Russia’s military is incompetent.

originally posted by: JBurns

No they didnt. They just refuse to use US tactics like melting the face off a little toddler just to try and bomb a target.

You realize the US government/military and world governments and militaries were the real terrorists all along right?

I can safely assume you were never involved in any US military kill chain. Because if you were then you would know what you said above is total BS.

a reply to: dragonridr

Thanks, you are thoroughly indoctrinated. When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts.

Have you believed every story told by the media and the Pentagon?

I have not.

a reply to: radaghast5

I really don't believe what we're being told by either side. Russia is playing a game and pretending to have trouble while they've pretty much done whatever they wanted and are now mopping up. The question is what did they want to do? And why were they allowed to do it? And who's the bigger fraud, Trudeau, Biden or Zelensky?

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: dragonridr

Thanks, you are thoroughly indoctrinated. When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts.

Have you believed every story told by the media and the Pentagon?

I have not.

Id say your misinformation efforts are in full swing. However thank you for being honest i guess.

originally posted by: Dutchowl
a reply to: radaghast5

I really don't believe what we're being told by either side. Russia is playing a game and pretending to have trouble while they've pretty much done whatever they wanted and are now mopping up. The question is what did they want to do? And why were they allowed to do it? And who's the bigger fraud, Trudeau, Biden or Zelensky?

I do agree there is a lot of misinformation however i dont see any advantage to Russia making themselves seem incompetant. All this does is weaken their standing on the world stage so i dont think they are somehow faking a loss. More likely they were trying to take large gains with minimal forces and learned the resistance was stronger than they anticipated.

there original plan seemed to be to simply get forces into an area then set up supply lines for them. Such as the attack on the airport in Kyiv they sent in troops to hold it. They didnt have a plan to get supplies to them i think they thought it was going to be easy and it wasnt.

So i see this as a huge miscalculation by their military who honestly thought they could take an area then set up supply routes later.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Or was it more like a "request" for protection, like how the mob does for small business?

Have any evidence for that, or just another wild theory?

a reply to: dragonridr

Im not necessarily arguing these but just a few notes.

I do agree there is a lot of misinformation however i dont see any advantage to Russia making themselves seem incompetant. 

Sun Tzu tactic applies.

All this does is weaken their standing on the world stage so i dont think they are somehow faking a loss.

At this point, i dont think thats a factor.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Or was it more like a "request" for protection, like how the mob does for small business?

Have any evidence for that, or just another wild theory?

You do understand that was a question right? Notated with an actual question mark.

Basics son. Basics

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Or was it more like a "request" for protection, like how the mob does for small business?

Have any evidence for that, or just another wild theory?

You do understand that was a question right? Notated with an actual question mark.

Basics son. Basics

So no evidence then, just a wild theory you made up, got it.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Or was it more like a "request" for protection, like how the mob does for small business?

Have any evidence for that, or just another wild theory?

You do understand that was a question right? Notated with an actual question mark.

Basics son. Basics

So no evidence then, just a wild theory you made up, got it.

Ahem

I agree with the first part, but it's Ukraine's choice who to request investments from and none of anyone else's business.

Your words.

To which i asked the question.

Play your games with someone else. I dont wish to keep turning threads into swiss cheese.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Or was it more like a "request" for protection, like how the mob does for small business?

Have any evidence for that, or just another wild theory?

You do understand that was a question right? Notated with an actual question mark.

Basics son. Basics

So no evidence then, just a wild theory you made up, got it.

Ahem

I agree with the first part, but it's Ukraine's choice who to request investments from and none of anyone else's business.

Your words.

To which i asked the question.

Play your games with someone else. I dont wish to keep turning threads into swiss cheese.

So just your opinion about a conspiracy theory you made up then.

