cancer cure

But for real this time. And I know this site has a history of people making claims and then nothing ever comes of it.
But this is not some fringe rumor.

www.sfgate.com...

The one-time treatment involves collecting the patient’s own T cells, white blood cells key to the immune system, and genetically changing them in the lab so that they will find and attack cancer cells. The modified cells are given back to the patient through IV.

Over time, researchers said, the modified cells evolved, many turning into “helper” cells that work with the cancer-killing cells. Helper cells eventually became dominant in both patients.

Study author J. Joseph Melenhorst said they were able to isolate and analyze the cells using new technologies, which gave them “very good insight” into how they persisted in the patients’ bodies.

Dr. Armin Ghobadi of Washington University in St. Louis, an expert in gene and cellular immunotherapy for cancer, called the findings “incredible.” Though the word “cure” is rarely used in cancer, he said it appears these patients were “most likely” cured.

It took over 10 years but it seems to have worked.

What say you ats are we going to see a real cancer cure in our lifetimes??

a reply to: scraedtosleep

The one-time treatment involves collecting the patient’s own T cells, white blood cells key to the immune system, and genetically changing them in the lab so that they will find and attack cancer cells. The modified cells are given back to the patient through IV.

This seems to be an affront to Gods natural creation so I'll have none of it , Genetic Manipulation is a sin .

If it is Gods will for Cancer to ravage your Body then so be it , Science is not God .

And Of course I'm kidding , God gave us minds to use and We should use any and all means at our disposal to get rid of Cancer.

I'll give this info to my doctor at the university hospital since he too works in the lab.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

The tech has been around for awhile now, but it's quite expensive. Therapy is done in a series of treatments, and the cost is around $40K per treatment. Pretty sure Medicare doesn't cover it....

Our engineered cell therapies express either a chimeric antigen receptor (CAR) or a T cell receptor (TCR), depending on the type of cancer. This dual platform has the potential to transform cancer treatment by addressing the goal of treating both hematological cancers and solid tumors.

www.kitepharma.com...

There are Bio-techs companies out there working on making the tech more affordable and available.

Our research and development efforts are focused on engineered allogeneic cell therapies with a scalable technology platform to increase therapeutic options and availability for patients.

www.appiabio.com...

a reply to: scraedtosleep

Wouldn't it be crazy if President Joe Biden really could take credit for this Cancer Cure breakthrough?

I'm sure it's no coincidence that TODAY, he officially took control of the "Cancer Moonshot" initiative once again.

See it all here: www.cancer.gov...

I know about this treatment since I've searched around for my mother's cancer. It's very expensive and I asked the doctor who recommended it about the success rates. For my mother at 76 years old he gave about 30% chance to succeed. We didn't decide yet since we are on a different treatment right now but if you ask me it should be more effective.
I would appreciate some feedback from people who used it.

a reply to: WhiteHat

You might be able to hook up your mom in some clinical trial program. I know Appia Bio is expecting to start trials sometime in the near future. I'm sure there are other Bio-techs out there working on cancer CAR-T Therapies.

www.clinicalconnection.com...

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Wow thanks for the extra information.

a reply to: carewemust

well bidon can't do anything except give funding really. Same as any potus. So I would never give a potus credit for such things.

I applaud the medical scientist.

But if biden is directing people to fund these things then that is a good thing, is it not?

a reply to: WhiteHat

Two people in the article I posted has 100% effectiveness.
But I've never heard of this treatment till today.

What treatment is your mother on and is it working?

a reply to: Sookiechacha

I knew someone on ats would be on top of this. Thanks

Sounds like a good treatment may be in the making. BUT....I would rather not get cancer in the first place, that is why I spend so much time researching food chemistry and the chemistry of some of the more common chemistries used on food production.

