The Anunnaki and the Matrix of Lies. The Missing Links.

Not that Sumerian myths didn't have sacred trees.
Here's a drawing from a cylinder seal that IS Sumerian. Sacred tree at left, seated god might be Ea.
The weird rectangular thing in the center is a winged temple, which is often seen on the back of the bull of heaven. Since you're such a thorough researcher, maybe you should look into that and see if it might just be the origin of the winged disc from later cultures (shown in your Assyrian seal.)


Harte

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Hanslune

If you say so, you keep showing one Mesopotamian cylinder seal image why so? This is a cylinder seal made in first millennium (circa 700 BCE) and shows the tree of life - why is that important to you?

Cuneiform transitioned from a pictograph language to a sound based language over the 3000 years it was used. For a explanation of this please watch the following video.

Writing seems to have been invented in the late fourth millennium BC in Mesopotamia in the form of wedge-shaped marks pressed into soft clay with a reed stylus: the script known as cuneiform. Through his work on this ancient language, Irving Finkel, has uncovered amazing secrets from over five thousand years ago, including the story behind Noah’s ark.

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Once you understand this you can see the progression of the mindset. Its not the "Tree of Life" I'm interested in, its the depiction of "Heaven" above it.

You will note a Crescent Moon, a Pyramid, a sphere, what appears to be a wooden boat, and 3 figures in it. This is the oldest depiction of this "Realm".

The next youngest depiction changes this realm into a Sphere with wings with one king in it. It also has writing along the top.

The youngest depiction has now finalized this region into a sphere with wings and a single king inside it. This would be the origins of the Phrase "Man in the Moon".

The original, more complicated pictograph was simplified over the years and later depictions removed some of the more revealing features.

It strikes me, someone is telling us the original gods heavenly abode, was actually, our moon. And originally there were at least 3 figures worthy of praise that after some time, was now one.

This train of thought, I believe, would explain the existence of a ancient Moon worship, Moon god.

In mythology, a lunar deity is a god or goddess of the Moon, sometimes as a personification. These deities can have a variety of functions and traditions depending upon the culture, but they are often related. Some form of moon worship can be found in most ancient religions.

en.wikipedia.org...

moon worship
moon worship. Although the moon has not had great prominence in the history of religion, the worship of it has been known since earliest recorded time—in the oldest literatures of Egypt, Babylonia, India, and China—and still exists today in various parts of the world, particularly among certain African and Native American groups. Moon worship is founded on the belief that the phases of the moon and the growth and decline of plant, animal, and human life are related. In some societies food was laid out at night to absorb the rays of the moon, which were thought to have power to cure disease and prolong life. Among the Baganda of central Africa it was customary for a mother to bathe her newborn child by the light of the first full moon. The moon was frequently equated with wisdom and justice, as in the worship of the Egyptian god Thoth and the Mesopotamian god Sin. In general, however, the moon has been the basis for many amorous legends and some superstitions (madmen were once considered to be moonstruck, hence the term lunatic) and is particularly important in the practice of astrology.

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Again, the Masons tell us.

There is no more spectacular reminder of our Masonic historical and ritualistic heritage than the moon at its height of fullness. While astronomers view the moon with the analytical eye of science, the moon has been a focal point for cultures around the world throughout history and has inspired music, poetry and religion alike. However, for Masons, and particularly Vermont Masons, the moon has not just been a symbolic light in our ritualistic teaching but also a literal light to our brethren of long ago. It thus behooves us to take a moment to remember the moon and its long association with the Craft and its origins.

THE MOON IN MASONIC HISTORY

So, certainly, if there ever were to be men going to the moon, you would expect those moon worshipers, to be the first, to find out first hand, the truth of the moon.

And guess what? They were!

Yes, astronaut Buzz Aldrin is a Freemason.

He was initiated into Freemasonry at Oak Park Lodge No. 864 in Alabama and raised at Lawrence N. Greenleaf Lodge, No. 169 in Colorado.

He is also a member of the York Rite and Arabia Shrine Temple of Houston.

