Fertility the elephant in the room

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Your kids are grown and one in college. I'm calling BS in you!

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Xcalibur254

It seems that a lot of women, in this report on a Twitter thread were not so lucky. Many are having serious menstrual disruptions after the jab. Since it is a personal thing many are seemingly very careful not to be an anti-vaxer but... www.bitchute.com...

Bitchute video about twitter posts.

Sounds legite.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Not sure where you got that info from but I definitely have a 4-week old infant asleep on me right now.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Grenade

In this BBC article from 2020, it states that there is already a steep organic decline in population, and the West is allowing immigration to take up the slack. The reasons put forward are access to contraceptives and more jobs in the workforce for women, basically, when women are freed up they don't want to just stay at home and have babies. So the social change with regard to females seems to be the driving force behind the natural decline in births. So if the vaccine is also acting like the morning after pill. Align this with a higher average death rate, we might be seeing a rapid decline with regards to population.
Mandatory or coerced jabs have been going for over a year now. so it will be an interesting read when the 2022 figures come out if they ever do. www.bbc.com...

What the BBC isn't saying is that women are leaving starting a family too late in the UK and are thus having more problems conceiving, plus there are real problems with obesity.

Male fertility is also dropping in part due to obscenity but also in part because guys are watching too much porn and are spanking it too often so their sperm don't get a chance to mature properly.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

but also in part because guys are watching too much porn and are spanking it too often so their sperm don't get a chance to mature properly.

Clearly not true as I have kids...

a reply to: ScepticScot

Anything which is against the government narrative gets altered. The rise in cancer rates in the US military was suddenly pulled with the conclusion that the original figures were a mistake, there are no bio labs in Ukraine. One judge cancels mandates but is corrected when another reinstates them. One jab will cure the Covid, now it's the fourth one that will do the trick. All the athletes dropping like flies is just a normal attrition rate. The current inflation which will impoverish you is transitory. So speaks the ministry of truth. So good luck with what you want to believe, but as far as I am concerned the truth doesn't need the whole of the Msn pushing it, it is self-evident.

a reply to: anonentity

Simply not true. This is a combination of misattribution, misdirection and basic lies.

If you look at the source data it shows a relatively normal curve, most miscarriages are during a very specific period of pregnancy which holds the greatest overall risk of miscarriage with very little deviation form the norm. And certainly none that's statistically significant.

In order to get the high figure that he's proposing you need to take women in the highest risk period, narrow the time frame considerably, and then limit it to only a subset of women who had their vaccination at a very specific time.

So, you're cherry picking cherry picked data, and then cherry picking it some more.

Look at the curve, look at all of the women over the entire course of pregnancy. There is no statistically significant different pre or post vax.

This is the statistical equivalent of saying that space travel is impossible by doing a survey that only includes flat earthers building steam powered rockets.

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: AaarghZombies

but also in part because guys are watching too much porn and are spanking it too often so their sperm don't get a chance to mature properly.

Clearly not true as I have kids...

Then you're clearly bad at masturbating.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Xcalibur254

It seems that a lot of women, in this report on a Twitter thread were not so lucky. Many are having serious menstrual disruptions after the jab. Since it is a personal thing many are seemingly very careful not to be an anti-vaxer but... www.bitchute.com...

Bitchute video about twitter posts.

Sounds legite.

You know what causes "menstrual disruption"?

Stress.

Like maybe if you were living through a pandemic, and were being bombarded with doom porn telling you that the vax would make you sterile.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: ScepticScot

Anything which is against the government narrative gets altered. The rise in cancer rates in the US military was suddenly pulled with the conclusion that the original figures were a mistake, there are no bio labs in Ukraine. One judge cancels mandates but is corrected when another reinstates them. One jab will cure the Covid, now it's the fourth one that will do the trick. All the athletes dropping like flies is just a normal attrition rate. The current inflation which will impoverish you is transitory. So speaks the ministry of truth. So good luck with what you want to believe, but as far as I am concerned the truth doesn't need the whole of the Msn pushing it, it is self-evident.

The truth is your claim in the OP was false.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: AaarghZombies

but also in part because guys are watching too much porn and are spanking it too often so their sperm don't get a chance to mature properly.

Clearly not true as I have kids...

Then you're clearly bad at masturbating.

You know what they say about practise.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

I guess a hundred years back if you were a woman, you could get married be a nurse or a prostitute. Now you can join the women's cricket or football team and be a star, who would want to stay home asking hubby for money, women were actually not much better than slaves with backing from the state. It seems to be a hangover from the Roman Law. So I suppose there will be great changes after all those years until things settle.

a reply to: AaarghZombies
Do you have a link that says wanking stops fertility?

