War crimes being committed by Ukraine (GRAPHIC)

Anonymous leaked a document from Russia with order to film propaganda videos in order to discredit the attitude of Ukrainian forces to POWs. Of course cannot verify the accuracy, although they have also Leaked all sorts of other information, hacked the cable network, and security cams at a military base which they live streamed, etc.
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel
Justifying that it's OK to shoot handcuffed POWs, leave them lying on the ground bleeding, putting bags over their heads is not cool, sorry.

The bags are nothing, don't try to gild the lily with something silly like that. I'm not cool with kneecapping prisoners but restricting POW's ability to gather intelligence is totally fine, it's not like it was a plastic bag and the duct taped it around their heads.

If the bags had anything to do with "a POWs ability to gather intelligence" they would all be wearing them, not just some of them.

Bags over their heads after theyve been shot is a just a form of torture.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Funny you ignore the elephant in the room…

www.the-sun.com...

Up to 90% of the city, home to 400,000 before the war, has been destroyed or damaged after a month of heavy shelling, according to Ukrainian authorities.


Dubbed the "Butcher of Mariupol", Col Mizintsev is officially known as the director of the Russian National Centre for Defence Management.

Ukraine has alleged that Putin's general was behind both the bombing of a maternity hospital in the city as well as the shelling of a theatre being used as a bomb shelter by up to 1,000 people.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Thing with the torture, if that is indeed what is transpiring, is that some may suggest cruise missile strikes and thermobaric rocket barrages on civilian targets constitutes that same or even worse.

originally posted by: TDDAgain
a reply to: Boadicea

Swoosh and right over your head again.

I suggest you call down.

Nope -- again.

Not only are we on a discussion forum where anyone can say what they want, we have the damn right to say what we want. But some seem to to think those rights have gone swoosh with the propaganda flying around the echo chambers.

And I'll keep saying whatever I damn well please just because I can. No video watching necessary.

Swoosh!

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel
If the bags had anything to do with "a POWs ability to gather intelligence" they would all be wearing them, not just some of them.

Bags over their heads after theyve been shot is a just a form of torture.

I disagree, it's not inhumane to restrict their vision once they're captured.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Flatcoat
I'm curious, how many people here would've been OK with Iraqis shooting American POW's when the US invaded?

I don't think it's about being okay with it, it's about understanding why they did it. At least for me it is.

so you will have the same understanding towards the Russians who commit similar crimes? crimes that easily could happen due to retaliation for the Ukrainian war crimes?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Yea...have to agree...thats normal and while maybe uncomfortable not gonna hurt anyone.

Now a 7.62x39 to the leg is a good way to kill someone. Even if they miss the kneecap there are some pretty major arteries there. Murdering POWs is pretty frowned on by basically every civilized nation on earth.

originally posted by: generik
so you will have the same understanding towards the Russians who commit similar crimes? crimes that easily could happen due to retaliation for the Ukrainian war crimes?

Yeah, although not as much as with Ukraine since they didn't invade Russia, but if this video turns out to be real and there's retaliation I would get it.

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

That is nothing compared to what they do to their own citizens.

In the video, a representative of the Ukrainian army executes a person in the most, accusing the person of having links with Russia. At the end of the video, the killer says "Glory to Ukraine, death to enemies"
VIOLENCE 18+

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A temporary base for Azov in Mariupol(basement of a school #25)they found a burnt cache of weapons, military uniforms they discarded and the body of a woman that was tortured and murdered had a swastica drawn in blood on her stomach.
www.youtube.com...
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a reply to: Grimpachi

Yea I posted about that one with the school on this thread. Not one cares though...its the western narrative or get lost in this thread. Here we ignore 8 years of crimes comitted on the donbass region and only care about what russia might have done.

a reply to: RickyD

It shocked me to see how this platform now has people that 100% prescribe to the official government position.

The other day I posted links to telegram and I was mocked. "who uses telegram" they said. Because they didn't have an account and couldn't watch the videos.

So, their sources are all derivatives of MSM or highly filtered and censored platforms like Twitter and Facebook.

Dozens of accounts on Twitter have been shut down for showing videos from the Russian side. People call it propaganda while thinking they are getting the correct narrative that perfectly aligns with MSM, Hollywood, big tech, and the government.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: generik
so you will have the same understanding towards the Russians who commit similar crimes? crimes that easily could happen due to retaliation for the Ukrainian war crimes?

...but if this video turns out to be real...

Wait! You've watched the video and you still don't know if it's true? It might just be propaganda???

So watching the war porn video doesn't automatically grant some kind of magical insight into the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth that just swooshes over the heads of those of us who didn't watch it?

Fascinating. Just fascinating.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Funny you ignore the elephant in the room…

www.the-sun.com...

Up to 90% of the city, home to 400,000 before the war, has been destroyed or damaged after a month of heavy shelling, according to Ukrainian authorities.


Dubbed the "Butcher of Mariupol", Col Mizintsev is officially known as the director of the Russian National Centre for Defence Management.

Ukraine has alleged that Putin's general was behind both the bombing of a maternity hospital in the city as well as the shelling of a theatre being used as a bomb shelter by up to 1,000 people.

I'm not sure why you keep posting this? How is this an "Elephant in the room?"

