Seriously conflicting info on the need for more boosters

I heard on a radio talk show yesterday that the CDC and Lord Faucci were still recommending more boosters, "but not necessarily for everyone". But they didn't say who, in their opinions, might not need more shots! Then they played a clip of Biden babbling a word salad about how "we" saved "countless millions of people." Doing an online search, I found what was practically a transcript of the show, this piece, from People magazine of all places.

Of course, they had to throw in a plug for Pfizer, who is promising a vax for omicron within the next couple weeks, and of course, the promise of never-ending new vaxxes and boosters. This news piece was a total checklist of the govt\Faucci agenda. It closed with two horrific scare-inducing warnings that "A recent report from the Centers for Disease Control showed that unvaccinated people in the U.S. were 53 times more likely to die of COVID-19 compared to those who are vaccinated and boosted".

Finally, to induce even more fear, they're saying that the "new normal" (yes, they actually used that stupid phrase) will be unreliable tests, showing false positives, and since the tests don't work, you NEED the vax as "it's the only way to be sure".


★★ Now here's the funny part ★★
I just heard this piece on the same talk show!

Got a Covid Booster? You Probably Won’t Need Another for a Long Time

a reply to: ColeYounger

and to this day, not a fugging peep about natrual immunity, as if it doesn't exist. Only vaccines.

a reply to: ColeYounger


As I wrote to update my other thread: Based I what I am reading its all about the World Economic Forum and even Putin marches to their drums

UPDATE:

So my wife was saying that she wasn't getting he Covid-19 booster. So she gets up this morning and has a round bulge on her throat under her skin about the size of a nickle. So I don't know why but I asked her whether she got the booster. She said yes so I asked when and she said Christmas Eve at work. Shes 5' 2" and I guess 120 pounds

Shes the prodigy of an entire card carrying Democrat family. She swore to me she would never get a booster. Prior to this lump she had the flu for almost two weeks. Now this?

She not deformed in any way, no smokes, no drugs, no scars and has maintained her figure as in NO cheese in the legs.

So I got my 2nd jab on 15Sept21 and collapsed 05Nov21. That's 52 days

So she got the Booster on 24Dec21 and lump on 21Feb22. That's 59 days.

Boo

a reply to: ColeYounger

From the article that you have linked in your OP

“We’re starting to see now diminishing returns on the number of additional doses,” said John Wherry, director of the Institute for immunology at the University of Pennsylvania. Although people over 65 or at high risk of illness may benefit from a fourth vaccine dose, it may be unnecessary for most people, he added.

Federal health officials including Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the Biden administration’s top Covid adviser, have also said that they are unlikely to recommend a fourth dose before the fall.

edit on 21 2 2022 by tamusan because: (no reason given)

Fifty three times more likely of dying from covid if unvaccinated? Maybe I died from the two times I got it and had to jump into a different reality when I had it. I should have gone through at least nine lives already, I guess humans have more lives than cats do.

Put a new label on the old vaccine and claim it covers Omicron. Nobody will ever know the difference, and few will suspect a thing.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ColeYounger

and to this day, not a fugging peep about natrual immunity, as if it doesn't exist. Only vaccines.

Yes, not a word about natural immunity. Crickets.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ColeYounger

and to this day, not a fugging peep about natrual immunity, as if it doesn't exist. Only vaccines.

That's actually not technically true;

If you want to travel to England, for example, and can prove you have natural immunity, sorry but that's just not good enough to get in.

Proof of recovery from previous infection with COVID-19 - also known as natural immunity - will not be accepted as an alternative to proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test

Source. This was the plan all along. I recall early in 2020 Bill Gates (of hell) saying "we don't want people to develop antibodies ..... bla bla bla" and over a period of looking a bit beyond that it became clear that the plan was to try and convince people that they did not have a natural immune system and that the only way forward was to hire an immune system by way on repeated injections.

Nah, no way I thought to myself, there s no way in the world that people could actually be that #ing stupid and gullible ......

a reply to: ColeYounger

Yes it's so much preferable for lots of people to die (how many is it now in the US, and around the world?), than to do anything that might prevent that.

The 'win' of freedums:

a reply to: myselfaswell

I was speaking of the United States, where Lord Fauci hails from.
We have different science here.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ColeYounger

Yes it's so much preferable for lots of people to die (how many is it now in the US?), than to do anything that might prevent that.

do you want to know how many died FROM Covid, or WITH Covid? They are still working on those numbers, feverishly.

a reply to: network dude

We have different science here.

Yes, who would have thought that the evolution of science would sprout so many varieties. In Australia the predominant variety here is "Television".

Conflicting information is the whole point.
Watching the Stockholm syndrome play out is wild.

nato paper

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ColeYounger

Yes it's so much preferable for lots of people to die (how many is it now in the US?), than to do anything that might prevent that.

My OP was about the conflicting information that's circulating. Contrary to your comment, I don't wish any ill will, much less death upon anybody. As the last couple years have proven, we can't trust the govt, or Fauci, or the media, or Pfizer, or Bill Gates. We're lied to 24\7 by these people. It's not debatable. Question "the science" and you're branded a heretic.