A male does not ejaculate all of their sperm, and the body constantly produces more sperm. As a result, there will still be sperm in a male’s semen even if they ejaculate several times per day.

When a male goes several days without ejaculating, their sperm count rises slightly.

More frequent ejaculation lowers sperm count but is unlikely to affect fertility in healthy males.

a reply to: ScepticScot

It's too early to say for sure, but where are the tests to see if it had an effect on reproduction? there weren't any. But plenty of anecdotal indications it will.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: ScepticScot

It's too early to say for sure, but where are the tests to see if it had an effect on reproduction? there weren't any. But plenty of anecdotal indications it will.

Easy enough to look up.

www.nih.gov...

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: worldstarcountry

Not sure where you got that info from but I definitely have a 4-week old infant asleep on me right now.

Sorry to side track, but I'd give anything to be where you are right now. Enjoy every second.

And CONGRATULATIONS!

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: ScepticScot
The 'New England study' did not show a 83% miscarriage rate. This has been shown to be false multiple times on this site.

I explained right above you what they did and why I find it to be unacceptable. Not sure what specific study you're talking about, but it likely used 6+ weeks.

That seems fine for academia, but excluding the highest risk pregnancies certainly doesn't seem acceptable on a vaccine trial. If that's happening across the board on trials it should corrected immediately. A 5% increase in spontaneous abortions across the first 4 weeks would be a serious issue. That's not a big deal really until you start forcing people to take them.

The study I am talking about the is the one referenced the OP and the claim about miscarriage rate is false.

if you want to include pre test miscarriages then you also need to include that in your control so the study doesn't show evidence of an increase.

I didn't watch that. I almost never watch any of these interviews or presentations. I'll respond to posts, but I haven't the patience for listening through these long things I could easily read in a minute or two.

I think for a vaccine trial they should have a control. They need to pay people for trials. Find the appropriate people they need. If it takes years it takes years. The data set is never going to grow until somebody starts collecting it. There are all kinds of fertility clinics all over the world, start partnering. Whatever it takes.

After the fact studies I don't really have an issue with whatever methodology they use, it just impacts the quality of their work. There has been a significant decline in what's acceptable.

I completely agree about videos. They seem to be used as a substitute for thinking.

Studies on any medical treatment are always somewhat of a compromise between speed and completeness. If there is clear benefit in using the treatment how long do you put off using it to make sure every possible piece of evidence is collected?

With regard the study mentioned the claim is showed an increase is false. If you want to compare pre test rates then that would require a different study on relative pregnancy rates.

That's exactly what I think they should do. I was unaware this wasn't studied. I don't know if it's common practice, but it shouldn't be. We have lots of marginally important vaccines coming out very soon with the mRNA era and time shouldn't be an issue in releasing them.

Vaccine trial for women trying to get pregnant in the next X months, you follow compare for another month and the full term of any pregnant. Ultrasounds and studies for women that didn't, see if there's an obvious thing the vaccine did. There's lots of data and they haven't been at all shy about extrapolating. They have many PhDs and MDs that should be able to pull together an experimental design. You may not see if there are minor deviations, but you could stop a serious disaster.

There's no reason these trials couldn't be concurrently with others when time is an issue.

It's presented dishonestly right now and they still don't have a real good idea how it effects fertility. Menstral problems make it seem plausible. The numbers on all the later stages of pregnancy seem fairly fine. So, it's also plausible that any effect is temporary. It was dishonest for them to say safe and effective for pregnant or trying to. It was a blanket statement they made with almost no data support it. They were also dishonest across the board on demographics, in which nearly all women traditionally getting pregnant are at relatively low risk. These two statements may very well have cost women pregnancies, I'd say almost definitely.

We won't know for years now. It'll be studied, but not with any urgency now they've got approvals.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

That's not really what I was saying, it won't make you infertile, but it will reduce your chances of getting someone pregnant.

Each time you beat your meat your body has to generate more sperm to replace the ones that that you've deposited in the bushes outside of your sister's best friend's bedroom window. It takes time to replace them, and they take time to mature.

So the more you spank it the less you have and the less mature they are.

Survey about college students wacking it

a reply to: Ksihkehe

If you look at the link a few above there seems to be no impact in fertility .

Since that is measured by a positive test there is no impact on pre test miscarriage.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Nope! You can masturbate as much as you want without lowering your sperm count. There are lots of myths around masturbating, but the truth is that masturbation is perfectly safe! It’s also totally normal and healthy.