Is it time to send in NATO troops?

a reply to: Bicent
NATO’s Intervention in Libya: A Humanitarian Success?

NATO used the Humanitarian excuse and used the conflict in Libya to assist the rebels to overthrow the gaddafi 's regime/government.

A Defensive alliance does not do offensive tactics. Libya currently is still a failed state with three factions fighting for power currently.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

NATO countries were acting on behalf of the U.N. (the world), your beef is with them.

That is an excuse. You and some others still prefer to suggest and claim that NATO is a defensive alliance when their actions had proven that they arent.

originally posted by: Annee
[originally posted by: ]projectvxn]

Not having a nuclear war.


That doesn't bother me. If its gonna happen, its gonna happen.

At some point -- threats need to be stopped.

If there's any world left -- we'll rebuild -- as has been done before.

I feel we're (world) is at a turning point. Go Forward!

^^^ "Mean Tweets" = Bad
^^^ Nuclear war = OK

Sure. Got it; totally makes sense.

And I mean...this post condoning thermonuclear war gets a number of stars.

W the actual F is going ON here!?!

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Bicent
NATO’s Intervention in Libya: A Humanitarian Success?

NATO used the Humanitarian excuse and used the conflict in Libya to assist the rebels to overthrow the gaddafi 's regime/government.

A Defensive alliance does not do offensive tactics. Libya currently is still a failed state with three factions fighting for power currently.

NATO countries were acting on behalf of the U.N., but the topic is russia's invasion of Ukraine to steal land which NATO isn't involved in, and isn't going to be involved in.

a reply to: vNex92

Wow I tell ya, you totally missed the point, and it seems to be more important to you to sound like you’re right than learning anything.

Not surprised considering the matter of a fact statements being made by this account all throughout this thread, even up to but not limited to utter absolutions.

Gotta admire the ignorance of the young, these days.

Oh and NATO still is a defensive pact. 🥱

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

NATO countries were acting on behalf of the U.N. (the world), your beef is with them.

That is an excuse. You and some others still prefer to suggest and claim that NATO is a defensive alliance when their actions had proven that they arent.

NATO is not a country.

NATO is a defensive alliance.

Ukraine is not a member of NATO.

NATO did not invade Ukraine.

russia invaded Ukraine, and lavrov said that russia intends to occupy as much Ukrainian territory as possible, and annex all of the Ukrainian territory russia is able to occupy.

Just like russia invaded and annexed Crimea.

(In the mind of russians anyway, the rest of the world knows Crimea is still Ukrainian territory)

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

NATO is a defensive alliance.

You keep reusing the same statements from earlier posts. I already mentioned about NATO not been an defensive alliance.

I am not going to repeat myself.

Just like russia invaded and annexed Crimea.
Still upset over Crimea? Crimea's had a vote and 90% of those East Slavs who live wanted to be part independent there are many MSM outlets who hated the vote.

the rest of the world knows Crimea is still Ukrainian territory
Again which fictional world is that? the one where the US currently militarily occupies with their 800 bases?

The same world that recognized Kosovo to?

originally posted by: Bicent
a reply to: vNex92

Wow I tell ya, you totally missed the point, and it seems to be more important to you to sound like you’re right than learning anything.

Not surprised considering the matter of a fact statements being made by this account all throughout this thread, even up to but not limited to utter absolutions.

Gotta admire the ignorance of the young, these days.

Oh and NATO still is a defensive pact. 🥱

From your side which is the "I support the Current Thing, Like in Ukraine" i had been seeing that you keep referring NATO is a defensive pact when in reality it is not.

You keep using the UN argument which i will add this is the same UN that was allowed to be used by the US to start their war on Iraq based on Lies.

Gotta admire the ignorance of the young

Like how you are supporting the current thing?

a reply to: vNex92


Think you might want to watch this.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

NATO is a defensive alliance.

You keep reusing the same statements from earlier posts. I already mentioned about NATO not been an defensive alliance.

I am not going to repeat myself.

Just like russia invaded and annexed Crimea.
Still upset over Crimea? Crimea's had a vote and 90% of those East Slavs who live wanted to be part independent there are many MSM outlets who hated the vote.

the rest of the world knows Crimea is still Ukrainian territory
Again which fictional world is that? the one where the US currently militarily occupies with their 800 bases?

The same world that recognized Kosovo to?

NATO is a defensive alliance against foreign invasion, Ukraine is not a member of NATO, and NATO is not involved in russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Only Ukraine can hold elections on Ukrainian soil, not russia.

The real world where the U.N. and international courts decide such issues, and who have clearly stated that Crimea and dombas are Ukrainian soil.

Only deranged russians and a few of their supporters believe that Crimea is suddenly russian soil because russia said so.

What do American 'bases' have to do with russia invading Ukraine to steal land?

We have no 'bases' in Ukraine.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

It is not Russia that had been making issues or troubles in Ukraine for a long time nor before them.

but we are discussing russia's current invasion of Ukraine to steal land.

