Ex-NATO analyst paints a completely different picture of war in Ukraine.

originally posted by: ROUPracticaldiplomacy
Reply to LABTECH767

" NATO (Whom came to OUR aid when Argentina invaded the bloody Falklands not that we needed anyone and the US did provide some belated moral support but at first did not want to get involved) is regarded as an attack upon all member states it does not work the other way around, a MEMBER nation of NATO may act independently and that is what is happening here. "

Um no this is not true. No NATO member came to our aid because Article 6 of the NATO charter limits NATO involvement to North of the tropic of Cancer and the Falklands are a long bloody way south of that. In fact France continued to try and sell Argentina Exocet anti ship missles while in the US Reagan famously declared at the time that he could not understand why two allies were arguing over "that little ice-cold bunch of land down there". Eventually, the US did help with satelite intel and a shipment of Sidewinders and fuel, but not as part of NATO.

That was meant to read WHOM DID NOT COME TO OUR AID in the form of WHOM? came to our aid, sorry I see my gramma was pretty bad there as always, NATO sat on there bloody hands and did NOTHING to help us, in fact France if I remember was still supplying Arm's to Argentina (Gualtieri's regime) at the time (and the blighters are nicking our fish but then just about everyone else is as well).

And yes the US did EVENTUALLY help but at first they dragged there feet as they were on very good term's with the junta in charge of Argentina and no we are NOT beholden to them we have done them endless favours.

Sorry deleted most of that I got into a prattling rant about something else.

Thanks' for correcting my post, you get what I meant.

originally posted by: Sander1976
But in the end we are with billions of people, we do have a say if we just unite.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

True, but hopelessly romantic.

The Deep State is calling the shots in Ukraine. The NATO gang has provoked this situation for all the obvious reasons.

The military industrial complex rules.

originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: Sander1976
But in the end we are with billions of people, we do have a say if we just unite.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

True, but hopelessly romantic.

The Deep State is calling the shots in Ukraine. The NATO gang has provoked this situation for all the obvious reasons.

The military industrial complex rules.

The Nazis were funded by 🏈 usa and 💶 euro money 💵💰 in the 30s.

What is new? The revelation?

Nazis designed the CIA!

Because you're a human being like they are, and neither you nor they pulled the trigger or pushed the button.

How do you know they didn't care? Did you interview them one by one?

Don't be such an intolerant, inhumane ass.

They're innocent people, just like the people in that plane, just like you and me.
They didn't ask for a war anymore then we did, in other words not at all.

Only the absolute psychopathic and total morons want war.
And I doubt you fit into any of those categories, nor does the average person in Donbas region or anywhere in the world.

originally posted by: TheGreazel
a reply to: Sander1976

After the coup in 2014, the Russian-speaking part of the population was attacked by Ukrainian nationalists.

Well Dutch natives got attacked above the Donbass , resulting in every one on that plane died.

BUK schrapnel with russian ID numbers was found inside the victims.

Why should i care about people in donbass when they did not gave a damm about dutch citizens left to rot in a field ?

originally posted by: LastFirst

originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: Sander1976
But in the end we are with billions of people, we do have a say if we just unite.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

True, but hopelessly romantic.

The Deep State is calling the shots in Ukraine. The NATO gang has provoked this situation for all the obvious reasons.

The military industrial complex rules.

The Nazis were funded by 🏈 usa and 💶 euro money 💵💰 in the 30s.

What is new? The revelation?

Nazis designed the CIA!

Funny.

The same country that led the destruction of the nazis.

Is russia going to 'denazify' the U.S. now?

originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: Sander1976
But in the end we are with billions of people, we do have a say if we just unite.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

True, but hopelessly romantic.

The Deep State is calling the shots in Ukraine. The NATO gang has provoked this situation for all the obvious reasons.

The military industrial complex rules.

Did the deep state mind control putin into invading Ukraine to steal land again?

Sounds pretty fake to me.

a reply to: LastFirst

They were also defeated by them.

a reply to: Salander

Nothing to do with Putin, then?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

It does, since he seems to be a target in this propaganda campaign with "Western Values".

Third, in the West, there is a sense that you can do whatever you want if it is in the name of western values. This is why the Russian offensive in Ukraine is passionately sanctioned, while FUKUS (France, UK, US) wars get strong political support, even if they are notoriously based on lies. “Do what I say, not what I do!” One could ask what makes the conflict in Ukraine worse than other wars. In fact, each new sanction we apply to Russia highlights the sanctions we haven’t applied earlier to the US, the UK or France.

The purpose of this incredible polarization is to prevent any dialogue or negotiation with Russia. We are back to what happened in 1914, just before the start of WWI…

Our Interview with Jacques Baud

God shave the Kaiser!

a reply to: Insurrectile

It will be funny if that acronym catches on. FUKUS