The economic blitzkrieg against Russia has failed

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: YouSir
This has only served to establish a bad precedent...and the majority of foreign nations are already establishing their own currency exchange mechanisms for trade...without using the Dollar and the Euro as exchange currencies...

Like who? Certainly not the EU or North America. Most of OPEC is still pricing oil in dollars.

Ummm...China...India...Brazil...Saudi Arabia...etc...the list keeps growing...

Soon...the dollar's reserve status will only be good in western countries...






YouSir

originally posted by: YouSir
Ummm...China...India...Brazil...Saudi Arabia...etc...the list keeps growing...

So 'most' countries are now four?

China is not setting up their own 'currency exchange mechanism' (whatever that means), they still have the yuan valued against the dollar and we pay for our imports in the same, Saudi Arabia still gets paid in dollars and same for Brazil/India.

Maybe try not making things up.

a reply to: RussianTroll

The goal of the sanction is to put pain on the everyday folks. In that goal, regardless of what Russia does with its contracted economy, it is and will continue to be successful. This has also exacerbated, once again, Russian brain drain as folks with any wherewithal leave the nation to find a future in a less restrictive regime that more enables them to interact with their global peers.

Yes, im certain Russia can craft a stable economy, at least to a large degree.

a reply to: resoe26

How can you support the puppet country of Ukraine?

I support the Ukrainian people.
I don't support the invasion of a country for no other reason than the dreams of glory of a paranoid de facto dictator and his desire to reclaim 'former glories'.

....their PM was placed in power, ....

By who?

...they have the neo-nazi satanic "AZOV" battalion that routinely hides behind civilians while killing them and claiming it was "Russia's" fault just to spread disinfo.

As has been stated numerous times; there are Neo-Nazi's fighting on both sides.
Many Russian Neo-Nazi's relocated to Donbas and were actively involved in attacking Ukraine government installations etc, terrorising and intimidating Ukrainian people in Donbas.
These militias were funded by Moscow and are now fighting alongside regular Russian armed forces in Ukraine.

Both sides are spreading 'disinfo' and biased propaganda, anyone who thinks any other must be incredibly naive.

How that excuses the invasion of a non-threatening nation and the ongoing death and destruction is beyond me.

Supporting Ukraine is basically supporting everything wrong with western society.

How so?
How does any of that justify invading Ukraine?
And Russian society is any better?

a reply to: Salander

Nuland's Goons in Ukraine have been shelling parts of the Donbass for 8 years or more.

Both sides have been engaging in armed conflict in Donbas.
Moscow backed Russian militia's have been attacking and bombing Ukraine government installations and interests for years.
They have been intimidating local Ukrainians and kidnapping and ransoming people.
In addition there are numerous reports of them attacking non-Orthodox Christians and Jews.

If understanding the comparisons between Russian missiles in Cuba and NATO arms in Ukraine is too hard for you, I may be wasting my time.

Russia had built the bases and had placed 162 nuclear weapons in Cuba during the crisis in 1962.

Ukraine is not a member of NATO - its membership application had been turned down and there was no realistic chance of it being admitted prior to the Russian invasion - and as such there were/are no nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
None whatsoever.
In fact I don't think there was any NATO weaponry at all in Ukraine prior to the invasion.

Did Russia feel threatened by missiles in Poland?
Possibly.
Could Russia feel threatened by NATO expanding into its former sphere of influence?
Probably.

But perhaps Russia would have been better off considering why all those former Soviet regions and Warsaw Pact countries actively sought out membership and closer ties with NATO/EU rather than remaining close to Russia?

And none of that can even remotely support the invasion of a non-threatening country and all the devastation that has gone with it.

If understanding the huge propaganda effort presented by MSM in the US regarding the heroism of the two imposters Biden and Zelensky is too hard for you, I know I'm wasting my time.

Biden is unfit for Office....but he hasn't caused this.

Seems to me that some people choose to support Putin simply because they feel it is being anti-Biden.

Carry on good subject. Freeborn perhaps, but certainly not Freethinking.

You know # all about me, who I am and what I think.
But I can assure you that my mind is free enough to think without being dictated to by locked in and biased political and ideological dogma.

a reply to: Freeborn

I actually believe Putin thought he could cross the border into Ukraine like he did in 2014, and the world would do nothing, like in 2014.

The reaction has come as a huge shock to Putin, and he don't know how to respond.

a reply to: alldaylong

I agree.
I think he thought that NATO/The West's response would be the usual huffing and puffing and empty political rhetoric.

I think he also thought it was going to be a straight forward victory.

Putin appears to be a very arrogant man consumed with his delusions of glory and greatness.
His pride won't allow him to back away now.

The invasion is achieving absolutely nothing now other than more death, destruction and misery.
Putin is the one man who could put a stop to it all an instant; call an immediate ceasefire and begin talks with no preconditions.
But he won't.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Freeborn

I actually believe Putin thought he could cross the border into Ukraine like he did in 2014, and the world would do nothing, like in 2014.

The reaction has come as a huge shock to Putin, and he don't know how to respond.

When you arrest high-up members of your intelligence agency, while you are in an invasion. This shows Putin was likely relying on completely bogus prognostication and/or information.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RussianTroll

We are kind of stuck on a 700 odd mile long island, so there is that.

Passports help matters there.

Freedom is never free RussianTroll.

Here in the UK all the same, we are about as free as the illusion allows.

Same with plenty of other nations around the globe.

Don't know if you can claim the same through aka 15 year gaol sentences, or at least the threat of, for people who dispute Putin's ""special military operation"" or calling it what it really is aka invasion under false pretence.

