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originally posted by: teraform
Love threads like this!!
In this article I’m will prove to you conclusively from the words and from the mouth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ himself, that the book of Enoch is scripture.
The history of King James' role in the formation of Freemasonry is mandatory reading in the Hiram Key book of Masonic scrolls attempting to link Christ with the Pharaohs.
Freemasonry, in its present form, came into being through the Lodge system, established under the auspices of King James VI of Scotland, (later King James I of England), the only son of Roman Catholic Mary Queen of Scots. At the age of 37, two years after becoming a Mason, James became the first Stuart king of England and immediately began to persecute the Puritans, rejecting their petition to reform the Church of England along biblical lines.
James was initiated into Freemasonry, into the Lodge of Scoon and Perth in 1601, at the age of 35. Fifteen years after taking active control of Scotland and five years before becoming English monarch, he ordered that the Masonic structure be given leadership and organisation. He made a senior Mason, named William Schaw, his General Warden of the Craft, and instructed Schaw to revamp the entire structure of Freemasonry into what it became today. Schaw commenced this project on 28th December 1598, on the orders of James.
To this day, the 1611 edition of the King James Bible remains the Freemason Bible and is the edition conventionally used in secret Masonic temple rituals.
And God spake all these words, saying,
2I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
The Book of Enoch is which tells the story of the Fallen Angels called the Nephilim or the Anunnaki is attributed to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah.
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
Latest thinking on the Octopus. It isn't from "Here" folks..
The octopus is an unusual animal to find in the ocean. However, some experts believe that these aliens are in fact from another planet. According to Godfrey-Smith, the “they act cleverly, they do all these creative, inventive things — that line of thinking doesn’t settle matters, by any stretch,” A “mystery aspect” is still present. Peter Godfrey-Smith is an Australian philosopher who was recently recruited to the Harvard faculty as a professorship in the department of philosophy.
How did they get here? Caught a ride on their Overlords Celestial Chariot, I would guess.
Not established by your article.
Unfortunately for a great idea their DNA ties them to having evolved on Earth
Octopuses are aliens — or, at least, so vastly different in their genetic makeup that they might as well be considered out of this world. Scientists recently sequenced the first genome in the Octopus Genome Project, a huge undertaking to map out the entire DNA structure of the complex cephalopod. What they found was simply incredible.
Octopuses have 33,000 genes, roughly 10,000 more than a human. This alone sets it apart from any other invertebrate in the world. They are also uncannily clever, with the ability to open jars, solve puzzles, and even use tools. It’s no wonder that some might think this creature is from another planet. In uncovering the sequence, scientists found that octopuses have a similar set of genes to those found in humans, that make up a neural network in their brains, which accounts for their quick ability to adapt and learn. We also share a large brain, closed circulatory system, and eyes with an iris, retina, and lens. All of these independently developed in another species vastly different from our own mammal origins.
Another focus of the study was looking at the octopus’ ability to camouflage itself in the blink of an eye. Now, with the sequence coded out, researchers can study exactly how the octopus can change its skin within milliseconds. If unraveled, this could lead to major breakthroughs both in neuroscience and engineering, in terms of creating garments and structures that could have instant camouflage ability.
A huge discovery was the ability of the octopus to improve on its own genetic code. This is common in humans and other animals, but the ability at which the octopus can edit its own RNA is pretty wild — they are able to adapt their nerves in order to withstand the extreme cold of the deep ocean. The scientists also took a long look at the genes that make up the octopus’ suckers. It was discovered that part of the sucker function allowed for the animal to taste, in addition to catching its dinner.
In other words, they did not, nor do they, evolve.
Heavy reliance on RNA editing, however it first evolved, practically would have guaranteed the need for cephalopod DNA to remain fairly stable over millennia. The proteins used for editing RNA would, after all, need to recognize various complexes of RNA, says paper co-author Joshua Rosenthal, a cephalopod neurobiologist at the Marine Biological Laboratory. Hence, the DNA coding for the RNA that generates those particular proteins would have to stay consistent. In other words, in an animal reliant on RNA-editing for survival, any mutations that interfered with that process would probably not have survived into the next generation. “If a squid and octopus want to edit a base, they must preserve the underlying RNA structure,” Rosenthal says, “This means that the RNA structure can’t evolve. If it collects mutations as a result of DNA mutations, it would no longer be recognized by the editing enzymes. We normally think of mutations as the currency of evolution. But in this case their accumulation is suppressed.”
Octopuses, squid, and cuttlefish often do not follow the genetic instructions in their DNA to the letter. Instead, they use enzymes to pluck out specific adenosine RNA bases (some of As, out of the As, Ts, Gs, and Us of RNA) that codes for proteins and replace them with a different base, called Inosine. This process—called "RNA editing"—is rarely used to recode proteins in most animals, but octopuses and their kin edit RNA base pairs in over half of their transcribed genes. When researchers did experiments to quantify and characterize the extent of this RNA editing across cephalopod species, they found evidence that this genetic strategy has profoundly constrained evolution of the cephalopod genome. The study appears in Cell on April 6.
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Hanslune
Your article does a fantastic job of comparing one species to another with a very basic stick chart. What is doesn't do is establish beyond a reasonable doubt, that the concept of DNA originated on earth. In fact, your article does not even broach the subject.
