Israeli funeral directors are overrun and see deaths increase tenfold.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Kind of like what the actual virus does, but at a million times more than the vaccine?

Where's the logic in that when there are countless people who have been vaccinated who are still getting the virus too? That sounds like a double whammy to me. More people died in 2021 than 2020 and unless everyone of them has an autopsy, we're never going to know the true stats on that.

a reply to: Xtrozero

First off, comparing this vaccine to any you've ever take in a stretch, considering this is the first time a mRNA vaccine has hit the market. Secondly, I have not had one person tell me that they were asked to wait after taking the covid vax. I've heard from some stories online of people whom were asked to wait, but no one in my family who has taken it or collogues that I work with were asked to wait; just jabbed and sent on their merry way.

Thirdly, and the most concerning part of your post to me considering you seem to be frustrated with people who don't trust this vax, is the two week issue. What you don't understand is that people are not classified as vaccinated for two weeks after receiving the shot. This means that if they die as soon as they get home, that death will likely not be classified in data as the death of a vaccinated person. This is concerning considering this is the first time this tech has been unleashed on people and there is a lot of anecdotal information showing concern. Unfortunately, anecdotal evidence was all that we had for quite some time because data surrounding the whole pandemic is obfuscated and censored, especially anything that could be considered anti-vax.

a reply to: Xtrozero

What do you see as long-term here?

8-10 years is pretty standard in vaccination development before covid. It took a few years for the industry to wake up to the dangers of thalidomide. With increased reports of miscarriages and other menstrual issues going on, looks pretty insane from those trying to push this on pregnant mothers.

When it comes to new techniques that are based on genetic process, long term is generations to really know just what it is this planet is signing up for.

a reply to: Deetermined

A double whammy indeed. I, as an unvaccinated person have had covid twice. Both times, though not pleasant, it was like any one of the flu's I've had in the past. The second time was even extremely mild. Hmm... almost seems like I had some level of immunity for that one. Curious, how very curious...

A major factor that no-one seems to talk about is the study in cell that showed mRNA and spike protein in the subject for TWO MONTHS after vaccination. Now, they seemed to indicate that this was at majorly reduced levels, but if every few months you get another jab this could quickly lead to a lot of spikes in your system, especially if you are also exposed to one of the variants of live virus.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Ok. Sure.

LOL!

Once again, I don't even have to check this out.

It's BS.

Ah the good ole days when you were a conspiracy theorist if you ever claimed that you can catch COVID after being fully vaccinated...

originally posted by: Deetermined

Where's the logic in that when there are countless people who have been vaccinated who are still getting the virus too? That sounds like a double whammy to me. More people died in 2021 than 2020 and unless everyone of them has an autopsy, we're never going to know the true stats on that.

So maybe, heaven forbid, it isn't what the doom porn people are suggesting when the actual virus is dumping spike protein into people millions of times more than anything the vaccine could do.

All the vaccine does is prim your immune pump in you have a lesser chance to get it and if you do you have a much greater chance to have lesser symptoms. That is it, nothing more or less, BUT for someone that is a high risk that is HUGE for them.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Seeing as you refuse to read and absorb anything we have said here or provided you with links to, you sir or madam, are a lost cause. I hope for your sake that you do not have any adverse reactions and that none of your loved ones do either. Unfortunately, for the hundreds of thousands worldwide that you seemingly don't believe exist, the people injured directly by this vaccine, that isn't the case.

originally posted by: andr3w68

First off, comparing this vaccine to any you've ever take in a stretch, considering this is the first time a mRNA vaccine has hit the market.

Not the first time it has been used in humans...

Secondly, I have not had one person tell me that they were asked to wait after taking the covid vax. I've heard from some stories online of people whom were asked to wait, but no one in my family who has taken it or collogues that I work with were asked to wait; just jabbed and sent on their merry way.

That is just poor practice, I was told to wait 3 times. There is a very small chance with all vaccines a person can experience a bad reaction. So what is your point here?

Thirdly, and the most concerning part of your post to me considering you seem to be frustrated with people who don't trust this vax, is the two week issue.

I don't give a crap if you do or not. If you should get it due to preexisting conditions and don't and then die so be it. I'm very libertarian in that area. I just see so much doom porn as the reason people don't trust it and so I speak up, but do or do not as Yoda would say...lol

What you don't understand is that people are not classified as vaccinated for two weeks after receiving the shot. This means that if they die as soon as they get home, that death will likely not be classified in data as the death of a vaccinated person.

