We Probably Never Made it to the Moon

a reply to: captainpudding

That's why i said "other than life support", which i stated as a critical system. I then provided an example of how you could maintain a breathable atmosphere while killing electronic systems for the short duration of the passage through the radiation.

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: Grenade

Why does everything have to be black or white?

Why can't NASA lie sometimes and say the truth at other times?

I wonder though if they were actually on Mars why would they have to pretend to be?

There's not even an attempt to answer this, regarding biological organisms being in their supposed Mars photos:

Many will argue we already have rovers on mars, which is further than the moon. But they actually got ratted out by a lemming located on Devon Island in Northern Canada:



The top photo is supposedly a picture from the Mars rover, but if you zoom in you can see there is clearly a rodent in the picture. These specific types of rodents are native to Devon Island in Northern Canada. But surely this must be a mistake? Nope... NASA is actually stationed in Devon Island:

"In addition to communications, equipment testing, and vehicular and extra-vehicular operations, Devon Island is the site of the Exploration program, which aims to develop new technologies, strategies, and operational protocols to support the future exploration of the moon, Mars, and other planets." -NASA

So if they can actually make it, why would they fake it like this?

a reply to: cooperton

It's not a rodent. It's a rock that looks like a rodent.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: neutronflux

By your own logic you should be a cheerleader for vaccines. Plenty of studies, data and analysis from respected institutions which advocate for their necessity and safety. Yet, thread after thread you question the official narrative in the face of evidence.

Not only are you rude, but totally inconsistent.

That has nothing to do with..

What does the accumulated and recorded data of radar, radio telemetry, radio transmissions, moon photographing, moon mapping that confirm the Apollo missions have to do with your intellectually dishonest arguments over dust?


Now you are having to change the subject to vaccines

a reply to: neutronflux

The science behind my questions over the behaviour of moon dust has been referenced and sourced. Just because you lack the intellectual capacity to understand that science doesn't render it dishonest.

You could prove me wrong by challenging the information, but instead, once again you've made it personal rather than debating the subject matter.

Now can you please get back on topic and stop the childish insults?

Is the earth still flat? Asking for a friend?

originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: cooperton
But then you have the Dutch who analyzed their "moon rock" from the US and it turned out to be petrified wood. One of the few substances that definitely aren't on the moon.

It was the U.S. ambassador that gave the rock to a former prime minister of the Netherlands. The museum got the rock from the estate of the former prime minister, so there's too many people involved to know for sure what happened.

There isn't actually much other than circumstantial evidence that the Ambassodor gave the ex-president (who didn't attend the meeting with the astronauts) anything more than a card.

I've looked it in detail:

onebigmonkey.com...

The Dutch didn't do much analysis - it was mistakenly put on display as the genuine article after an art exhibiotion had finished with it. A geologist visiting hte museum identified it.

No-one from NASA ever gave any samples out on the Apollo 11 goodwill mission (the samples were still in quarantine then), and they never claimed that fossil was from the moon.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Feel free to provide the photos and the satellite data.

onebigmonkey.com...

There's a lot to get through.

Take your time.

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Cheers, having a look now.

a reply to: Grenade

You

Just because you lack the intellectual capacity to understand that science doesn't render it dishonest.

And knowledgeable posters in this thread have given you honest and science based explanations why the quality of footprints on the moon are what they are.


Can you refute their explanation as being false.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Already done. If you read the thread before reacting I’ve already updated and shown the photo locations with an overhead map. Good idea to read the entire thread to see how a debate unfolds before you jump in head first.

That's not what I asked you to do. Try and read posts before you jump in head first.

Overlay the two photos you posted and try and make the backgrounds match exactly.

I'll wait.

Double post

a reply to: Grenade

You

You could prove me wrong by challenging the information, but instead, once again you've made it personal rather than debating the subject matter.

Nope. Your the one that wants to stereotype people that acknowledge the overwhelming evidence that man landed on the moon as state worshiping. With your biased views.

So, try again…

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Sold, this at least to me proves they made it to Lunar Orbit. Exactly the kind of analysis i was looking for.

Thank you.

Onebigmonkey - Apollo 11

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo



I've already stated i changed my stance on these photos after further research and the help of ArMap.

a reply to: neutronflux

Can you stop filling up my inbox with replies please? As i stated i'm no longer willing to debate with you due to the childish insults and rude attitude.

originally posted by: Grenade
Where have i done that?

That wasn't directed specifically at you, it was more of a general question.

originally posted by: cooperton
The top photo is supposedly a picture from the Mars rover, but if you zoom in you can see there is clearly a rodent in the picture. These specific types of rodents are native to Devon Island in Northern Canada.

If that's a rodent (and that's a huge "if"), then it's not the same species of rodent that exists on Devon Island, as you can see that the front paws of the rodent photo are placed much back than what appears to be the front paws of the "Martian rodent". The Earth rodent has a head, a neck, shoulders and then the front paws, the "Martian rodent" appears to either have the front paws on the base of the head or not to have front paws at all.

Edited to add that the rocks on Devon Island are different from the rocks we see on the Mars photos, the Mars rocks do not show any sign of water erosion and the wind erosion is slightly different.

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
There isn't actually much other than circumstantial evidence that the Ambassodor gave the ex-president (who didn't attend the meeting with the astronauts) anything more than a card.

Ex Prime Minister, the Netherlands is a monarchy.

I've looked it in detail:

onebigmonkey.com...

The Dutch didn't do much analysis - it was mistakenly put on display as the genuine article after an art exhibiotion had finished with it. A geologist visiting hte museum identified it.

Thanks for that.

We have not made it to the moon, and the Apollo footage is suspicious at best......

They have made it to the moon....

By "they" I mean the shadow people that run the world along with the ETs they collaborate with....