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
Recently a name has been applied to another species of mankind, Homo Capensis, who live among us, and are actually the "They Live" of the movie of the same name.
Maybe, not so true.
it could just as easily have originated here and we have no evidence of DNA anywhere else, so...
Obviously.
If DNA didn't originate here, it had to originate somewhere, didn't it?
Panspermia (from Ancient Greek πᾶν (pan) 'all ', and σπέρμα (sperma) 'seed') is the hypothesis, first proposed in the 5th century BC by the Greek philosopher Anaxagoras, that life exists throughout the Universe, distributed by space dust,[1] meteoroids,[2] asteroids, comets,[3] and planetoids,[4] as well as by spacecraft carrying unintended contamination by microorganisms.[5][6][7] Panspermia is a fringe theory with little support amongst mainstream scientists.[8] Critics argue that it does not answer the question of the origin of life but merely places it on another celestial body. It is also criticized because it cannot be tested experimentally.[9]
Well, the video has been taken down.
Anyway, Professor Gary Nolan of Stanford claims that “DNA doubles in complexity” roughly every 600 million years. If you keep deducing it's half-life to when it must have been created, it sits at roughly 9.5 billion years old. This is interesting, if true, obviously because it means DNA is 4 billion years older than Earth.
I cannot find any relevant papers, only him mentioning that he has discovered this. Can someone please verify this claim as true or false?
If it is true, maybe the ET's seeded Earth? Or possibly it was because of X,Y,Z, but the ET hypothesis shouldn't be ruled out IMO.
I found where he said it. In a documentary called Gods Among Us on Amazon Prime at the 1 hour and 18 minute mark. Sorry I am a year late giving you this information. Thanks for posting. Quite fascinating. I don't know what to make of it.
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Hanslune
Your article does a fantastic job of comparing one species to another with a very basic stick chart. What is doesn't do is establish beyond a reasonable doubt, that the concept of DNA originated on earth. In fact, your article does not even broach the subject.
Not established by your article.
Unfortunately for a great idea their DNA ties them to having evolved on Earth
Our last common ancestor with the octopus existed more than 500 million years ago.
That, is quite a leap of faith. But even at that, that, may not have originated on this planet. I do agree life does appear to originated in, Water. The where is the big question.
Certainly.
What you have failed to show is that its DNA is alien and from outside of earth?
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Hanslune
All I did was expose a door to other options open to thought. You find that offensive?
The descendants of Noah all spoke a single language. As they increased in number and began to spread eastward, they found a fertile area called Shinar and settled there. They decided to build a city with a tower that "reached to the heavens." They wanted the tower to be a proud monument to themselves and a symbol that would keep them united as a powerful people.
However, God was not so pleased. He came down and looked at the city and tower and said,
If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other. (NIV, Genesis 11:6-7)
So God made the people speak many different languages so they could not work together on building the city and tower. The He scattered the people around the world and the city was abandoned. The city was called "Babel" because God confused their languages.
5 Then [c]the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent[d] of the thoughts of his heart was only evil [e]continually. 6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
A language game (also called a cant, secret language, ludling, or argot) is a system of manipulating spoken words to render them incomprehensible to the untrained ear. Language games are used primarily by groups attempting to conceal their conversations from others. Some common examples are Pig Latin; the Gibberish family, prevalent in the United States and Sweden; and Verlan, spoken in France.
Language games are used primarily by groups attempting to conceal their conversations from others
Can you differentiate water on Mars, from water on earth? Or is, water, just water? What would make Martian water any different from Our Terrestrial water? Is there some chemical marker in the water? Apply the same logic to DNA.
originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Hanslune
Can you differentiate water on Mars, from water on earth? Or is, water, just water? What would make Martian water any different from Our Terrestrial water? Is there some chemical marker in the water? Apply the same logic to DNA.
Your answer to this please.
Accounts of beings, coming down from the heavens in what are described as powerful technological machines, that produce fear-inducing sound, while making the ground shake like a million Earthquakes, and spitting fire are descriptions that many of us would attribute to rocket or space shuttle launches and/or landings.
To us, this is nothing unusual, as we live in a modern-era where rocketry is a well-known subject.
However, if we were to travel back in time 2,000 or 3,000 years and witness the same thing, how would we react?
From Babylonian mythology we have the story of Etana, who flies on a giant eagle:
'One of the earliest preserved records of flight is in a Babylonian set of laws Halkatha, which contains the passage: "To operate a flying machine is a great privilege. Knowledge of flying is most ancient, a gift from the gods of old for saving lives". The Babylonian "Epic of Etana" describing his prehistoric flight is preserved for us in a fragmentary text and cuneiform dating back to a period between 3,000 and 2,400 B.C. (2).
From Greek mythology we have the story of Daedalus and Icarus:
In Metamorphoses, the Roman poet Ovid describes Daedalus as a highly skilled architect and the designer of the Cretan maze. On its completion, he became homesick, and fearing king Minos would prevent him returning, he decided to build a flying machine.
Extract from Metamorphosis: "The king may block my way by land or across the ocean, but the sky, surely, is open, and that is how we shall go.....With these words, he set his mind to sciences never explored before, and altered the laws of nature."