Forget Ukraine better be watching North Korea and South Korea

1. MIM's Street Talk, was it based on the activity over the last year of US military jets flying over my head. ( the mod said NO, just training exercises )
which we all here knew is true.
2. I just happen to be watching TV filmed by I assume an international reporter located at the DMC Zone . Time 3 pm Tokyo
3. So I said to myself, holy shi$$t , what is going down at the DMC Zone
4. I decided to try to get some information (current ) April 4 on it. Nothing shows up but the following

5. I don't like to use these words " I think " , but ' ELEPHANT WALK ' is in operation in South Korea.

By Josh Smith and Hyonhee Shin

SEOUL (Reuters) - Joint South Korean and U.S. military drills set to kick off next month could for the first time in years include more weaponry and troops, and more aggressive messaging as tensions with North Korea rise.

more on this can be found here
www.usnews.com...

6. What kind of sanctions does Japan have on North Korea.
www.upi.com...

7. Will Biden abandon the troops in South Korea
nation.time.com...

For those Vets that have served in South Korea can you add on to the thread.

8. I don't know if the US govt. has an evacuation plan for Japan, not that it would matter much with Biden under the pillow case in times of emergency.

I don't know about forget Ukraine but directly after the invasion there was this headline making rounds which made me go uh-oh:

China's Xi, in message to N.Korea's Kim, vows cooperation under 'new situation'

link

I think Ukraine, Taiwan, NK,... it's all connected.

#unipolar
#multipolar

a reply to: musicismagic

I remember reading an article about what would happen if NK and SK went to war. The time for soldiers to live is measured in seconds. The reality is if NK attacked SK, the soldiers on the DMZ have approximately 30 seconds to live. They are not there to act as a defense, they are there to act as a deterrent to attack, because the USA losing 30k troops the first day of the attack would trigger a massive response from us. NK knows this, therefore they have not and will not attack. Sure there may be some small artillery fire, but a true response from NK would not only include 1.3 MILLION artillery being fired, but ICBM's and missiles hitting Japan. Some with and without Nuclear. The result would be the USA hitting NK with everything and then some to stop the military cold. Any assets left in the Pacific would hammer them either further, and you'd more than likely see China invade them pre-emptively as to avoid the nation falling to the USA and Allies. It would result in massive damage, and would be the death of the NK regime. As such, this will not happen. There may be some artillery firing, and 20-100 troops dying, but it won't escalate past that.

Camain

originally posted by: camain
a reply to: musicismagic

I remember reading an article about what would happen if NK and SK went to war. The time for soldiers to live is measured in seconds. The reality is if NK attacked SK, the soldiers on the DMZ have approximately 30 seconds to live. They are not there to act as a defense, they are there to act as a deterrent to attack, because the USA losing 30k troops the first day of the attack would trigger a massive response from us. NK knows this, therefore they have not and will not attack. Sure there may be some small artillery fire, but a true response from NK would not only include 1.3 MILLION artillery being fired, but ICBM's and missiles hitting Japan. Some with and without Nuclear. The result would be the USA hitting NK with everything and then some to stop the military cold. Any assets left in the Pacific would hammer them either further, and you'd more than likely see China invade them pre-emptively as to avoid the nation falling to the USA and Allies. It would result in massive damage, and would be the death of the NK regime. As such, this will not happen. There may be some artillery firing, and 20-100 troops dying, but it won't escalate past that.

Camain

I don't know about that. Kim's sister has been on Japanese TV for the last 7 days sprouting some war time words of caution.
Biden screwed up. Even if acts, it will be too late. Like Trump said " Sleepy Joe is incompetent to even open up the fridge ".

a reply to: musicismagic

Biden screwed up. Even if acts, it will be too late. Like Trump said " Sleepy Joe is incompetent to even open up the fridge ".

That is just a cover story to exploit sympathy from the decent people. With the scale of fraud in the last election, America has been invaded. The only real threat it had was from within and that has been conquered.

