you question their credentials, but if you are given the evidence you say you need someone who is smarter to interpret it.

This is exactly how someone acts when they are in the middle of denial.

We no... You are applying that fallacy wrong, go reread it again...lol

The Pfizer docs are legit, but fair enough

a reply to: AaarghZombies

a reply to: DaRAGE

I find it amusing how the MSM is still defending Pfizer.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

That's called the appeal to authority fallacy. It's funny, when you are given someone like this, then you question their credentials, but if you are given the evidence you say you need someone who is smarter to interpret it.

This is exactly how someone acts when they are in the middle of denial.

We no... You are applying that fallacy wrong, go reread it again...lol

I'm not, you are trying to suggest that only a doctor can interpret the data when presented with the evidence. It's your avoidance tactic when presented with the truth.