They called us Covid conspiracy theorists...

"Difference between Covid conspiracy and acknowledged fact is about 6 months." -Tomb of the Unknown Tweeter

For the past two years, many of us who have been doing our own research and also have a healthy awareness of the the misdeeds of government past, have been correctly calling many Covid issues well in advance of the mainstream media and the supposed "experts" at the CDC. If I (like others), was able to figure out these next steps or issues surrounding Covid using publiclly available data, and published studies before and during Covid, PHD
experts in these leading organizations should have been able to too. The fact that they have pushed false narratives, inaccurate data, and failed policies while censoring credible counterpoints and evidence, only leads me to suspect they really do have ulterior motives and are gaslighting us.

How many doctors or leaders have signed on to these problematic narratives, often quite publicly? How many are pushing endless lockdowns, mask mandates, and vaccine mandates? How many including Fauci pushed continuing school shut downs throughout 2021 when the evidence was clear that kids were very low risk and k-12 schools weren't a primary vector of spread, AND, kids' education and emotional well-being was being severely affected? How many are still pushing vaccines for little children, when less than 700 children have died in the US from covid, mostly those with severe comorbidities? How many would gleefully fire and destroy the careers of millions of people who don't want to get vaccinated, many of whom have naturally-acquired immunity? How many of them denied the existence of this group of people with natural immunity until literally the last few months? How many medical leaders, social media platforms, and politicians suppressed any potential cures that were generic, existing, time tested, and not lucrative for Big Pharma and control?

Leaders such as Fauci and public health organizations such as the CDC have dealt a horrible blow to the credibility of the the medical profession and relevant organizations. They can only blame themselves.

I literally had a woman online with a PHD in molecular biology recently tell me that "she knew the science and natural immunity isn't legitimate," one month before these recent studies showing previous infection likely imbued superior immunity to vaccination for Delta. LOL! What is wrong with these people? I actually am a strong supporter of real scientific inquiry, so I find these cynical hacks to be disturbing.

I did not enter 2020 being extremely skeptical of the mainstream medical establishment, nor such organizations as the WHO or CDC. I did know about the dangers of Big Pharma. As of today, my perspective has changed deeply.

a reply to: Madviking

At this point, instead of calling it conspiracy theories they should just say "spoiler alert".

The thing is those on the left will change the narrative and act like all this information is new. More and more are waking up. However, they are just repeating stuff we said two years ago.

Very few of them will just state they were wrong....

a reply to: Madviking

Revelation 9:10, KJV: "And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months."

Just about the right time frame, I think.

a reply to: Edumakated

Right, it's a big blow to their worldview and internalized narratives to admit the whole structure wasn't well supported.

At this point, I'd be willing to accept a tacit admission by leadership dropping so many of the failed policies, so we can attempt to just move on.

Quite a few of my friends have privately stated skepticism or concern with the prevailing narratives, so I suspect that more people are aware than are stating it publicly.

a reply to: Edumakated

At this point, instead of calling it conspiracy theories they should just say "spoiler alert".

Well, the problem is there are still a good vocal lot who give fodder to the people who believe in every institution.

For example, there were many early on who were saying it was absolutely nothing, or were picking their words poorly. I know it sounds nitpicky but it was damaging.

That said, those who have authority have screwed the pooch every which direction on this, and they ultimately carry the burden of all responsibility. They didn't do anything right on all of this. I don't think we've really even seen the lions share of ramifications for this yet.

The scariest part after the societal and economic fallout to me is what happens if a truly terrible contagion comes in the near future. People are going to be immediately skeptical, and I can't blame them.

These people who are pushing fear do not want to hear anything that goes against their beliefs or the desire of what they are trying to accomplish...creating fear to control the masses is their objective. Or in the case of the media, making people fear so they watch their news.

This whole pandemic is a script written by experts of deception, authors who have not figured out that people have access to real evidence, which they discount as conspiracies or misinformation since it does not parrot what they say.

We live in a world where deceit is more believed than the whole truth. I guess we were warned but most people ignored the warnings of thousands of years ago. I guess they had some real good scam artists back then too.

originally posted by: Madviking
a reply to: Edumakated

Right, it's a big blow to their worldview and internalized narratives to admit the whole structure wasn't well supported.

At this point, I'd be willing to accept a tacit admission by leadership dropping so many of the failed policies, so we can attempt to just move on.

Quite a few of my friends have privately stated skepticism or concern with the prevailing narratives, so I suspect that more people are aware than are stating it publicly.

Yeah. I live in a very liberal area. Many are starting to question what they've been told. They have to be careful though as the left freaks out anytime questions the narrative. Many of them will have a mental breakdown when they realize they've been lied to...

originally posted by: rickymouse
These people who are pushing fear do not want to hear anything that goes against their beliefs or the desire of what they are trying to accomplish...creating fear to control the masses is their objective. Or in the case of the media, making people fear so they watch their news.

This whole pandemic is a script written by experts of deception, authors who have not figured out that people have access to real evidence, which they discount as conspiracies or misinformation since it does not parrot what they say.

We live in a world where deceit is more believed than the whole truth. I guess we were warned but most people ignored the warnings of thousands of years ago. I guess they had some real good scam artists back then too.

I agree. I'm convinced that they are taking advantage of the pandemic, providing warped narratives, and instituting destructive policies in order to cease power. In my view, the corporate media is largely a comms arm of these larger power alliances. They aren't merely self-interested businesses that just want viewership.

I've mentioned this before, they are going to drug us all up. With what, don't know yet, but the question is why those in power want to do it. What the hell are they going to achieve?

For me, I 'll find an island here and live off the sea. Papers for this and papers for that, that is fk Nazis shi%t.

