Comply Or Die - Unvaxxed Boston Hospital Patient Denied Heart Transplant

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

This is illegal, because there is no vaccination mandate in effect.

Edit.. on second thought, if this is a private hospital, they can turn away anyone they want to... Can't they?

Boston's Brigham and Women's Hospital where he's at receives government funding. I haven't done the research, but I believe all hospitals that do organ transplants receive government funding. There are mighty few 'private' hospitals left, as that goes against the socialized medicine plan.

a reply to: chr0naut

What percentage of unvaccinated people have come out of heart surgery okay, over the past year?

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

This is illegal, because there is no vaccination mandate in effect.

Edit.. on second thought, if this is a private hospital, they can turn away anyone they want to... Can't they?

Boston's Brigham and Women's Hospital where he's at receives government funding. I haven't done the research, but I believe all hospitals that do organ transplants receive government funding. There are mighty few 'private' hospitals left, as that goes against the socialized medicine plan.

That would mean the hospital must comply with the laws of the land, just like all the rest of us have to do!

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: elementalgrove

99% recovery rate for immunocompromised people?

Note the Ivermectin/HCQ reference, viable therapeutics are already here.

The vaxxines are killing people, why would someone getting a heart transplant risk myocarditis from an experimental drug with no long term side effects?

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

That is what this is about.

COVID-19 kills people.

At present, the best defense against COVID-19 in terms of infectious spread, in terms of severity of symptoms, and potential fatal outcome, is the vaccine.

An infected transplant patient would infect the surgeons who perform surgery on the patients in the most at-risk demographic for COVID-19. It would lead almost surely to more deaths if they operated and were infected. The doctors and surgeons have to make a judgement call of the risk. One life, or many.

Additionally, if the patient caught COVID-19 unvaccinated, either before or after surgery, it is likely to be fatal in their condition.

Similarly, transplant surgery requires immune system suppressants, to prevent rejection of the transplant. If one did not have at least some sort of immune reaction against COVID-19 prior to the surgery, they would be unlikely to survive a bout while in recovery, even if the vaccine was administered at the time of surgery, it would have no effect due to the immune system supressants.

The decision to remain unvaccinated prior to such surgery is the death sentence.

No its not. Stop lying. The vaccine has killed countless people and makes you more likely to get the virus and die from it. It's over.

a reply to: zosimov

Wow. Truly maddening.

Death Panels !!

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

That is what this is about.

COVID-19 kills people.

At present, the best defense against COVID-19 in terms of infectious spread, in terms of severity of symptoms, and potential fatal outcome, is the vaccine.

An infected transplant patient would infect the surgeons who perform surgery on the patients in the most at-risk demographic for COVID-19. It would lead almost surely to more deaths if they operated and were infected. The doctors and surgeons have to make a judgement call of the risk. One life, or many.

Additionally, if the patient caught COVID-19 unvaccinated, either before or after surgery, it is likely to be fatal in their condition.

Similarly, transplant surgery requires immune system suppressants, to prevent rejection of the transplant. If one did not have at least some sort of immune reaction against COVID-19 prior to the surgery, they would be unlikely to survive a bout while in recovery, even if the vaccine was administered at the time of surgery, it would have no effect due to the immune system supressants.

The decision to remain unvaccinated prior to such surgery is the death sentence.

Your whole post makes no sense. I'm pretty sure he's in isolation, and even surer he would be tested for covid before surgery, so why give a vaccine that is known to cause heart problems? The guy's heart barely functions, so any side effect is a death sentence.
Shouldn't they give him a HEALTHY heart, then worry about vaccination? All the doctors and nurses being triple vaccinated means they're safe, right?

a reply to: chr0naut

Surely you are not that mentally deficient!
How much are they paying you man???

a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

The lack of medical ethics is appalling. People should lose their jobs over this.



a reply to: chr0naut

The vaccine doesn't work, as evidenced by the startling number of people who got stuck and still got the virus.

a reply to: elementalgrove

If he's vaccinated before his new heart a possible side effect would not occur to his new heart right? I would imagine he would be watched closely for any side effect as well.

People still die who've taken Ivermectin and HCQ. Would you like links to examples.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: elementalgrove

If he's vaccinated before his new heart a possible side effect would not occur to his new heart right? I would imagine he would be watched closely for any side effect as well.

People still die who've taken Ivermectin and HCQ. Would you like links to examples.

Considering the effects of the vaxxine are systemic, it could very easily effect the new heart.

I would like to see your examples, while you are at it, find me some animal studies that show the safety and efficacy of the mRNA jab you are promoting.

a reply to: chr0naut

An infected transplant patient would infect the surgeons who perform surgery on the patients in the most at-risk demographic for COVID-19. It would lead almost surely to more deaths if they operated and were infected. The doctors and surgeons have to make a judgement call of the risk. One life, or many.

Additionally, if the patient caught COVID-19 unvaccinated, either before or after surgery, it is likely to be fatal in their condition.

If fear of contracting an infection resulting from caring for a patient that is infected, is a reason for withholding treatment, then they need to shut down every hospital and medical care facility in America.

Hospitals are the greatest place on the planet to get an infection.

Nosocomial bloodstream infections are a leading cause of death in the United States.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...


Since I am willing to bet they test all patients before surgery, it is a bit ridiculous to fear obtaining an infection the patient does not have. Also, being vaccinated does not guarantee the patient will not contract COVID.

It is quite clear at this point that the vaccine does not work as they hoped. The more they continue to beat that dead horse, the more credibility they lose. Though I don't think they will rank very high in trust for a long time to come.

a reply to: elementalgrove

So covid also has the possibilities of systemic issues. So you think they should not have the transplant at all? Considering the risks of covid on an immunocompromised person? It's much higher risk than a healthy person.

a reply to: frogs453

What part about the man doesn't want the experimental gene therapy is so hard for people to understand? That should really be the end of that discussion.

a reply to: zosimov

If he doesn't want it fine. If it's a requirement along with other vaccinations, the flu shot and any other thing required then that's his choice.


ETA: I know when my friend finally got his kidney transplant right before covid there were a ton of hoops to jump through. He didn't complain and did everything necessary to get that new kidney. It was delayed once when certain numbers were not at the level they needed to be. Even then he was wearing a mask to work to avoid illness.

originally posted by: VierEyes
a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

The lack of medical ethics is appalling. People should lose their jobs over this.

 

a reply to: chr0naut

The vaccine doesn't work, as evidenced by the startling number of people who got stuck and still got the virus.

Ethics left medicine a long time ago, if it was ever present in the first place.

This movie told more truth than most people want to know.

This is what happens when Medical People become Politically Emboldened by MSM.

Laws be Damned and ethics cast away !!! 💎🕳️

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: elementalgrove

So covid also has the possibilities of systemic issues. So you think they should not have the transplant at all? Considering the risks of covid on an immunocompromised person? It's much higher risk than a healthy person.

I do not think anyone should take one of these experimental drugs at all.

Covid has gone through variants and at this point it is nothing but a cold.

Got those animal studies?

Sadly with this person conditions he will have more chances of dying from the side effects of the jab that from the transplant.

People in our nation are playing god and they are nothing but crappy political tools by the democrats in power.

Karma will circle around on them.