The Masonic Flag That Went To The Moon

You once said that I said the Masons rule the world, which I did not say. But correct none the less. The Masons do not rule the world. They, as a whole are quite ignorant of the true workings of this Matrix. They are allowed to believe anything they like, as long as they follow the guidelines, that are set out by the Royal bloodlines of those ancient gods. They are some of the most intelligent people on earth, who have been fed Hoodwinking BS, by their elite and wealthy owners, to be nothing more, than smart monkeys. If they ran the world, which they don't, they would have already known the truth about the Celestial Chariot, we call the Moon. They are nothing but high level pawns. Go stand on your checkerboard. The gods, laugh at your ignorance!

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In the Future all Gaslighting, diversionary Narcissist's will be "Gray Rocked". So, expect to be ignored!

The winged disk you are calling "heaven" appears to have originated in Egypt, in the Old Kingdom. At least, that's the oldest version of it ever found. There might be older ones somewhere.

Consider that the iconography (including the winged temple I showed you BTW) might have come from viewing an eclipse.


eclipsology.blogspot.com... ancient.html

Harte

The moon was frequently equated with wisdom and justice, as in the worship of the Egyptian god Thoth and the Mesopotamian god Sin. In general, however, the moon has been the basis for many amorous legends and some superstitions (madmen were once considered to be moonstruck, hence the term lunatic) and is particularly important in the practice of astrology. Many ancient peoples regarded the Moon as the chief of the two luminaries. “The sun was of smaller importance than the moon in the eyes of the Babylonian astrologers.”

The Assyrians and the Chaldeans referred to the time of the Moon-god as the oldest period in the memory of the people: before other planetary gods came to dominate the world ages, the Moon was the supreme deity. Such references are found in the inscriptions of Sargon II (ca. -720)(2) and Nabonidus (ca. -550).(3) The Babylonian Sin—the Moon—was a very ancient deity: Mount Sinai owes its name to Sin.

The Moon, appearing as a body larger than the Sun, was endowed by the imagination of the peoples with a masculine role, while the Sun was assigned a feminine role. Many languages reserved a masculine name for the Moon.(4) It was probably when the Moon was removed to a greater distance from the earth and became smaller to observers on the earth, that another name, usually feminine, came to designate the Moon in most languages.

RELIGIONS AND CULTURES OF MOON WORSHIP

Moon worship has been practiced in Arabia since 2000 BC. The crescent moon is the most common symbol of this pagan moon worship as far back as 2000 BC.
In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.
This Hubal was a moon god.
One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad. This may in fact be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam atop of every mosque throughout the world:

Hubal and Allah the Moon God?


The above establishes that the Moon was the original abode of the gods. And worship of it predates any sun disk theories.

And again from the above materials one can assume the Moon was larger in the sky than the Sun, and at some point moved away to where we find it today. Hence, the addition of "Wings" to the Moon Disk, after it was moved. To support this movement compare the size of the "Heaven"/Moon from the oldest to the size of the youngest representation.

Large, oldest.



Small, youngest.



So the moon was much closer to the earth than we find today, but when? My guess would be "Pre Great Flood". My best guess was that the great flood and the African Humid Periods end, in aprox 3550bc.

Given that date, Moon Worship would be the oldest religion, on earth. And I might add, the longest running religion at over, at least, 3000 years.....

And there would be little doubt that this religion was also practiced in old Egypt, at the very least.

You are just hopeless.
Enjoy yourself.

Harte

a reply to: All Seeing Eye

How did they move the vast quantities of water from Tiamat to Earth?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: All Seeing Eye

How did they move the vast quantities of water from Tiamat to Earth?

On page 7 I give a very crude, possible description as to the mechanization that might allow the moon to transfer water.

The Moon has a rough diameter of 3474.8 km, or 2159.141 Miles. It has a uneven crust.

The crust ranges from 38 miles (60 km) on the near side to 63 miles (100 km) on the far side.

The Crust & Interior of the Moon

So if we split the difference we would get a thickness of a average of 50 miles thick. Deduct this from the Diameter of 2159.141 will give you the average of a inside diameter of 2150 +-. Which would give you a volume of roughly V = 5,203,720,980 yd3 Slightly over 5 Billion cubic yards, of water, if, NASA is correct in saying the moon might be hollow.