There is no absolute personal freedom. Personal freedom ends where it begins to affect the freedom of other citizens. Absolute freedom is anarchy and chaos, which inevitably end in dictatorship and totalitarianism. Real freedom is the freedom of choice of a person, taking into account his morality and morality. There is morality and morality - there is freedom, if they are not - there is no freedom either, but there is permissiveness, which sooner and later will hit the most "free" person.

a reply to: andy06shake
With modern technology and weapons, this puddle, the English Channel, is not an obstacle to anything. Are you stuck in the Middle Ages))))

originally posted by: PassiveSeeker
Really curious to see Russias economy after the EU and US, Russias biggest customers, phases out all Russian fuel sources.

I would like to look at the European economy if Russia itself imposes retaliatory sanctions and refuses to immediately supply energy to Europe. We have China and Southeast Asia.
You are a prisoner of your dreams, Russia can respond very sharply and cruelly.

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: RussianTroll
By the way, you are always the first to appear under my topics. It seems that you do not sleep and follow my posts around the clock))))

Almost like the CIA has a staff of 8 rotating agents trying to derail every thread you post. LOL

The US Gooberment has money to burn. Taxpayer money. Anything to keep their narrative alive and spinning. Anything to keep the truth under the covers.

RT: No one can trust the MSM anymore. And the MSM's support for the Democrat's Propaganda Machine is apparent to anyone who isn't a brainwashed lost cause. [SNIPPED]

They're scared of you!! Keep posting!!

Always considered myself an ordinary ATS-er. I didn't think I was such an important person.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Correction if Russia had fully functional "modern technology and weapons" you might be able to play at the table.

Thing is RussianTroll you would need to make it all the way through Europe first to have a pop at crossing the English channel.

And you are currently getting your arse handed to by the Ukraine mate in some places just 70 miles from home.

Then there is the fact that the UK, and her allies(its nice to have those ) would utilise superior and more sophisticated modern technologies and weapons to stop you accomplishing any sort of crossing.

Pretty much if air and missile barrage don't sink you battleships, which is rather easily achieved these days, our subs would blow you out the water.

See its not the middle ages that's Russia's problem but present day that's presenting all sorts of dilemma.

And you only have one man to blame, pretty clear who that is ta boot.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Well we are after all a social animal that requires rules to play and function, else its simply survival of the fittest.

Like i suggest freedom is illusory RussianTroll as long as you wish to interact with other human beings you must be willing to accept compromise and follow some sort of etiquette.

Else chaos prevails.

Everything has its price even freedom.

a reply to: andy06shake

You just don't know Russian technology, especially military technology. Or rather, you know, but you consider them "Putin's cartoons", as Daggers, Zircons, Vanguards and Poseidons once considered. In fact, Russia can destroy entire continents with its technologies, not to mention a small island, and without the use of nuclear weapons)))

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RussianTroll

Well we are after all a social animal that requires rules to play and function, else its simply survival of the fittest.

Like i suggest freedom is illusory RussianTroll as long as you wish to interact with other human beings you must be willing to accept compromise and follow some sort of etiquette.

Else chaos prevails.

Everything has its price even freedom.

Etiquette is a very subjective thing. On some islands of Polynesia, it is still considered good etiquette to eat the flesh of an enemy of a tribal leader.
But a compromise - I'm always FOR! Only a real compromise, without deceit, taking into account the interests of all parties.

a reply to: RussianTroll

I know your tanks and APC go pop when introduced to Javelins or the NLAW.

I ken the fact that you cannot produce the best of your toys or aircraft in any sorts of significant numbers.

Do your planes or choppers even had a defence against our Starstreak missiles?

And that's no even with our nukes on the table, coz its simply childish and a no win scenario for planet Earth.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: RussianTroll

Is Russia in a worse state economically than before February 24th ?

Everyone knows the answer is yes.

Is the United States in a worse state economically than before February 24th?

Welcome to the bizarre world of virtue signaling where America's president bends his own people over a barrel to punish a foreign country that didn't attack America. If Russia's losing thanks to these sanctions, it would seem the US is losing as well.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Its nice to be nice RussianTroll.

You treat people how you find them and with the same respect you wish to receive.

Thats basic etiquette and part and parcel where the human condition is concerned directly connected with our ability to empathise with others.

The rest is chicken soup really.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RussianTroll

I know your tanks and APC go pop when introduced to Javelins or the NLAW.

I ken the fact that you cannot produce the best of your toys or aircraft in any sorts of significant numbers.

Do your planes or choppers even had a defence against our Starstreak missiles?

And that's no even with our nukes on the table, coz its simply childish and a no win scenario for planet Earth.

Your knowledge is very subjective, especially about tanks. Russian tanks have always been among the best in the world. The T-90 and T-14 Armata, accompanied by armored vehicles supporting the Terminator tanks, have not yet entered the battle. (The tactic has been successfully tested in Syria). It's a completely different tactic. I will not say anything about the English tanks, I will not upset you)))
But these are all field combat weapons, no one is going to force armadas of tanks across the English Channel. These are 20th century performances. We are talking about various technological types of weapons that can remotely destroy entire continents. Again, these are not nuclear weapons.
For example, imagine that a 500-meter tsunami hits the coast of a small island. What will happen to the small island?
This is not a theory, such weapons are already on alert in Russia. This is Poseidon.
Understand, I'm not frightening, I just hope for the adequacy in taking into account mutual interests, no one is going to occupy anyone. Now is the 21st century.