Russia isn't stealing land. They are defending the Eastern slavs who had lived there for a generation. The ones that are attacking them is Ukraine and Kiev.

I am not going to talk to you until you do more research on this and as for your nonsense on this issue.


Russia and Ukrainians are in one people they wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for the Rus People.


I do suggest that you do research on Rus people.

It IS russia that invaded a non threatening neighbor to steal land again.


I've done a lot of research on russian culture over the years, it's always fascinated me, and I had hoped to visit after retiring, but the topic at hand is russia's invasion of Ukraine to steal land, and russian culture has nothing to do with it (except to brainwashed russians).

You however are stymying every attempt at discussion by making the same statement repeatedly.

originally posted by: Dalamax

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

It is not Russia that had been making issues or troubles in Ukraine for a long time nor before them.

but we are discussing russia's current invasion of Ukraine to steal land.

Russia isn't stealing land. They are defending the Eastern slavs who had lived there for a generation. The ones that are attacking them is Ukraine and Kiev.

I am not going to talk to you until you do more research on this and as for your nonsense on this issue.


Russia and Ukrainians are in one people they wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for the Rus People.


I do suggest that you do research on Rus people.

It IS russia that invaded a non threatening neighbor to steal land again.


I've done a lot of research on russian culture over the years, it's always fascinated me, and I had hoped to visit after retiring, but the topic at hand is russia's invasion of Ukraine to steal land, and russian culture has nothing to do with it (except to brainwashed russians).

You however are stymying every attempt at discussion by making the same statement repeatedly.

I am responding to the russian propaganda as often as it's posted, any beef about post volume is entirely with them.

Because russia invaded Ukraine to steal land, while making repeated nuke threats, 'justifying' their actions with absurd and dehumanizing propaganda, and world wars tend to get started like that.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

>Russia invaded Ukraine to steal land" That is such a loaded philosophical statement. Steal from who? if you think anyone owns land or houses for that matter, stop paying the rates for a while. You cannot pack up land and take it someplace else so it can't be stolen.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

>Russia invaded Ukraine to steal land" That is such a loaded philosophical statement. Steal from who? if you think anyone owns land or houses for that matter, stop paying the rates for a while. You cannot pack up land and take it someplace else so it can't be stolen.

How about sea ports for shipping/trade.

Making Ukraine landlocked.

a reply to: Annee

Its all about regime change , the West doesn't like it when it is there interests are threatened, like the very rich who profit from the current status quo. This is a rich man's conflict. You can pick whatever side you want. but after it is over no one will profit except the rich.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Annee

Its all about regime change , the West doesn't like it when it is there interests are threatened, like the very rich who profit from the current status quo. This is a rich man's conflict. You can pick whatever side you want. but after it is over no one will profit except the rich.

I'm not buying that.

This is Putin's ego trip.

By making yourself appear to be a bot?

You should perhaps reread the op and reassess the content.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

>Russia invaded Ukraine to steal land" That is such a loaded philosophical statement. Steal from who? if you think anyone owns land or houses for that matter, stop paying the rates for a while. You cannot pack up land and take it someplace else so it can't be stolen.

Of course it is, why do you think I use it?

Steal ownership.and occupation of land from Ukraine, who owns the land.

originally posted by: Dalamax
By making yourself appear to be a bot?

You should perhaps reread the op and reassess the content.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Are you claiming that 'bots' are repeatedly posting russian propaganda in threads about the russian invasion of Ukraine that they themselves create?

They aren't 'bots'.


I read the content, and the title, both are absurd, NATO is not involved in russia's invasion of Ukraine, and has no interest in getting involved.

originally posted by: Dalamax

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

It is not Russia that had been making issues or troubles in Ukraine for a long time nor before them.

but we are discussing russia's current invasion of Ukraine to steal land.

Russia isn't stealing land. They are defending the Eastern slavs who had lived there for a generation. The ones that are attacking them is Ukraine and Kiev.

I am not going to talk to you until you do more research on this and as for your nonsense on this issue.


Russia and Ukrainians are in one people they wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for the Rus People.


I do suggest that you do research on Rus people.

It IS russia that invaded a non threatening neighbor to steal land again.


I've done a lot of research on russian culture over the years, it's always fascinated me, and I had hoped to visit after retiring, but the topic at hand is russia's invasion of Ukraine to steal land, and russian culture has nothing to do with it (except to brainwashed russians).

You however are stymying every attempt at discussion by making the same statement repeatedly.

Thats because NATO has zero offensive capability. If for example, Turkey were to attack Syria when they set up their occupation zone. Despite the fact, the US told them not to i might add. They did this by setting up outposts in Syria and taking advantage of US military withdrawal from Syria. No NATO country is obligated to assist them in this fight and under the NATO charter, they cant even request it. They have already been attacked by Russians in this area and yet NATO isn't involved strange huh? Don't you think Turkey would have asked for help if they could have?