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originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: JAGStorm
Half the problem is market speculation.
originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
Considering the price of oil exploded right around the exact time the conflict in Ukraine started, it seems pretty obvious what the primary cause is. This is a global thing, fuel prices in Australia have increase more since the Ukraine conflict started than they did throughout the entire pandemic, which is quite remarkable.
Some of the increase is obviously due to inflation, but it's not a major factor because inflation works slowly, and the price of oil has increase drastically over a small period of time. When most of the world decides oil is evil, then the only people left supplying large quantities of oil will be nations like China and Russia.
China supplies pretty much everything else to the world as well. If we did get into a WWIII there's a 90% chance China will side with Russia. Together they have the power to cripple the world economy and it seems they are already doing that in response to our attempts to cripple their economies, and who can blame them.
originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: JAGStorm
It's not a single cause
Drilling permits
Transportation costs
Supply at market
Taxes
Political policies
Wars
All those things and some others effect the people assigned to buy and sell oil. Those speculators set the prices and Biden made them nervous.
originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: JAGStorm
Half the problem is market speculation.
Oh right, so what was the market speculation doing during the Trump admin for four years when prices were down?
I bet you don’t have a realistic answer.
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: JAGStorm
Gas prices here started to rise right after lockdown ended and the factories reopened, the culprit was that we didn't have enough storage.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: Alien Abduct
Also, gas is a very small part of the profit for a gas station.
It's often a loss leader. Does this Circle K have a large convenience section? That's the actual money maker.
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: Alien Abduct
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: Alien Abduct
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: JAGStorm
There was this Circle K near where I live, had been there for at least 30 years. The owners and help were great. Then, a Valero was built almost next to the Circle K, nice big gas station. Word quickly got around that it was owned by a communist and almost no one gave them their business. Eventually Valero folded and sold to Circle K for pennies on the dollar. I love our new Circle K, thanks Valero!
Except for the fact the Circle K was probably already selling Valero gas...
Except for the fact that that Circle K was there even before Valero was founded.
The point is the off brand stations are selling wholesale gas from large refiners...
Are any refineries owned by small businesses? LoL
Also, gas is a very small part of the profit for a gas station.
I'm going to try it one more time... please read carefully and let each point marinate a bit.
The original post was about how the locals wanted to support the Circle K instead of the big Valero.
Locals support Circle K because they don't want commie Valero gas.
I point out that Circle is likely buying from Valero already because of wholesale market.
You then retort that Circle K was there before Valero was even founded. Of course, this doesn't matter as Circle K could still be buying from Valero regardless if Valero is a younger company.
I then point out the larger issue isn't so much whether it is Valero but that the large refiners sell on wholesale market. Valero was just a good example of this.
You then state state small companies don't own refineries. I mean... no sh!t Sherlock. I know you are making a point here, but unsure of what exactly it is supposed to be.
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
First, I am surprised that here in the US it didn't hit 5 bucks in 2006. I thought for sure that it would as the prices then were verging on the high four dollar a gallon range. Maybe it was 07, can't remember. But I thought for sure it would hit 5 and at least stay there. But it didn't, it came back down again to the low 3s and stayed around there for about 15 years through Obama and Trump.
originally posted by: JAGStorm
I had to laugh when I read this.
There are a lot of people/groups I’d blame,…. Putin is pretty low on the list.
www.yahoo.com...
Most Americans blame Vladimir Putin, oil companies for high gas prices: POLL
I also have a good memory and know our prices were skyrocketing before anything happened over there, but nice try, nice try!
So let’s hear it, who do you blame?