We have already discussed the maternity hospital at length. The UK SUN is calling him "the Butcher of Mariupol"? So what?

Start your own thread if you think you got NEW important information about any war crimes? Post your proof of these war crimes if you got any?

Just reading the quote from the article, now it's saying the theater was "shelled". What is it? I thought you guys said Russia dropped bombs on the theaters? Remember? It said "Children" really big in Russian so any planes could read this. Now it was shelling at the theater and not Russian war planes dropping bombs? That's what the MSM ran with for many days, Russia war planes dropped bombs on the theater. Did the MSM come out with any corrections and say "sorry there was no war planes, we meant it was Russian shelling"

You obviously didn't read that article I posted for you. There is more then enough proof, including people who were in the theater at one time, that this 2as a false flag by Azov. One of the Mariupol locals posted 3 days in advance that Azov was planning a false flag at the theater. It's right on the internet, on Telegram, time stamped. Why would someone post this? Seems mighty suspicious to me.

1000 people in the theater? Well there must be plenty of video of them digging some of the 1000 people out of the rubble at the theater. Have you seen any of this video? Must be a lot of victims and a lot of video. Up to 1000 people there would rescue and recovery missions for days if not weeks, have you seen the video?

originally posted by: Boadicea
Wait! You've watched the video and you still don't know if it's true? It might just be propaganda???

It seemed real or at the very least very well staged. The weapons fire seemed like it was real enough and not dubbed but this still doesn't prove who's who and doing what. I don't speak Ukrainian or Russian so I would have to rely on others to tell me if the accents and use of language were correct for what's being alleged.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
a reply to: Snarl
You are obviously aware of the larger geopolitical context here and closer ties to China that Putin has established. Besides destroying the petrodollar as the WRC Taiwan is going to be invaded likely within the next year or 2. The sharks smell blood in the water and the US has never looked weaker. All our hubris in foreign policy is getting ready to take a big chunk out of the American dream.

Link of Interest

America has a huge pile of gold in South Africa. Purportedly 2-3X larger than all Stateside reserves. You can see it under a huge American flag. I'm sure TPTB would prefer physical control over it, before the petrodollar is collapsed. I just wonder if anyone will foolishly try to move it across the ocean and into the country.

I think the overall problem with US policies is the people making them have grown so old they've got little left to lose. There's a problem when our leaders lack the physical strength, stamina or balance to even negotiate a flight of stairs.

a reply to: Grimpachi

If you'd like more sources you can share, I've been reading reports from the Dunbas region over at the Daily Expose UK. No signup or paywall (just requests for donations).

One recent report: Ukrainian Forces Want to Surrender and Azov Forces Started Shooting At Them – They Are At War With Each Other

I started reading there during Covid, and they still focus on Covid, but are also covering Ukraine now. I can't vouch for their accuracy, but they do present another side.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: DupontDeux

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel
OK, don't click on the video if you don't want to see blatant war crimes by Ukraine being committed on Russian soldiers. Shooting Russian soldiers that are in hand cuffs is absolutely disgusting. All we hear about is "Russia war crimes" but this here is BARBARIC by Ukraine.

Ukraine soldiers should know by doing this you run the risk of the same happening to captured Ukrainians. This war just keeps getting uglier. We will never see the American MSM covering this but it should reach the masses.

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I don't want to watch the video, so can you tell me how we, in this time of misinformation, can verify that this is actually Ukrainians committing those acts?

Because they are all wearing Ukrainian uniforms and they are shooting Russians in handcuffs. It isn't any MORE BLATANT AND OBVIOUS

Well, yes, I assumed that it is the uniforms that identifies them in the first place. What I am asking is how can we verify that it is actually Ukranians wearing Ukranian uniforms and Russians wearing Russian uniforms?


Obviously, if you are okay with shooting captured, unarmed, tied up human beings, you are okay with being deceptive.


Russia has more to gain by the recording and releasing of this video than Ukraine does. We should be aware of that. That being said, I think supporting evidence for this being members of the Azov Bettalion have emerged - from CNN of all places.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

That is nothing compared to what they do to their own citizens.

In the video, a representative of the Ukrainian army executes a person in the most, accusing the person of having links with Russia. At the end of the video, the killer says "Glory to Ukraine, death to enemies"
VIOLENCE 18+

htt ps://files.catbox.moe/8qfete.mp4

A temporary base for Azov in Mariupol(basement of a school #25)they found a burnt cache of weapons, military uniforms they discarded and the body of a woman that was tortured and murdered had a swastica drawn in blood on her stomach.
www.youtube.com...
ht tps://files.catbox.moe/hj9vo1.mp4
ht tps://files.catbox.moe/3h2x6g.jpg
ht tps://files.catbox.moe/3uyyvj.jpg
ht tps://files.catbox.moe/i7xzzx.jpg

Great videos to see the other side of things and what's really going on. The mainstream won't show or tell of these atrocities committed by Ukrainian forces so they have to get out other ways to the people.

There is brand new video that was just posted about Mariupol that looks good so far, I've just started it.

It's worth watching...

m.youtube.com...

a reply to: DupontDeux

One of the Russian soldiers that was on the ground talking has already been identified.