War crimes being committed by Ukraine (GRAPHIC)

Very disturbing and the word will pass on to the Russians to not surrender to those murderers. # like that will only create hate for there enemies.

If someone invades my Country, I'd be happy to commit a few war crimes on them. Especially if they were targeting civilians and children.

I'm not seeing a problem here.

War is hell. That's why it's to be avoided AT ALL COSTS.

a reply to: MiddleInsite

So I guess you don't have a problem with ISIS doing the same at the time its the new normal now.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Funny how you pick and choose your war crimes…,

Mikhail Mizintsev: Bloody past of Russian Colonel dubbed ‘Butcher of Mariupol’

A high-ranking Russian commander who called for officers’ ears to be cut off has been identified as the man behind the shocking strikes on schools and hospitals in Ukraine.

www.dailytelegraph.com.au... 690eeb878df75d?amp&nk=14b78525ff36418389c1106463376885-1648377981

Wrong or right. Maybe Russia shouldn’t have invaded.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

By the way you have repeatedly tried to justify the Russian invasion. Maybe one countries war crimes is another countries battle field trial and punishment.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Sad fact of the matter is they would not be in the situation they are or have war crimes committed against there person if they had remained in there own nation as opposed to invading Ukraine to carry out Putin's wet dream.

War is after all hell, and Putin put them there.

Which does not condone there actions, but that being said with there cities burning and civilian men woman and children dead and dying in the streets is it any wonder they have resorted to treating captured Russians as you suggest?

Russia and all loyalist Russians can always leave Ukraine and put a stop to all of this.

originally posted by: GravitySucks
Russia and all loyalist Russians can always leave Ukraine and put a stop to all of this.

Or the Ukrainians could surrender and stop the bloodshed.

originally posted by: NavyNut

originally posted by: GravitySucks
Russia and all loyalist Russians can always leave Ukraine and put a stop to all of this.

Or the Ukrainians could surrender and stop the bloodshed.

Surrender their sovereignty to Russia? Never.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

As with Syria and Burma, come back to me in 5 years time and tell me what did or didn't happen. The truth of events like this is rarely clear at the time they are supposedly happening.

I still remember the pictures of England sending in tanks to kill the protestors during the London riots ... they looked so realistic, what with the Arabic street signs in the background.

a reply to: NavyNut

Would you if it were your own nation and your own doorstep?

Better to die on your feet than serve on your knees NavyNut.

These poor sods are fighting for the very survival of their country and freedom.

And if they lose Putin will place some daft arsed puppet dictator in to power.

With Ukraine resembling the worst parts of the troubles in Northern Ireland for decades to come.

Plus how do you hold a nation with a population of 44 million when current military doctrine dictates a ratio of 20 troops to every 1000 civilians to achieve a modicum of peace and control?

By my estimation Putin will require around 2.2 million troops to achieve that task which is apt to leave the rest of Russia rather undefended to say the least.

Russia should be the one who surrenders imho.

War is war and Hell is Hell. Of the two, war is worse. There are no innocent people in Hell, like there are in war. Sadly far worse things than what is portrayed in this video happen every day. Having spent a fair amount of time on r/narcofootage I can firmly say that the depravity of the human mind fascinates me.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Wasn't a Ukrainian medic bragging about how he was ordering his staff to castrate Russian POWs?

a reply to: IAMTAT

Its a horrible message to send and even worse atrocity to commit.

But the gist of the situation is if they wish to keep there tackle intact, best to turn tail and head home.

At least that's the intended message however misguided the case may be.

People are after all capable of tremendous acts of depravity as well a great acts of empathy.

a reply to: andy06shake

Would you if it were your own nation and your own doorstep?

Not everyone here is an American.

how do you hold a nation with a population of 44 million when current military doctrine dictates a ratio of 20 troops to every 1000 civilians to achieve a modicum of peace and control?

Based on his troop deployments, Putin has no intention of holding Ukraine. He seems to want to annex several key areas which have a pro-Moscow ethnic Russian majority, and then to force the Ukrainian government to sue for peace under an unequal treaty that would let him rule the annexed territory, while the rest of Ukraine was a self governing demilitarized state.

In short, he doesn't want Ukraine, only parts of it.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

that is not what the video shows, dont lie. it just shows pow's being gathered and nothing more.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Including myself AaarghZombies.

I understand that Putin only wants parts of Ukraine.

But to get those parts is seems he intends or will be required to hold the majority of the area.

And to do so will require a force in numbers that as far as i can establish Russia cannot realistically field never mind hope supply and equip.

Well not without leaving the rest of their nation undefended and open to attack from within and without.

In short what Putin wants and what he will get may very well turn out to be two different stories.

If Russia doesn't like it they can go home, lol.

The legal regulation of any active war is completely asinine.

I don't personally think it's good practice, but neither is invading your neighboring country over some vestigial commie fetish.

This is just the opening act so they can't try to escape. Later they will get drunk and have a contest to see who has the sharpest knife while testing how much pain it takes to make a Russian soldier groan. I doubt any of those men will ever see home again and the only merciful ending is to bleed out before they start the next torture session.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
If someone invades my Country, I'd be happy to commit a few war crimes on them. Especially if they were targeting civilians and children.

I'm not seeing a problem here.

War is hell. That's why it's to be avoided AT ALL COSTS.

Civilized people have rules for war as bad as it is. Even if it is true, committing war crimes in response to other crimes is not a solution to anything. It almost guarantees escalation. Once word gets out this means both sides will fight to the death and will not accept surrender. Yes Russia is to blame for invading Ukraine but NATO bears responsibility too. The US would never accept a similar situation on the doorstep of America (Cuban missile crisis) and Putin has been warning the West for 20 years to stay back.

The thing is I don't think there are 2 sides to this conflict. I believe Putin and NATO take orders from the same bankers that financed both world wars. The only thing to change since then is further control over the economies of the world.