How much more likely are you to die if you're unvaccinated?

20 Times?

97 Times?

14 Times?

3 Times?

a reply to: ColeYounger

Well in the UK Boris is puhing forward with the "Living With Covid" plan, thank god lets put this sh~t behind us at last

COVID-19 RESPONSE: LIVING WITH COVID-19

All to start on April 1st....no joke

Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves



Hopefully more Countries will follow suit

edit

Covid: England ending isolation laws and mass free testing

From Thursday 24 February:
People who test positive for Covid will no longer be legally required to self-isolate
But they will still be advised to stay at home and avoid contact with others for at least five full days
Routine contact tracing will end, so fully-vaccinated close contacts and those under 18 will no longer be legally required to test daily for seven days The £500 self-isolation support payment for people on low incomes who test positive for Covid will no longer be available
Covid provisions for increased statutory sick pay will apply for a further month

From 1 April:
Free mass symptomatic and asymptomatic testing for the general public will end, and will instead be targeted towards the most vulnerable
People with Covid symptoms will be asked to exercise personal responsibility when deciding whether to stay at home - until then they are still advised to do so
Current government guidance on Covid passports will end and it will no longer recommend venues use the NHS Covid pass

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: ColeYounger

From the article that you have linked in your OP

“We’re starting to see now diminishing returns on the number of additional doses,” said John Wherry, director of the Institute for immunology at the University of Pennsylvania. Although people over 65 or at high risk of illness may benefit from a fourth vaccine dose, it may be unnecessary for most people, he added.

Federal health officials including Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the Biden administration’s top Covid adviser, have also said that they are unlikely to recommend a fourth dose before the fall.

But on the radio show I was talking about, those points weren't mentioned at all. They didn't say who might be exempt from the "needed boosters", and they promoted Pfizer's upcoming Omicron vax, coming soon. They didn't say anything about waiting till fall.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ColeYounger

Yes it's so much preferable for lots of people to die (how many is it now in the US?), than to do anything that might prevent that.

do you want to know how many died FROM Covid, or WITH Covid? They are still working on those numbers, feverishly.

In firearm fatalities, how many died from being shot, compared to how many died from other stuff while they happened to be being shot?



Yeah there are no doubt a few miscategorized deaths. Big whoop, they aren't in the majority.

People from every country around the world are dying from COVID-19. Undoubtedly. No question.

The more you deny the obvious, the sillier you look.

originally posted by: ColeYounger

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ColeYounger

Yes it's so much preferable for lots of people to die (how many is it now in the US?), than to do anything that might prevent that.

My OP was about the conflicting information that's circulating. Contrary to your comment, I don't wish any ill will, much less death upon anybody. As the last couple years have proven, we can't trust the govt, or Fauci, or the media, or Pfizer, or Bill Gates. We're lied to 24\7 by these people. It's not debatable. Question "the science" and you're branded a heretic.

How much more likely are you to die if you're unvaccinated?

20 Times?

97 Times?

14 Times?

3 Times?

So, when a deadly disease is epidemic, everyone should die at the same rate and and ratios, and no one survives, and no-one is asymptomatic, and there are no variations in disease severity or progression?

originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: ColeYounger


As I wrote to update my other thread: Based I what I am reading its all about the World Economic Forum and even Putin marches to their drums

UPDATE:

So my wife was saying that she wasn't getting he Covid-19 booster. So she gets up this morning and has a round bulge on her throat under her skin about the size of a nickle. So I don't know why but I asked her whether she got the booster. She said yes so I asked when and she said Christmas Eve at work. Shes 5' 2" and I guess 120 pounds

Shes the prodigy of an entire card carrying Democrat family. She swore to me she would never get a booster. Prior to this lump she had the flu for almost two weeks. Now this?

She not deformed in any way, no smokes, no drugs, no scars and has maintained her figure as in NO cheese in the legs.

So I got my 2nd jab on 15Sept21 and collapsed 05Nov21. That's 52 days

So she got the Booster on 24Dec21 and lump on 21Feb22. That's 59 days.

Boo

You probably don't realize this, but viral infections like the flu can cause swelling of the lymph nodes on the neck. Since she had the flu two weeks ago and the vaccination shot two months ago, it's much more likely that the lump is related to the flu.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: ColeYounger

Yes it's so much preferable for lots of people to die (how many is it now in the US?), than to do anything that might prevent that.

do you want to know how many died FROM Covid, or WITH Covid? They are still working on those numbers, feverishly.

In firearm fatalities, how many died from being shot, compared to how many died from other stuff while they happened to be being shot?

Yeah there are no doubt a few miscategorized deaths. Big whoop, they aren't in the majority.

People from every country around the world are dying from COVID-19. Undoubtedly. No question.

The more you deny the obvious, the sillier you look.

Bad argument using guns.

If you believe “with vs from” is negligible, post your stats you are quoting.

IMHO, if you had Covid and died from a gun shot, they labeled it a Covid death on your death certificate. Yes, I believe this happened. YesI believe this “mistake” happened more often than we realize. I doubt I will ever be able to prove it. With the bad press and bad politics around Covid, I find it really easy to believe.