Vladimir Putin giving Address the Russian nation now

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

What, you want them to give their addresses out?

Righto.

I give up again. OK, America has no problem at all with Neo Nazis. None at all. Ever.

Happy now?

Carry on regardless.

No addresses, but SOME kind of indication that they actually exist in numbers anywhere near the intentionally false accusations made by you and bbc.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

"Intentionally false" accusations?

Stop Lying!

Here's some more for you to hand wave away with your tedious "LIES" mantra:

newrepublic.com...

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I think a big part of the problem is that you keep falling for the labels put on people.

These guys are neo-nazis.
Waco was a militant cult in a military style compound.
Randy Weaver was an anti-government militia member.

In reality
These guys are largely unknown. And white pride is neither nazi nor militant.
Waco was a bunch of people living in a commune who were constantly harassed by law enforcement.
Randy Weaver was a man who wanted to live off-grid after becoming disillusioned with society.

These labels are more dangerous than these people could ever be. Mainly because other people just blindly believe them for whatever reason.

In the 1690's people in Salem, Massachusetts turned on their own. People they knew and lived with all their lives. All because a rumor was started that there were witches living among them. When ordered to do so, the townsfolk determined who the witches were and dutifully burned them at the stake. Were those poor victims actually witches? Of course not. But the rumor said they were and TPTB said they had to be eliminated or they would all suffer. So these people turned on their own and savagely burned them alive. All because of a label...

a reply to: Vroomfondel

The 1690's?!!!!

OK, substitute "Neo Nazis" for "Far Right Extremists". Not really interested in labels, just reality.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

The New Republic? Geez Carpy, the faster the lib media shovels the faster you gobble it up. They will say whatever gets your eyeballs.

To paraphrase a young Billy Bragg:

They'd rather you believe in Neo-Nazi crime capers
Because in the war of circulation it sells newspapers

a reply to: Freeborn

Will Putin can always adopt the Canadian model of freedom - agree with the government or get all your bank accounts frozen and your name doxxed to the court of liberal nut jobs.

Perhaps he'll act like the UN Peacekeepers stay until the right leader is elected to follow the right narrative.

a reply to: underpass61

You do realise that Billy Bragg is and always has been a bit of a "leftie"?


en.m.wikipedia.org...#:~:text=Bragg%20has%20been%20an%20opponent,British%20National%20Party%20(BNP).

He's always been very much against the right and even more against the far right, ffs?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Of course I know that. He's a great songsmith and the original punk troubadour, I don't have to agree with his viewpoint all of the time to enjoy his music. His songs help me understand the lefty mindset, plus they rock.

a reply to: underpass61

Yes. Done well for a leftie, what with having a net worth of 20 mil. What we call a Champagne Socialist, allegedly:

www.wiki.ng...

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Vroomfondel

The 1690's?!!!!

OK, substitute "Neo Nazis" for "Far Right Extremists". Not really interested in labels, just reality.

According to all democrat msm, YOU are a 'far right extremist'.

All of us are.

Labels DO matter.

Or democrats wouldn't have spent the past 15 years attempting to manipulating them.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2


Stop repeating democrat lies.

This one is especially dumb.

The U.S. military is the LAST place you will find any 'white supremacy', regardless of your definition of the term.

Absurd.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Didn't bother reading my source, then?

"Stop repeating democrat lies"?

That rings a bell. Again. Like a ghostly echo from the recent past.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: 1947boomer
a reply to: gortex

Yes. The breakaway provinces will now start "cleansing" their territory of anyone sympathetic to the West. By "cleansing", of course I mean killing. Russian troops will be invited in by the now independent republics. If Ukraine tries to intervene militarily to stop the slaughter, they will be defeated by the superior Russian forces. If they don't, Russian occupation of the republics will be a fait accompli.

So sanctions aren't gonna stop him, so do you want to send American troops? NATO troops?

Do you think Putin was surprised there would be sanctions?.

No, I think he knew there would be sanctions, he didn't care

Ive mentioned it elsewhere I m thinking it's all been arraigned. Once he met Macron, I think he had a good idea if just goes after those areas with the Russian Separatists he was going to get nothing but sanctions.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Didn't bother reading my source, then?

"Stop repeating democrat lies"?

That rings a bell. Again. Like a ghostly echo from the recent past.

I still don't know what you are going on about, are you having some kind of seizure?

The U.S. military is the LAST place you will find any 'white supremacy'

The U.S. military is the FIRST place many people experience 'white supremacy' and racism in general. By the militaries very nature it collects people from ALL walks of life from all over the country. And just like in civilian society people clique up according to their beliefs and backgrounds..Many a Neo nazi, former gang members, hillbillies, city people..everybody in the US armed forces..'Good Old Boy Network' ring a bell?

The military is just a mirror of what we are as a nation.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Vroomfondel

The 1690's?!!!!

OK, substitute "Neo Nazis" for "Far Right Extremists". Not really interested in labels, just reality.

Your proof that you are not interested in labels is replacing one label with another.

Got it.

If you are only interested in reality, why not call them: a large group of people who are fed up with government overreach, tyrannical responses to non-threatening issues, and freedom of speech, who also happen to be mostly white.

Is that real enough? Or is it too real because it takes away your talking points?

a reply to: Vroomfondel

Well, if you want to sanitise the far right, OK, go ahead, if that's your reality.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

They don't need to be sanitized, we just need to wipe off the muck the left keeps throwing at them.

The left use words like nazi, racist, bigot, warmonger, etc, at the drop of a hat regardless of the topic or venue. Its the go-to response to anything. Someone challenges your opinion? Call them a nazi racist. Make them defend themselves against that instead of attacking your flawed perspective. Its standard operating procedure for democrats.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

I wouldn't know. I'm not a Democrat.

The examples I posted were Neo Nazis or whatever, by any objective standard.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Vroomfondel

I wouldn't know. I'm not a Democrat.

The examples I posted were Neo Nazis or whatever, by any objective standard.

Neo-Nazi groups are not a strong presence in my country. They are a fringe, poorly organized bunch of social rejects judged correctly as WRONG by the vast majority of my fellow Americans regardless of political persuasion. Why do you keep pushing the " Neo- Nazism in America" mantra. Perhaps it is because you secretly admire them? I doubt that. More like, you are a bomb thrower that gets most of their info through media sound bites. You are educated but not terribly bright. And I think, from what I have seen of you, you are a divider with no real solutions. Probably old and bitter.