Biden is a servant to the Kingdom of Darkness. As he takes America on a highway to hell, the rest of the world is at risk at falling into this trap.

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: musicismagic

Biden screwed up. Even if acts, it will be too late. Like Trump said " Sleepy Joe is incompetent to even open up the fridge ".

That is just a cover story to exploit sympathy from the decent people. With the scale of fraud in the last election, America has been invaded. The only real threat it had was from within and that has been conquered.

Biden is a servant to the Kingdom of Darkness. As he takes America on a highway to hell, the rest of the world is at risk at falling into this trap.

For real, was that MIM's Street Talk of " AMERICA'S SPIDER WEB TRAP'. I don't know, I'm NOT ATS' prophet .

a reply to: musicismagic

China ALWAYS uses North Korea as a proxy to do their dirty work. If they didn't, China would starve every last one of them to death. North Korea relies too heavily on China for it's survival.

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: musicismagic

China ALWAYS uses North Korea as a proxy to do their dirty work. If they didn't, China would starve every last one of them to death. North Korea relies too heavily on China for it's survival.

I know, but most Americans don't know that. North Korea has one of the most modern malls that the rich can really buy anything there. Yes, poverty exist just like it does everywhere in the States.

a reply to: musicismagic

Over 40% of North Koreans are malnourished. Despite the fact that there are wealthy people like anywhere else, the rich have the Chinese to thank for those riches. Chinese banks even allow North Korea to avoid sanctions. In my opinion, China has total control of everything North Korea does. If they make a move ANYWHERE, it's only because China is directing it.

originally posted by: musicismagic
For those Vets that have served in South Korea can you add on to the thread.

They just held an election.

The outgoing administration (bunch'a damned commies) is being replaced by something like a moderate democrat.

That means the NORKS aren't going to be getting as much for free.

Will have to see how much jail time the outgoing admin gets. The guy taking the helm is the former prosecutor.

originally posted by: camain
a true response from NK would not only include 1.3 MILLION artillery being fired, but ICBM's and missiles hitting Japan. Some with and without Nuclear. The result would be the USA hitting NK with everything and then some to stop the military cold. Any assets left in the Pacific would hammer them either further, and you'd more than likely see China invade them pre-emptively as to avoid the nation falling to the USA and Allies.

I don't think so. The NORKS are a satellite of China (possibly smear Russia with that label too).

If the NORKs launch a single strategic weapon, the result would make for a bad day in both North Korea and China (and maybe Russia too). North Korea and China would disappear from the face of the Earth in 3 1/2 minutes or less.

We used to keep tactical nukes on the peninsula back in the '80s. We withdrew those under a policy of total annihilation by strategic forces. I've seen it war-gamed ... right after the conventional games end, and it's just the big-boys sitting around puffing cigars and sipping Single Malts. Ain't much clean-up work as China has crap for a navy, but the loose ends are too easily tied.

a reply to: musicismagic

The military does elephant walks pretty commonly. It's a great way to train for certain deployment practices (ie MITO), works well for communication discipline (it takes a lot of work to get that many aircraft that organized), and more.

The fact that it's a great show of force (unless you towed the aircraft and parked them like Germany did last year) and makes for a great photo op is just a bonus.

a reply to: Snarl

Its about maintaining power for Kim. He won't full out attack, and the US and Allies won't force him too. The reality is doing so would destroy not just SK, but Japan as well. They get that, China gets it, we get it. Hence a full our war is off the table. They'll launch missiles, do an artillery barrage on some empty island, take some fishing boats, and small stupid stuff like that, but they won't go all out. We would only respond with Sanctions etc. At the end of the day the status quo is maintained. That's basically what I am saying. NK has been acting the same way for 50 years, they are not going to destroy their military, or their elite. They have control of what they have now, and will for 5000 years unless we try to stop them, which we won't. the west needs a boogie man, they are one. China needs to have them to maintain their objectives, and Japan and SK needs theirs to maintain their status quo. Something drastic would have to change for anything like a war to happen. I just don't see that happening.