Just when it seems the public is letting their guard down and starting to get back to "normal" -- whatever that is these days -- up pops Fauci and his fear mongering propaganda BS and as if on cue, the MSM kicks the can of fear down the road once again. For them, it is about ratings (FEAR/HATE = RATINGS)

Sadly, there are many naive and gullible people who do not question what they are being told, despite the contradictory, flip flopping dis-information by the so-called "experts"



Question everything
Trust no one

You know one of the biggest lies they have told us and keep telling us is that this is a New "NOVEL" virus that they dont know anything about... And it took them forever to isolate it, if you believe they have.

How can it be "NOVEL" if they created it in a lab?

They have to know every single thing there is to know about a virus they created in a lab.

originally posted by: musicismagic
I've mentioned this before, they are going to drug us all up. With what, don't know yet, but the question is why those in power want to do it. What the hell are they going to achieve?

For me, I 'll find an island here and live off the sea. Papers for this and papers for that, that is fk Nazis shi%t.

Well they drug you up with all the tv and news and fear and propaganda and trying to pay your rent

I’m not a conspiracy theorist, more of a spoiler alerter

originally posted by: Thenail

originally posted by: musicismagic
I've mentioned this before, they are going to drug us all up. With what, don't know yet, but the question is why those in power want to do it. What the hell are they going to achieve?

For me, I 'll find an island here and live off the sea. Papers for this and papers for that, that is fk Nazis shi%t.

Well they drug you up with all the tv and news and fear and propaganda and trying to pay your rent

What's pathetic is that you can tell this to most people and it'll roll right off 'em ... like water from a duck's ass.

I feel it’s damaged the entire medical fields integrity. I no longer trust they will have my best interest in mind if I walk into a hospital, so I’ll do my best to stay away from those greedy bastards.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
I feel it’s damaged the entire medical fields integrity. I no longer trust they will have my best interest in mind if I walk into a hospital, so I’ll do my best to stay away from those greedy bastards.

I know it has for me.

Last week I had an appointment with my doctor. During admissions, the questionnaire was heavy on vaccination status and COVID symptoms and made me very wary. After I got into the exam room, the one I use every time with my doctor, I began to realize that there was no other exit than the door I came in. Then I noticed that nothing in the room could be used as a defensive weapon. I began to think about how I could take down the doctor and escape the building by tackling him, but he is short and well built, he could easily take me down. All these thoughts and I really like my doctor, but these types of thoughts cropped up during my office visit. I never suspected before that my doctor could be in lock step with the agenda, but I have given it more consideration lately.

originally posted by: Madviking

originally posted by: rickymouse
These people who are pushing fear do not want to hear anything that goes against their beliefs or the desire of what they are trying to accomplish...creating fear to control the masses is their objective. Or in the case of the media, making people fear so they watch their news.

This whole pandemic is a script written by experts of deception, authors who have not figured out that people have access to real evidence, which they discount as conspiracies or misinformation since it does not parrot what they say.

We live in a world where deceit is more believed than the whole truth. I guess we were warned but most people ignored the warnings of thousands of years ago. I guess they had some real good scam artists back then too.

I agree. I'm convinced that they are taking advantage of the pandemic, providing warped narratives, and instituting destructive policies in order to cease power. In my view, the corporate media is largely a comms arm of these larger power alliances. They aren't merely self-interested businesses that just want viewership.

It is not the first time that alchemists have tried to seize power in the world. It has been done many times. It did not end good, Societies killed all of the medicine men and burned herbalists at the stake calling them witches. There were good so called witches too, and they were the first to go because they did not try to deceive those who arrested them. I worry a little about the corrupt people in medicine causing some people to irradicate good and experienced medical people from this earth because they were brainwashed to give out medicines that were touted by industry to help but in essence the meds side effects were worse than the condition they were treating. Doctors do not have the time or resources to test all the meds to find the side effects and some pharmaceudical companies advertise directly to the public and convince people to ask for newly released meds that they profit off of extensively. I bet the doctors really dislike that, there is no evidence yet to show long term side effects when they are new meds.

I am not against the medical industry, I am against the deception of people pushed by some in the medical industry. Initial research on a med does not expose all side effects and often those side effects are discounted as not connected for years.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
I feel it’s damaged the entire medical fields integrity. I no longer trust they will have my best interest in mind if I walk into a hospital, so I’ll do my best to stay away from those greedy bastards.

It has. Prestigious organizations from the WHO and CDC to the Lancet abused their reputation as august scientific and public health insitutions to push the Covid narratives. They expended all their social and political capital, and went all in.

Just like, the media has done so too in recent years. Then, they claim to not understand why people don't trust them.. Mmmm hmmmm.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Madviking
a reply to: Edumakated

Right, it's a big blow to their worldview and internalized narratives to admit the whole structure wasn't well supported.

At this point, I'd be willing to accept a tacit admission by leadership dropping so many of the failed policies, so we can attempt to just move on.

Quite a few of my friends have privately stated skepticism or concern with the prevailing narratives, so I suspect that more people are aware than are stating it publicly.

Yeah. I live in a very liberal area. Many are starting to question what they've been told. They have to be careful though as the left freaks out anytime questions the narrative. Many of them will have a mental breakdown when they realize they've been lied to...

Right, this is the main issue. People will question it privately, but not say a word publicly due to cancellation and attacks on them as "conspiracy theorists." For people in the professions, it is dangerous, which doesn't speak well of the state of debate.

a reply to: Madviking

My childrens' pediatrician was excoriated on the local facebook / social media groups because she dared publicly say that masking children was ineffective and not good (concerned about the mental effects of constant masking of young children in school). It was crazy to see all these Karens attacking her and trying to hurt the business she built her. Nothing you can say to many of these people will get them to just chill out and hear other view points.