Who Do You Blame For High Gas Prices

a reply to: Edumakated

Competition always lowers prices.

Yes and this place had ZERO competition forever.
Where I live we don’t have gas stations at every corner, you have to drive a good ways in either direction to get to one. One way is at least 15 minutes to hit a station, 20 to hit a good one.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: JAGStorm

There was this Circle K near where I live, had been there for at least 30 years. The owners and help were great. Then, a Valero was built almost next to the Circle K, nice big gas station. Word quickly got around that it was owned by a communist and almost no one gave them their business. Eventually Valero folded and sold to Circle K for pennies on the dollar. I love our new Circle K, thanks Valero!

Except for the fact the Circle K was probably already selling Valero gas...

Except for the fact that that Circle K was there even before Valero was founded.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: JAGStorm

There was this Circle K near where I live, had been there for at least 30 years. The owners and help were great. Then, a Valero was built almost next to the Circle K, nice big gas station. Word quickly got around that it was owned by a communist and almost no one gave them their business. Eventually Valero folded and sold to Circle K for pennies on the dollar. I love our new Circle K, thanks Valero!

Except for the fact the Circle K was probably already selling Valero gas...

Except for the fact that that Circle K was there even before Valero was founded.

The point is the off brand stations are selling wholesale gas from large refiners...

originally posted by: Terpene
What a redundant question, I always blame the ones on the diametrically opposed political side. It's really easy, saves you a lot of thinking, you should try it on occasion...

If there is anything biden can do to lower gas prices that he isn't currently doing then he certainly owns some of the blame. Of course there are other factors out of his control but to not do what he can within his power to alleviate the situation is a big failure on his part.

a reply to: JAGStorm

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biden
opec
opec plus
washingto dc
putin
oil compines
tree huggers

there are a few other special interest groups but i think you get the point

a reply to: JAGStorm
I blame the New World Order, who is trying to collapse everything so they can reset the world to their liking.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: JAGStorm

There was this Circle K near where I live, had been there for at least 30 years. The owners and help were great. Then, a Valero was built almost next to the Circle K, nice big gas station. Word quickly got around that it was owned by a communist and almost no one gave them their business. Eventually Valero folded and sold to Circle K for pennies on the dollar. I love our new Circle K, thanks Valero!

Except for the fact the Circle K was probably already selling Valero gas...

Except for the fact that that Circle K was there even before Valero was founded.

The point is the off brand stations are selling wholesale gas from large refiners...

Are any refineries owned by small businesses? LoL

Also, gas is a very small part of the profit for a gas station.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
Also, gas is a very small part of the profit for a gas station.

It's often a loss leader. Does this Circle K have a large convenience section? That's the actual money maker.

i blame irrational thinking public for high gas price...

the producers, transport, refiners, distribution, All seen an opportunity to gouge the buyers

In Europe blame is on Putin. US is a different case totally.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: JAGStorm

There was this Circle K near where I live, had been there for at least 30 years. The owners and help were great. Then, a Valero was built almost next to the Circle K, nice big gas station. Word quickly got around that it was owned by a communist and almost no one gave them their business. Eventually Valero folded and sold to Circle K for pennies on the dollar. I love our new Circle K, thanks Valero!

Except for the fact the Circle K was probably already selling Valero gas...

Except for the fact that that Circle K was there even before Valero was founded.

The point is the off brand stations are selling wholesale gas from large refiners...

Are any refineries owned by small businesses? LoL

Also, gas is a very small part of the profit for a gas station.

I'm going to try it one more time... please read carefully and let each point marinate a bit.

The original post was about how the locals wanted to support the Circle K instead of the big Valero.

Locals support Circle K because they don't want commie Valero gas.

I point out that Circle is likely buying from Valero already because of wholesale market.

You then retort that Circle K was there before Valero was even founded. Of course, this doesn't matter as Circle K could still be buying from Valero regardless if Valero is a younger company.

I then point out the larger issue isn't so much whether it is Valero but that the large refiners sell on wholesale market. Valero was just a good example of this.

You then state state small companies don't own refineries. I mean... no sh!t Sherlock. I know you are making a point here, but unsure of what exactly it is supposed to be.

When I worked in a gas station/repair shop in high school back in 1974, the price of gas was just over one dollar a gallon, and our pumps only charged a maximum of 99 cents a gallon, making me explain why ours were set at 54 cents, but got charged double. I was raking in $1.85 an hour in wages.
When I got retired in 2013, the price of gas was around 3 bucks a gallon, but my wage had gone to $26 an hour.
The price of gas does not follow the prices of other commodities, at all.
If it did keep up, we'd be paying 20 dollars a gallon by now.
I'd be bitchin' more about the prices of homes and transportation than the juice to power them.

Considering the price of oil exploded right around the exact time the conflict in Ukraine started, it seems pretty obvious what the primary cause is. This is a global thing, fuel prices in Australia have increase more since the Ukraine conflict started than they did throughout the entire pandemic, which is quite remarkable.

Some of the increase is obviously due to inflation, but it's not a major factor because inflation works slowly, and the price of oil has increase drastically over a small period of time. When most of the world decides oil is evil, then the only people left supplying large quantities of oil will be nations like China and Russia.

China supplies pretty much everything else to the world as well. If we did get into a WWIII there's a 90% chance China will side with Russia. Together they have the power to cripple the world economy and it seems they are already doing that in response to our attempts to cripple their economies, and who can blame them.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Considering the price of oil exploded right around the exact time the conflict in Ukraine started

Think back... not from what I remember.

It was already up up up, then the conflict over there started and it was blamed.
I knew they were going to do that.

a reply to: JAGStorm

81 million Americans are to blame.

They wanted this.

They desired it.

The evil leftists didn't lie when they said they were getting rid of fossil fuels.

And 81 million wanted it.

I'd blame them.

a reply to: Edumakated

Not only all your points, circle k has been passed around so much their like a ....., lots of big corporations have owned them since 1990.

Plus my understanding is they sell several different brands of gas at their stores, but their main brand is now shell and not only that they bought Valero in 2017 for 4.4 billion.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Gas prices started rising right when Biden took office. I don't have time to import it, but you can create your own at Gasbuddy.com Go back 2 years and look at the graph....

Yes, Ukraine increased it as well but the rise was well underway prior to then. I think Ukraine just pushed it up to where people actually felt it. Once you start seeing $4.00/gallon+ gas you start to notice.

a reply to: JAGStorm

In my opinion, corporate ethics is the Chinese introduction of Eastern, largely socialist, traditions and mentality into society.

a reply to: JAGStorm

It's a mix of multiple things causing it yet its really the political parties that seem to want to point the finger at 1 person or the other.

slate.com...


www.politifact.com...


www.forbes.com...

a reply to: Edumakated

I don't recall ever saying the price of fuel didn't start rising before the war in Ukraine. My point was there has been a spike since the war which is larger than the price increase throughout the entire pandemic. At least that is the situation in Australia.

Obviously fuel prices in the US started rising more rapidly once Biden got into office due to his anti-oil administration, but fuel prices only became a massive issue since the war in Ukraine started, or am I wrong? The situation in the US isn't somehow different from the rest of the world.