Camain

originally posted by: MindBodySpiritComplex
I don't know about forget Ukraine but directly after the invasion there was this headline making rounds which made me go uh-oh:

China's Xi, in message to N.Korea's Kim, vows cooperation under 'new situation'

link

I think Ukraine, Taiwan, NK,... it's all connected.

#unipolar
#multipolar

The cia controls Biden. How do I know... The call to Xi is classified and not available to the public. PERIOD and no one in Congress is fighting/ legally for its release. There's a reason why.

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: musicismagic
For those Vets that have served in South Korea can you add on to the thread.

They just held an election.

The outgoing administration (bunch'a damned commies) is being replaced by something like a moderate democrat.

That means the NORKS aren't going to be getting as much for free.

Will have to see how much jail time the outgoing admin gets. The guy taking the helm is the former prosecutor.

yep
the one that won is pro japan and american

the one that lost was anti-japanese ( america I dont know if he was or not )

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: camain
a true response from NK would not only include 1.3 MILLION artillery being fired, but ICBM's and missiles hitting Japan. Some with and without Nuclear. The result would be the USA hitting NK with everything and then some to stop the military cold. Any assets left in the Pacific would hammer them either further, and you'd more than likely see China invade them pre-emptively as to avoid the nation falling to the USA and Allies.

I don't think so. The NORKS are a satellite of China (possibly smear Russia with that label too).

If the NORKs launch a single strategic weapon, the result would make for a bad day in both North Korea and China (and maybe Russia too). North Korea and China would disappear from the face of the Earth in 3 1/2 minutes or less.

We used to keep tactical nukes on the peninsula back in the '80s. We withdrew those under a policy of total annihilation by strategic forces. I've seen it war-gamed ... right after the conventional games end, and it's just the big-boys sitting around puffing cigars and sipping Single Malts. Ain't much clean-up work as China has crap for a navy, but the loose ends are too easily tied.

I also believe the US military can crack the path patterns of any missiles leaving North Korea. One reason why the US military is pretty much keeping a low profile on this matter.
If they do find out that any missile is aimed at Guam or Hawaii, it will be shot down and an act of war against NK may happen. But I think they would know a head of time to evacuate military families from SK and Japan. Might be wrong on this. Sometimes lives have to be sacrificed to go to a fake war (AGAIN )

originally posted by: cmdrkeenkid
a reply to: musicismagic

The military does elephant walks pretty commonly. It's a great way to train for certain deployment practices (ie MITO), works well for communication discipline (it takes a lot of work to get that many aircraft that organized), and more.

The fact that it's a great show of force (unless you towed the aircraft and parked them like Germany did last year) and makes for a great photo op is just a bonus.

Thanks for the update info.

Im totally for Joseon, let it unite again ! Joseon had hundreds years of History on their own which was wiped out by Russia and Japan ( shame on you guys) well it is history, still people in South Korea wishes Koreas to unite and peace to their borders.

originally posted by: camain
Something drastic would have to change for anything like a war to happen. I just don't see that happening.

Start looking around then. There's more than $$$ at play for the power brokers. They're looking to grab up all the land they can acquire while everyone is distracted. Look at how little attention Hillary Clinton's initiatives inside Hungary got in The Press. Real land has value. Real gold has value. It's hard to move either of those from one place to another.

Somebody made a huge oversight 'icing' Russia's gold. They'll be falling all over themselves trying to give it back if the West's meddlings flop. Am unconcerned about what manipulations (as discussed in this thread) could be used as a catalyst. What concerns me is who has gotten past the new-fangled psychological screenings and handed responsibilities for turning keys. If/When Russia gets her gold back, what emerges can't be stopped, and the final demise of US domination of the World's Reserve Currency will be at-hand. Very dangerous climax that.

Biden and his admin are incapable of guiding us through these turbulent times.