This amount as massive as it is would not account for all the water on earth at the present time. It would have required many "drops" of water to account for. But if you study the historical record of global oxygen content, this is actually is reflected, starting with a starting date hinged to the age of the ocean beds. It is commonly acknowledged to be roughly 70 million years ago, but now it has been shown that the dating processes are flawed. This date also coincides with the extinction event that killed out the Dinosaurs. It appears as though their demise was not the act of a meteorite, but of drowning. It is also very possible that the Earth in those days was much smaller than today (Expanding Earth). So the devastating impact of 5 billion Sq yards of water in any one area, would have been massive.

Not only Tiamat, but also the waters that were on Mars were brought here to again, terraform Earth into a water world. Which Technically, we are.

There is some possibilities that some amounts of water arrived here free floating, along with other debris from the broken up planet, Tiamat (The Sky is Falling).

To answer your question directly, inside the moon. As to whether the moon is self propelled, or towed, I haven't a clue.

a reply to: All Seeing Eye

Well mate at least you offered up a half-decent response to my conundrum.

Even if it is still somewhat full of water, pun intended.

The Moon is interesting all the same given its size compared to our Earth, distance, and fact that our Moon and the Earth are tidally locked.

originally posted by: Harte
You are just hopeless.
Enjoy yourself.

Harte

What your visit to fantasy land was not enjoyable?

As we continue our exploration into the history and effects of our Earth’s Moon, we discover the possibility that there may be much more to our reality than we’re lead to believe, and that the Moon may play an instrumental role in holding us in states where violence and aggression are normal… and the negativity which disempowers us, empowers something else.
Would you take the red pill? If so, join us as we explore what appears to be a real-life Matrix – and the different concepts that show the surprising role the Moon may play in keeping it all in place.

Written & Narrated by E. Firestone

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Just a note. Any page that includes material from Urantia is going to be something that's not science but is "channeled." You need a better resource page if you want to argue this point.

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

So the moon was much closer to the earth than we find today, but when?

Physics provides the answer... and the question arises "what do you mean by 'much closer'? Technically the Moon was closer to the Earth yesterday, since it is constantly moving away.

Planets and stars are not shuffled around randomly by deities. We have over 6,000 years of direct written observation (and older that that if you count solstice markers) that are the foundation of our modern science of astronomy. During the Cretaceous it was 2,000 miles closer -- however, it wouldn't actually appear to be noticeably larger.

My guess would be "Pre Great Flood". My best guess was that the great flood and the African Humid Periods end, in aprox 3550bc.

* there was no "great flood"
* in 3500 BC, the Moon was 24700 CENTIMETERS closer -- which translates to 9724.40945 inches. Divide by 12 and you get 810 feet closer to the Earth. That's less than a quarter mile.

Given that date, Moon Worship would be the oldest religion, on earth. And I might add, the longest running religion at over, at least, 3000 years.....

And that'd be a "nope." Whatever they worshiped back then has changed over time.

And there would be little doubt that this religion was also practiced in old Egypt, at the very least.

Which would also be a "nope", according to the evidence from predynastic Egypt.

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
Which would give you a volume of roughly V = 5,203,720,980 yd3 Slightly over 5 Billion cubic yards, of water, if, NASA is correct in saying the moon might be hollow.

NASA says the Moon is solid. They do not even remotely believe it is hollow

This amount as massive as it is would not account for all the water on earth at the present time. It would have required many "drops" of water to account for. But if you study the historical record of global oxygen content, this is actually is reflected, starting with a starting date hinged to the age of the ocean beds.

It's about 5 billion years ago (For fans of video rather than text, here's a web page with an embedded video that explains what we know and how we know it))

And there was oxygen long before the late Cretaceous. Otherwise we wouldn't have had plants or dinosaurs or anything else and our blood and body chemistry would be quite different.

