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originally posted by: pureclover
a reply to: WanderingMrM
Makes perfect sense.
I see the progress of civilization that you describe is like when people get tired of each other, but are made to stay together and start a fight. The most important part of the fight is to listen to the person and change behaviour for the better. So we're pretty much reaching the boiling point.
AC and tzar sound like they will have the same idea on global focus when we need to work together without functioning economies (that are not doing well), but represent different things. e.g. one represents physical values (infrastructure/future quality of life), another may represent it as something that comes from within individuals.
originally posted by: WanderingMrM
Tzar Log; Entry #25 - July 2022
So there have been many messengers of the Creator/Creation, many of whom have been either interpreted as prophets, messengers and even son of God.
From what I have been observing, the things that the Tzar has been experiencing, I suspect that he might be a messenger or maybe the last messenger. Yes I know it is about to piss off many Jews, Christians, Catholics or Muslims, however I suspect it could be true.
The Tzar has experienced revelations from many religions of the world, some of which have definitely rang true to be of those groups.
Which is why I suspect the Tzar to be the last messenger and it is why he will be needed to unite most of those on the side of Creation to follow the Creator in the time of need when humanity will need it most.
Sounds odd and a bit extreme, but I am possibly starting to understand the bigger picture.
1) John's epistle never said anything about subscribing to a belief in Jesus' death and purported resurrection, it says that whoever rejects that Jesus Christ incarnated into the physical world and that he came from God is an antichrist. Muslims acknowledge Jesus' existence and authority, they only reject that he experienced death and that he literally went up into the clouds.
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: WanderingMrM
Your posts just keep proving how your Tzar is lining up with the ant-Christ. 1) If your Tzar is leaning Muslim, then he doesn't believe that Christ is who God said he was, according to the Bible, making him an anti-Christ himself. 2) According to John 1, Jesus IS our Creator, so your Tzar won't be leading humanity towards Him if he's leaning Muslim. 3) So, how do you explain the contradiction?
What's the point of citing scripture when you haven't even begun to attempt to understand it, let alone indicating any familiarity with etymology and philology?
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: hjesterium
Sorry, but now you're ignoring Colossians 1:15-17.
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: WanderingMrM
Your posts just keep proving how your Tzar is lining up with the ant-Christ. If your Tzar is leaning Muslim, then he doesn't believe that Christ is who God said he was, according to the Bible, making him an anti-Christ himself. According to John 1, Jesus IS our Creator, so your Tzar won't be leading humanity towards Him if he's leaning Muslim. So, how do you explain the contradiction?
originally posted by: WanderingMrM
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: WanderingMrM
Your posts just keep proving how your Tzar is lining up with the ant-Christ. If your Tzar is leaning Muslim, then he doesn't believe that Christ is who God said he was, according to the Bible, making him an anti-Christ himself. According to John 1, Jesus IS our Creator, so your Tzar won't be leading humanity towards Him if he's leaning Muslim. So, how do you explain the contradiction?
I've been shown the antichrist and the spirit of it, and I will say onto you that humanity is not ready for the big surprise of who it will be and what religion he will preach...
originally posted by: ElGoobero
possibly relevant Bible verse
Isaiah 41:25
"I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon mortar, and as the potter treadeth clay." (King James Bible)
I can't quite figure this, as Jesus wasn't known for spending any time up North of anything?
so maybe about someone else?
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: hjesterium
Clearly you spend more time studying philosophy than the Bible and are clueless about how the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are related, much less anything else the Bible speaks of.
originally posted by: Deetermined
The Bible makes it clear that the anti-Christ will come across to the people of the world as being the total opposite of what he truly is. That's how he will deceive the masses before he reveals his true nature. He will come across as a savior of sorts before his evil desires take over.
You're seriously going to base your viewpoint and way of life on a SINGLE instance of the word "philosophy" (Greek philosophias) in the entirety of the Bible? And with such a blatant disregard for context (Jewish philosophy of circumcision). Who is so dense? Besides, Paul's authorship of the letter to Colossians is, in fact, widely disputed.
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: hjesterium
If you want to combine history and philosophy to come up with your own conclusions on what our future holds, more power to you. I personally choose to follow the Bible and believe what Colossians 2:8 says.