I don't have any problem with those when properly labeled as such.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Yawn

Weapons in the Ukrainian army in terms of Russian data:

tanks and other armored combat vehicles: 2416-2169=247

aircraft: 152-130=22

helicopters: 149-103=46

field artillery and mortars: 1509-931=578

multiple launch rocket systems: 535-243=292

unmanned aerial vehicles: ?-447=?

anti-aircraft missile systems [S-300, Buk-M1, Osa AKM]: ?-244=?

units of special military vehicles: ?-2076=?

Radar for various purposes: 300-(not less than 117)=(no more than 183)


These data were taken by me from today's briefing (April 13, 2022) - www.abovetopsecret.com...

In total, 130 aircraft and 103 helicopters, 244 anti-aircraft missile systems S-300, Buk-M1, Osa AKM, 447 unmanned aerial vehicles, 2,169 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 243 multiple launch rocket systems, 931 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,076 units of special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the operation.

and from Speech of the Head of the Main Operational Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Colonel General Sergei Rudskoy of 25 March 2022 - www.abovetopsecret.com...

At the time of the start of the special military operation, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, together with the National Guard, numbered 260 thousand 200 servicemen. During the month of hostilities, their losses amounted to about 30 thousand people, including more than 14 thousand - irretrievable and about 16 thousand - sanitary.

Of the 2,416 tanks and other armored fighting vehicles that were in combat on February 24, 1,587 units were destroyed; 636 units out of 1,509 field artillery guns and mortars; 163 out of 535 MLRS; 112 out of 152 aircraft, 75 out of 149 helicopters; 36 Bayraktar TB2 UAVs - 35;

180 out of 148 S-300 and Buk M1 air defence systems; 300 out of 117 radars for various purposes.

a reply to: dragonridr

To those who are thoroughly brainwashed, the truth comes across as disinformation, yeah....

Most of the eastern European militaries are pretty bad. That includes Polish, Czech, Belarussian, Russian, Ukrainian.

Assault on the Ilyich plant in Mariupol: 1350 marines of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered to Russian troops
The prisoners say that this is the only chance to survive.
Soldiers of the DPR OBTF continue to take Ukrainian military prisoners in Mariupol. On the evening of April 13, the number of those who surrendered increased to 1350 Marines of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

t.me...

The video is long. The Russian commander in the video talks about the fact that the marines of the 36th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to make a breakthrough from the encirclement at the Ilyich plant in Mariupol. Drone footage shows them running. But the Russian troops saw all their training, and when they started moving, they were bombed with artillery fire. Most of them died - up to 80%, according to the military in the video. The rest were taken prisoner. Technique also became a trophy. One wounded soldier says: We were taken, I did not see where. Then something came. I don't know what arrived. I was thrown up 1.5 meters. I realized that I am everything. The servicemen in the video say the same thing - there was no other way out but to surrender. Constantly under shelling sat in the basement. It was impossible to leave the basement. Together with the marines, there were Ukrainian border guards. In the video, one says that even before the war they were brought to a school in Mariupol. Then they sent me to another locality and told me to stay at the school. There were no orders to do anything. The border guards did not suspect that a war could begin. Then the shelling began, the war began. The announcer on the video explains that the Russians were shooting at the schools because they were being shot at from there. At the end, the commander in the video says that at the Ilyich plant, all the Ukrainian military have already surrendered and it remains only to take out the wounded, who are about two hundred people. Then the Russian troops will storm the Azovstal plant.

Russian military gets better with more combat experience.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: dragonridr
Have you believed every story told by the media and the Pentagon?

The only thing more delusional than believing everything your told by the msm, is claiming every single thing they report about this war is deliberate & calculated misinformation.

Just saying.

Seems a RU ship was just sank. Wonder how long until tactical nukes rain down on Kiev?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Excluding the fact that Biden ordered a hit using one of the many remote killing machines I PAY FOR to massacre a car load of kids and parents.

I guess killing isn't killing though huh. They get a free pass because kill chain and military and...? Terrorism?

I don't think so.

If I shoot a gun and the bullet punches through a house 2 miles away I get charged. Equal standards or none at all. And equal is off the table, so its just none at all.