It is commonly acknowledged to be roughly 70 million years ago, but now it has been shown that the dating processes are flawed. This date also coincides with the extinction event that killed out the Dinosaurs. It appears as though their demise was not the act of a meteorite, but of drowning.

No.

I've worked in a paleo lab doing fossil prep. If they'd all drowned, the strata where they were found would actually show this. It does not.

It is also very possible that the Earth in those days was much smaller than today (Expanding Earth). So the devastating impact of 5 billion Sq yards of water in any one area, would have been massive.

Excuse my bluntness here, but "expanding Earth" has to be one of the stupidest ideas ever. I love Neal Adam's work as a cartoonist. I benefitted from his campaign to return rights to artists. But as a science interpreter... he very clearly was drawing in his textbooks during science class and not paying attention. He did not understand science, astronomy, geology, or physics.

Not only Tiamat, but also the waters that were on Mars were brought here to again, terraform Earth into a water world. Which Technically, we are.

There is some possibilities that some amounts of water arrived here free floating, along with other debris from the broken up planet, Tiamat (The Sky is Falling).

To answer your question directly, inside the moon. As to whether the moon is self propelled, or towed, I haven't a clue.

It came from the solar nebula: earthsky.org...

Not from Mars, Jupiter, or any other planet. Theia is the name of the hypothetical planet that crashed into Earth

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
Which would give you a volume of roughly V = 5,203,720,980 yd3 Slightly over 5 Billion cubic yards, of water, if, NASA is correct in saying the moon might be hollow.

NASA says the Moon is solid. They do not even remotely believe it is hollow

Yeah that comes from a deliberate misinterpretation of a comment about what a sensor recorded when they crashed a rocket into the moon.

""The vibrations from these two impacts lasted longer than scientists expected, far longer than any equivalent vibrations last on Earth. It was almost as if the Moon was ringing like a bell. This strange result forced scientists to think differently about the Moon and its composition."" The take them saying it rang like a bell, and since bells are hollow that the moon is hollow - crazy yes but that is what fringe does - makes up weird stuff!

www.popsci.com...

It all comes down to water. There’s moisture in the materials that makes up our planet, expanding their structure. As energy from an earthquake moves through our planet, that damp material acts like a sponge, absorbing the energy of the waves and ultimately deadening their effects. But the Moon is dry, cool, and rigid, more like a solid rock than a sponge. So even if a moonquake is less intense, there’s nothing to deaden the vibrations. They just go back and forth through the body until the solid stone eventually stops them. The “ringing bell” is the shock waves reverberating through that stone.

One of sillier aspects.

Oh, the Earth IS getting bigger about 100 metric tons of dust and debris enters the atmosphere each day. So, 36,000+ tons a year which is so insignificant it won't show up on my calculator. since the earth weighs in at 5.972 × 10^24 kg

astronomy.com...

a reply to: Byrd

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Byrd

...or more possibly, plausibly and probably, that part of you that gives you resistance to being gullible was pummeled to death by your over active imagination....

a reply to: Hanslune

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Hanslune

It's a movie based on an imaginary idea. You do know that right?

a reply to: Hanslune

Oh yes, the movie was completely fiction. Fascinating how Life inmates art. Or maybe how, Art, imitates life.



Oh, look what's coming next

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

Why don't you simply decide NOT to be a narcissistist then? Stop being one then bang, problem solved!

One might never think it but, there is a organization that supports Narcissism, as long as it supports their covert agenda. The covert agenda to keep mankind, enslave.







Do I think I'm Infallible? No, I realize I have all the faults of a human being. I'm right sometime and I'm wrong sometimes. I loose my temper sometimes, and can be forgiving in others. I fall down, and so far have gotten up every time.

So, why does this secrecy group of elitist hide the core truth? They do not want you to realize there is a place you can go to escape all their deceptions, lies, wars, torture. A place where there are no seasons only 74 deg year round with a mild sun, that never sets. There are no wars and people actually care about one another. A place where dreams can be fulfilled, and shared.

But it isn't for every one as many today are misguided into the way they view the world and its history. They are under the mind control of the "Matrix of Lies".

Genesis 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

The time draws near.