That is total BS, so try again. It is two totally different things here being viewed as fully vaccinated and having issues with the vaccine. They are not one and the same in any way shape or form.

This is concerning considering...

it is not since you are basically inventing a concern that is not reality.

originally posted by: kwakakev

8-10 years is pretty standard in vaccination development before covid. It took a few years for the industry to wake up to the dangers of thalidomide. With increased reports of miscarriages and other menstrual issues going on, looks pretty insane from those trying to push this on pregnant mothers.

So during that 8-10 years, they are giving it to people. In fact, once a drug passes phase 3 it goes to market. Then it goes into the monitoring phase where they monitor the public for further reactions. They make the new flu shot every year., so that 8 to 10 years doesn't work too well with that..lol

When it comes to new techniques that are based on genetic process, long term is generations to really know just what it is this planet is signing up for.

So they started to give humans mRNA about 10 years ago, so are we good on the 8 to 10 years now?
The reality is that mRNA has had fewer negative reactions than viral vector vaccines like J&J.

originally posted by: andr3w68

Seeing as you refuse to read and absorb anything we have said here or provided you with links to, you sir or madam, are a lost cause. I hope for your sake that you do not have any adverse reactions and that none of your loved ones do either. Unfortunately, for the hundreds of thousands worldwide that you seemingly don't believe exist, the people injured directly by this vaccine, that isn't the case.

I have seen the links reported for over a year now. I investigated many and they all turn to crap once you actually look into them a little. I will call a vaccine bad if bad and the J&J looks to be the one with the most issues like blood clots. The biggest issue is the numbers game played here. YES there are some side effects just as with any other vaccine, hell even aspirin 87 mg kills like 4000 people in the US yearly, freaken aspirin...The problem is that people are inflating the numbers to some massive level in justifying their concerns about the vaccines. If you do not want it then good for you, you really do not need a reason, or create one as so many seem to be doing.

a reply to: Sander1976

I heard it is true... what do you think?

Imagine people who got the vaccine got aids???

a reply to: Xtrozero

hell even aspirin 87 mg kills like 4000 people in the US yearly,

Do you have a link for that?

I can't find anything about 87mg aspirin......they only mention 81 mg aspirin online.

Check out Drbeen latest vid on yt.

I think this rollercoaster isn't at his end yet.

a reply to: ChineseTranslator

Blood clots can be caused by a number of factors even in young otherwise healthy people. A friend of mine had multiple strokes and a heart attack at 32, in April of 2019. A previously undiagnosed heart valve defect caused clots to form, which then broke off and lodged in his brain. Not a single symptom or abnormal heart rhythm/function proceeded it.
Just saying, there's more than one possibility.
reply to: Deetermined

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle]

Sadly, I have. Number 24 died the beginning of January from the jab.

Cheers - Dave

First of all, I'm sorry you lost 24 friends, family and acquaintances over the past year or so. That must be devastating. If I lost 24 people much of my support group would be gone.

How do you know they died from the jab? Did they die shortly after?

I wonder why such losses are so irregular. One person losing so many and many others none at all all.

originally posted by: BlackArrow
a reply to: InwardDiver

Yes, but you have to remember they just keep calling it new strains while biologically developing new ones..

I don't understand this statement. Are you saying that new strains exist but they are created rather than naturally developed?

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Xtrozero

Kind of like what the actual virus does, but at a million times more than the vaccine?

Where's the logic in that when there are countless people who have been vaccinated who are still getting the virus too? That sounds like a double whammy to me. More people died in 2021 than 2020 and unless everyone of them has an autopsy, we're never going to know the true stats on that.

Many of the vaxxed people who got covid were completely asymptomatic, or had extremely mild symptoms.

This is what a Vax does. It reduces your chances of getting sick. It's not a magic forcefield.

You can have trace amounts of covid trapped in your nasal hairs or the mucus in your throat, but because you are vaxxed you don't get sick, and you don't transmit it to others.

It's more that you are contaminated with covid than infected with it.

a reply to: AaarghZombies
I didn't know that there have never been any covid deaths in the vaccinated....wow.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AaarghZombies
I didn't know that there have never been any covid deaths in the vaccinated....wow.

It reduces the risk of death by up to around 85 percent, depending on the individual. And decease the duration of moderate sickness by around 3 to 5 days. Again depending on the individual. This is pretty much what you would expect. It's in line with other vaxxers.