Germany about to ban "Z" symbol like swastika

One could also argue that the Z is basically the anti-wolfsangel (the symbol used by the Asov Batallion) - which actually would kinda make sense with the whole denazification idea. But some of the Russian troops were also marked with a V instead of a Z. V for Vendetta, Zorro also for Vendetta/Vengeance...

¯_(ツ)_/¯


Just how pathetic is it to cancel and sanction everything vaguely Russian because the big hegemon over the pond demands it and yet rely on Russian gas. I. Just. Can't...

a reply to: DerBeobachter

Agreed, I think the most rage will come from the fuel prices. Take the German's their "Heiligs Blechle" away like currently (car; for non south Germans) and # will get serious.

I fault those that voted green while living on the land, too. Who the # votes green when you live on the land and need to communte 50km to work, who in their right minds votes for a party that openly threatens individual car usage?

Answer: No one but the Germans.

a reply to: TDDAgain
But, but A.C.A.B is so nice and sweet, and dear Robert (Habeck), the children's book author, looks like mother-in-law's favorite, how dare you not to vote for the WEF agents, WEF agenda contributors and young global leaders like the transatlantic controlled war hawk ACABaerbock? They are "green", you have no other choice or you will be cancelled...

Let me ask you again with the words of Chucky the climate puppet:

HOW DARE YOU???

What can I say? When it comes to stoopidity, Germany is demonstrating their mad skillz.

I wouldn't worry too much about it though... Prince showed us the way. From now on, the last letter of the albhabet is "the letter formerly known as Z." Problem solved.

A, B, C, D... E, F, G,
H, I, J, K... L-M-N-O-P,
Q, R, S, T... U and V,
W, X... Y and the letter formerly known as Z.
Now I know my politically correct ABCs,
Won't you come and be stoopid with me?

(I have to point out that it seems Germany is actually banning themselves... no more "ze haf vays of making you tawk!" Now it's "ze haf vays of making you siwent! Ze vill ban your vords by banning your favorite wetters!")

TheRedneck

a reply to: TDDAgain

Answer: No one but the Germans.

Actually, quite a few American progressives as well.

This happens when ideology decouples from everyday reality.

Cheers

More wasted time and funds on stupid bureaucracy and politics , political correctness who knows. Useless anyway

originally posted by: MindBodySpiritComplex
One could also argue that the Z is basically the anti-wolfsangel (the symbol used by the Asov Batallion) - which actually would kinda make sense with the whole denazification idea. But some of the Russian troops were also marked with a V instead of a Z. V for Vendetta, Zorro also for Vendetta/Vengeance...

¯_(ツ)_/¯


Just how pathetic is it to cancel and sanction everything vaguely Russian because the big hegemon over the pond demands it and yet rely on Russian gas. I. Just. Can't...

It's a symbol for Russian victory. Za pobedu. Nothing vague about it. I believe in the right to fly Nazi flags because I prefer dangerous animals being visible and self evident so I know where they are.

How dare they?

To discriminate the poor letter Z?

I guess i will create a GoFundMe campaign to found a NGO to save the poor letter Z from being discriminated and demonized by neusprech- and cancel culturing fascists.

Zorro for Future or something like this. I hope i will be allowed to jump around on german streets on frid...saturdays. And i really would appreciate if Mommy Merkel comes to pat my head for my fight for the good thing.

Otherwise we end up with book burnings because the texts in the books contain some evil Z´s.

Question for a friend, are Z´s still evil, even Putin evil, if they are not white?

a reply to: DerBeobachter

Will it be okay if Germans say "zee" vice "zed" ?



Cheers

a reply to: TDDAgain

So, is "Z for Zorro" also de-facto banned ?

Z is both a reference to the novel World War Z (en.wikipedia.org...) and to the name of some of the Axis’ operations, like the attack on Pearl Harbor (en.wikipedia.org...).

a reply to: M5xaz

Only if it expresses something about Ukraine, so yes.

a reply to: MarxistDebunker

You might want to search for the term Z with a dagger and leave the "world war Z" explanations for good. Its your best shot at getting behind the meaning.

a reply to: TDDAgain

I didnt try to strike up a conversation in random places but when I was trying to understand some of the history in a place I was standing, battle fields, camps, defensive lines etc.