Lowering the risk to one fifth would take out most of the cancer incidents. It is much better to not get cancer than to get it and pay megabucks to get rid of it or to go through hell from the radiation and chemotherapy.

one study among many

Ivermectin has powerful antitumor effects, including the inhibition of proliferation, metastasis, and angiogenic activity, in a variety of cancer cells. This may be related to the regulation of multiple signaling pathways by ivermectin through PAK1 kinase. On the other hand, ivermectin promotes programmed cancer cell death, including apoptosis, autophagy and pyroptosis. Ivermectin induces apoptosis and autophagy is mutually regulated. Interestingly, ivermectin can also inhibit tumor stem cells and reverse multidrug resistance and exerts the optimal effect when used in combination with other chemotherapy drugs.

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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: scraedtosleep

The tech has been around for awhile now, but it's quite expensive. Therapy is done in a series of treatments, and the cost is around $40K per treatment. Pretty sure Medicare doesn't cover it....

It should be free to all, but I'm sure it'll be, at least initially, monopolized like everything else.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

I think it depends on who is making the treatment. I've seen clinics in Europe, Canada, Japan and US and it seems they all have slightly different techniques but the principle is the same. It's also dependable on the overall immunity condition of the patient.
My mother has colorectal cancer and after much research (got some good hints also from ATS in another thread I made specially for this) we decided that the best way to approach this is a holistic approach. The treatment is DCA+ all the supplements they recommend ( DCA guide; a vegetarian diet + some clean fish, no diaries, no sugar, no white flour; heavy juicing plus japanese mushrooms powder ( maitake, reishi, turkey tail), detox and liver support supplements.

We are on the week 12 of treatment and we see improvements already. She was was in a bad shape with the tumor bleeding and blocking her bowel movement (stage 3 but no metasthasis) and our biggest concern was a blockage that could lead to surgery and bad complications. Now the tumor has shrunk about 40%, hardly any bleeding, daily bowel movements and almost normal life. Her markers are also going down. Next week we have programmed a full PET CT scan to confirm the progress.
The only other treatment we did were some Tesla coil treatment, 5 sessions, I imagine something similar with a Rife machine, there is a private clinic who does that and it was very helpful for reducing the bleeding. We have 5 more sessions to do and then decide if we go for the Immunotherapy mentioned above.

It's no cheap treatment as it's all done privately, and for me is a full time job (I quit my job to be with my mother) but we try to do our best. Chemotherapy would have her unnecessarily suffer awfull side effects and maybe even kill her sooner. Hopefully we can help her live a little longer and make her life as easier as we can.

Edit: I forgot to mention, we did ozon therapy too at the beginning, we may start again soon as I hear only good things about it.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

Yes a good thing. And the top people always take the credit for what worker bees actually accomplish.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: WhiteHat

You might be able to hook up your mom in some clinical trial program. I know Appia Bio is expecting to start trials sometime in the near future. I'm sure there are other Bio-techs out there working on cancer CAR-T Therapies.

www.clinicalconnection.com...

Thanks, I'm always looking into that too but so far didn't find much.

I think we have been thrown another distraction, right when the cancer rate has sored!

Why would they ever cut their profits?

originally posted by: scraedtosleep

The one-time treatment involves collecting the patient’s own T cells, white blood cells key to the immune system, and genetically changing them in the lab so that they will find and attack cancer cells. The modified cells are given back to the patient through IV.

Why would they need to genetically alter T-cells?

There's an easier way. There are already people out there with natural immunity to various types of cancer. All one would need to do is to take a sample of memory t-cells from those with natural immunity to cancer and give them as a serum to a cancer patient. Once the serum is injected, the person with cancer would acquire the memory t-cells that fight cancer and those cells would teach their cells.

Why genetically alter someone when it isn't necessary? There's a purely NATURAL way to do it without genetic alteration.

originally posted by: MapMistress
All one would need to do is to take a sample of memory t-cells from those with natural immunity to cancer and give them as a serum to a cancer patient. Once the serum is injected, the person with cancer would acquire the memory t-cells that fight cancer and those cells would teach their cells.

Doesn't work that way. Person A's t cells would be flagged as foreign and they would be destroyed by person B's t cells before they could exchange data bases.

That is why you have to genetically alter a person's memory cells. You are not altering that person's DNA, you are altering the data base that is used to identify pathogens and cancer but it is still their's so they won't be knocked out by their own t cells.

If it were as easy as you postulated, people would be doing it on the down low more than abortions.