Older gentleman whos father was in the german army during ww2 took some of us around Dachau and explained everything that went on from pre-war till the camps liberation, and said that the younger generation was starting to take the same approach to the subject as the germans that lived near Dachau during the war. (obviously in his opinion)

I was horrified to see the german stories of the Dresden fire bombing, but glad to know the whole story rather than the glossed over version in our history books.

Any educated person should not be afraid of discussing the good and the bad of history, unfortunately the state of education in many parts of the world is a mess, forced ignorance never leads to good things in my opinion.

Thanks for your opinion, TDDAgain.

To all forum members: The attack on Pearl Harbor was code named Operation Z during its preparation phase, do you think it’s just a coincidence? Many operations of the Axis were code named Z, a coincidence?

The nazi resistance plans against the Allies had a flag with a Z (en.wikipedia.org...). Another coincidence?

No, in my opinion they aren’t coincidences. They put big Z in their military vehicles because they are part of the Axis.

And the reference to World War Z is a symbolic announcement of the beginning of WW3.

a reply to: Irishhaf

I was in Dachau too, it's something many schools do with 8-10 classes. The fire bombings of Dresden, I am only typing this to you because the train where my grandmother on the father side of the family was sitting in as a baby, got stopped because of track damage in the middle of the night.

A few hours later the Dresden fire bombings happened. If that train would have arrived, full of women and children, most would be dead and me not existing. They came from the Warszawa by train, civilians, some even victims. I was born in former DDR in Dresden, but my parents fled before the wall came down with me as a toddler, only two years old. I always refer to being Bavarian because I grew up here and my family is from the region originally though.

Any educated person should not be afraid of discussing the good and the bad of history, unfortunately the state of education in many parts of the world is a mess, forced ignorance never leads to good things in my opinion.

It's really not about that. You can bet on most Germans being extensive schooled on WW2, especially my generation X and Y. It's just not something most have energy talking about. It's history, none of us were there, it has to be remembered but understand we have better things to do and on our minds. For a foreigner it might be an interesting topic, WW2, because you are here and want to know our history. That's applaudable. But frankly, many Germans are fed up with it.

It's been 70+ years. The topic is dead for Germans, we are overstimulated. And then a foreigner approaches and asks questions, it's really like "Is that all we are for you?". The German culture isn't understood in the rest of the world either.

Many stereotypes are correct but only a few understand why many Germans are like that. Germans are not really obedient. We are overall, disciplined and hard working, precise and tidy. This leads to a mindset that prefers rules, because that's how things run best. And naturally you adhere to these rules. That's IMHO the reason why so many German ancestors did great things in the world.

We just should watch better WHO makes the rules. We are so used to trusting the state but the times for trust are long over.

a reply to: MarxistDebunker

One of the most popular Z mission today was done by US special Green Beret forces attaching mines to Japans vessels.

Your conclusion about Putin labeling himself with a Z because NAZI liked that letter for their operations, makes no sense at all. If at all, it feels like a huge stretch to somehow comfort your preexisting opinion.

a reply to: TDDAgain

I can understand that the trend the last few years is to blame America for everything and anything bad in the world.

Some of it is our fault a lot isn't, doesn't stop the accusations I probably didn't take that into account enough when I lived in Germany.

thanks for your perspective.

a reply to: Irishhaf
Well it a lot of the stuff your government did in the last twenty years was based on lies. People start to understand, thanks to Hollywood but still asking myself why CIA allows it... that the CIA is doing a lot of nefarious things. It's an open secret.

US strives to have bases all over the world. US loves to annex countries and plant puppets but I don't want to blame the US or Government on it completely, because there are higher forces at work. Like IMF and similar. USA is just the biggest club they have and it runs on war, MIC needs it.

No offense though, I love the USA for it's huge size, nature and cultures in the different states and have been planning a trip for a while now, with some setbacks. I don't think it's in the US citizens interest to fight all these wars. In a way it's a bit similar to today Germany. Even if it isn't trust into the government directly, most lay their trust on the unvisible inner workings. Like, "well then I guess this war is necessary they won't say it if it wasn't so".

It's exactly how I see the US media playing it now. And it was tried in Germany but the backlash was huge, understandably with our history, the state our military is in and the fact that we are, thanks to Schröder and Merkel, dependent on Russian gas.

And the best is, under Merkel, we sold the biggest German gas storage tank to Gazprom. And now Ukraine is offering their underground storage network to Europe. Traitors everywhere.

a reply to: TDDAgain